M50 manifold installation complete

SlowMo

Active member
Just thought I should share my experience...

Got my manifold from one of the forum members, kabal, thanks mate. It was in decent condition, could see it came off a motor that had severely over heated, but apart from some cosmetic damage, it was fine.

Got the manifold cleaned up, got myself 6 new gasket seals from BMW, some bits and pieces for the vacuum rerouting and off I went.

Getting the manifold off was not too bad, the 7th nut was a real PITA and you have to be very careful not to drop it in the engine bay. The fuel rail also needed some sweet talking to come off. Once those were off the fun began...

After a few attempts I managed to fabricate the single hose that was the vacuum source for the idle valve and the other roundish thing, not sure what its called :) used about 90cm of heater hose, some plastic elbows and a whole bunch of clamps :) I also used a t-piece to join the other small vac hoses, and they all fitted to the M50 manifold nicely.

I also had to modify the IAT sensor and again, with some sweet talking and some ky jelly it went into the stock IAT location on the M50 manifold. I toyed with the idea of fitting it to the intake boot but I didn't like this idea, wanted it to look like it came from the factory...and I think I managed to achieve that.

getting the manifold back on was also a bit painfull, but nothing some flowery language cant help with :) Once again, that 7th nut was a real PITA when re-fitting.

The throttle body puzzle was solved by using 2 OEM gaskets, one cut in half (very carefully), the 2 halves where placed into the M50 manifold and the TB itself, and the second whole gasket was sandwiched between these.

Refitted the fuel rail, this needed to be modified a little, one of the brackets have to be bent so that it can clear the mounting screw off the M50 manifold.

Fired her up, she sounded angry at first, but idle smoothed out and settled nicely.

Now the part I was waiting for, the test drive...

Initially I couldn't feel much of a difference. Felt like the engine management was having a conference and trying to decide where to idle and what to do during acceleration. She felt a tad jerky on the first couple of partial throttle pulls, but settled down very quickly. time for some WOT pulls :) :)

the torque loss is minimal, trust me. I found it really difficult to notice any lack of torque, but obviously there is a slight loss of torque lower down in the rev range (laws of physics demands it). But come 4500-5000rpm :) wow! she pulls like a train. The stock 328i pulls hard till about 5000rpm and then falls away quickly, and now around 4500-5000rpm the motor comes alive. The difference feels massive, pulls very hard to red line. My car has ASC as well, so there is a beautiful whistle noise from the traction control throttle body, the extra air flow causes this, its stunning :)

After a few days of hard driving she pulls even harder. The drive is factory smooth, idles like factory, everything is perfect.

I'm extremely happy with this mod, and enjoying this M52 even more now :)
 

SlowMo

Active member
I didnt take pics, my phone was having a mind of its own, but will try and take some of the finished product.

Liv I'm ready anytime man, I need to put her against a real world test, my @rse dyno hasn't been calibrated in a while!
 

Major

Active member
SlowMo said:
Liv I'm ready anytime man, I need to put her against a real world test, my @rse dyno hasn't been calibrated in a while!

If you've done this in the past few days, your ECU hasn't been calibrated either. :p The ECU will adapt to the increase in airflow over the course of a week or two of 'spirited' driving. :)
 

zaleonardz

Well-known member
Or pop past my place, I should be able to reset the adaption settings for you to clean out the "learnt behavior"
 

SlowMo

Active member
Guetzer said:
I really want to do this as well!! :p +- how much did everything cost?

The manifold is usually between R500 and R1000. Get one without the throttle body cos you don't need the TB. Also make sure you get the manifold with the plug-in nipples, otherwise you'll have to buy these from BMW seperately. I'm not sure about the price. Fortunately for me kabal supplied the manifold with these nipples.

You'll also need 2 TB gasket seals, maybe 1 depending on the condition of your current gasket, you could prolly reuse it but its not advisable.

you'll also probably need 6 gasket seals for the m50 manifold. I got these at around R500 from BMW.

The vac hoses, t-piece, fittings, clamps etc. came to about R300.

And then the labour, which could be anything from R1000 upwards I would imagine, cos it takes a lot of time. I did it myself obviously.

If you around jhb and wanna do it i'm more than willing to lend a hand.

zaleonardz said:
slowmo, i am in jhb, gateng

close to the glen

awesome man, check your PM ;)
 

bmw328

Member
MMM, If got a 328i and a extra 325i Manifold, You say there is a hudge diferance in power? What about your fuel econamy? Because if I remember correctly that was the reason the 325i was replaced by the 328I in the 1st place. 328i a lot more economical that the 325i Was?
 

SlowMo

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bmw328 said:
MMM, If got a 328i and a extra 325i Manifold, You say there is a hudge diferance in power? What about your fuel econamy? Because if I remember correctly that was the reason the 325i was replaced by the 328I in the 1st place. 328i a lot more economical that the 325i Was?

Big difference in power, around 5000rpm she leaps forward, where the standard 328i stops 'accelerating'. No difference to my fuel economy, not even slightly that I can notice.
 

bmw328

Member
SlowMo said:
bmw328 said:
MMM, If got a 328i and a extra 325i Manifold, You say there is a hudge diferance in power? What about your fuel econamy? Because if I remember correctly that was the reason the 325i was replaced by the 328I in the 1st place. 328i a lot more economical that the 325i Was?

Big difference in power, around 5000rpm she leaps forward, where the standard 328i stops 'accelerating'. No difference to my fuel economy, not even slightly that I can notice.
O, okay, so you will strongly recommend it? I have everything to change it, last had the 325I manifold on my 323i, the only change was that the 323i were weak a bottom with a bit of power at the top. Fuel economy were terrable on it with the 325I manifold. But I'll give it a try and post my outcome. What injectors did you use? the 325I injectors, or the 328I injectors? If I may ask, what is your fuel consumption on your car? L/100 ?
 

SlowMo

Active member
bmw328 said:
MMM, If got a 328i and a extra 325i Manifold, You say there is a hudge diferance in power? What about your fuel econamy? Because if I remember correctly that was the reason the 325i was replaced by the 328I in the 1st place. 328i a lot more economical that the 325i Was?

bmw328 said:
SlowMo said:
bmw328 said:
MMM, If got a 328i and a extra 325i Manifold, You say there is a hudge diferance in power? What about your fuel econamy? Because if I remember correctly that was the reason the 325i was replaced by the 328I in the 1st place. 328i a lot more economical that the 325i Was?

Big difference in power, around 5000rpm she leaps forward, where the standard 328i stops 'accelerating'. No difference to my fuel economy, not even slightly that I can notice.
O, okay, so you will strongly recommend it? I have everything to change it, last had the 325I manifold on my 323i, the only change was that the 323i were weak a bottom with a bit of power at the top. Fuel economy were terrable on it with the 325I manifold. But I'll give it a try and post my outcome. What injectors did you use? the 325I injectors, or the 328I injectors? If I may ask, what is your fuel consumption on your car? L/100 ?

yeah for sure. you will def lose a bit of bottom end torque, but thats something I'm prepared to live with, and its not a big loss anyway.

i only swapped in the manifold, everything else is 100% stock. Mixed driving I get 8.6L/100km.
 

bmw328

Member
Your consumption is exellent compared to min, If i'm driving nicelly I might het 10L/100KM. Yet again I'm using 325I injectors. Any tips on consumtion?
 

Major

Active member
So you ended up using the 328i throttle body? Would you be able to provide pics of your gasket setup? I'm finding it a bit difficult to visualise. :)
 

SlowMo

Active member
bmw328 said:
Your consumption is exellent compared to min, If i'm driving nicelly I might het 10L/100KM. Yet again I'm using 325I injectors. Any tips on consumtion?

surprising thing is if I don't drive like a maniac, I sometimes get 7.8L/100km to work and back, which does include about 20km highway cruising. And I manage to get 750kms out of a tank when I drive like that.

Don't know what tips, the consumption I get is quite a bit better than a buddy of mine who also has a 328i. The only difference from mine to his is I have ASC and a steel cylinder block, his is aluminium :) I should also mention that my car takes ZERO oil or water between services, and I do mean nothing, not even a drop of oil, and she is now on 276K kms. so maybe its just my car, i dunno...

Major said:
So you ended up using the 328i throttle body? Would you be able to provide pics of your gasket setup? I'm finding it a bit difficult to visualise. :)

well let me try and explain what i did. the stock 328i intake manifold around the TB is a flat surface, and the TB has a groove into which the gasket fits, and this mates to the flat surface of the intake manifold.

now the 325i intake manifold is not a flat surface around the TB, it also has a groove just like the 328i TB. so if you use just one gasket, it will not seal onto the 325i intake manifold cos there is no flat surface. so what we ideally want is a gasket that is TWICE the width of the stock gasket so that half goes into the 328i TB and the other half goes into the 325i intake manifold. I simulated this. what I did was I got another gasket, and cut this in half down the middle so I got 2 thinner gaskets. I placed one of these thinner gaskets into the 325i intake manifold and the other one into the 328i TB. then i used the second normal gasket sandwhiched between the 2. it seals perfectly.

If you still don't picture it, i may have to draw you a picture :)
 
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