Manuals to be killed off in SA

[Divio]

You Done?

 

[ChefDJ]

:fencelook:

Now now, children, play nicely

 

[RAArmstrong]

Clap

:fencelook:

 

[ChefDJ]

Rob, we may need to break out the forum riot control team for this.

 

[CocoPops]

Long live the Manual.

Porsche - you have my vote.

 

[FiRi@Rennzport]

You Done?

Depends....you still breathing???

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[MaX]

The sad truth, for every 1 "die-heart" manual normally aspirated fanatic they lose with this approach, they gain 1000 millennials... In the end BMW is running a business and bottom line talks and BS walks.

20 years from now they will be producing 1 speed electric cars and the millennials will be on this here forum complaining about how BMW is losing "die-heart" turbo auto fanatics...

 

[Straight six]

:biglol::biglol::biglol:

True Max

If you have you E36,E46\92M in manual ....Keep it till forever Amen!!!!

 

[Kimeran]

When I first drove the F82 M4 (in DCT form), I felt that you can't drive this car hard if it was a manual... The back of the car was too light, it had a lot of low end torque, both meant it was all over the road.
Now you try keeping that car on the road with only one hand on the steering wheel and you're asking for a major accident.

Since then I've spent a lot more time behind the wheel of that car, and now I wish it was a manual :smashScreen:
I've gotten used to the car and it has now become boring for me to click a paddle and proceed. But that's just me.

After driving the DCT, I completely understand why everyone goes for the DCT, not me though.... MANUAL FTW!

 

[pXius]

I'm sort of surprised considering we're one of the bigger M markets.

I think the fact that we're not allowed to track the cars (not that we have many to choose from to begin with) is partly to blame.

We're pretty much not allowed to use the cars for what they were made, nor do we have the space to use them properly compared to Europe, which is littered with tracks.

 

[CocoPops]

I'm sort of surprised considering we're one of the bigger M markets.

I think the fact that we're not allowed to track the cars (not that we have many to choose from to begin with) is partly to blame.

We're pretty much not allowed to use the cars for what they were made, nor do we have the space to use them properly compared to Europe, which is littered with tracks.

This is across all brands and all markets. It is exceptionally hard for manufacturers to police the extent of abuse on track (they are not race cars). If they allow track days, and a guy goes out and does 100 laps on slicks or enters the car into a racing series, and over stresses the mechanical components, they will have no recourse as we as consumers will be the first to point out that they have no track exclusions.

Many manufacturers turn a blind eye to track days, knowing that the onus remains on the owner to be sensible and not go crazy.

 

[pXius]

I'm sort of surprised considering we're one of the bigger M markets.

I think the fact that we're not allowed to track the cars (not that we have many to choose from to begin with) is partly to blame.

We're pretty much not allowed to use the cars for what they were made, nor do we have the space to use them properly compared to Europe, which is littered with tracks.

This is across all brands and all markets. It is exceptionally hard for manufacturers to police the extent of abuse on track (they are not race cars). If they allow track days, and a guy goes out and does 100 laps on slicks or enters the car into a racing series, and over stresses the mechanical components, they will have no recourse as we as consumers will be the first to point out that they have no track exclusions.

Many manufacturers turn a blind eye to track days, knowing that the onus remains on the owner to be sensible and not go crazy.

I agree with regards to them not being race cars, but the're definitely made to go sideways which is something to be kept off public roads.

I feel like there must be an alternative way to protect both BMW as a business and the sideways consumer. Like a more expensive warranty for people who track more than once or twice a year. It's just an off the top of my head idea, but I'm sure there's a means where everyone could be happy.

I guess it's just another step towards the future of autonomous driving.

 

[325iSmk2]

Many manufacturers turn a blind eye to track days, knowing that the onus remains on the owner to be sensible and not go crazy.

Nail on the head. The exclusion is there to cover them from people who would finance a season of racing via Motorplan, however a causal Joe tracking his M a few times a year is not a problem. I've never had an issue, and SAs I've dealt with always knew that I tracked the car now and then.