///M Individual
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Came across these pics on Facebook:
Will probably get repaired and pop up at a dealer soon though.
Will probably get repaired and pop up at a dealer soon though.
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M4 CSL accident
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TurboLlew
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There was an M8 that was being repaired with far worse damage than this at Auto Body Specialists when my M5 was there. It was like a 1.3M bill and due to value of the car insurance opted to repair. It was like building a car from scratch.
This is 'light' by comparison. No doubt it will be repaired.
This is 'light' by comparison. No doubt it will be repaired.
TurboLlew
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On a CSL, repaired properly by BMW? Unlikely it will materially - they will tell you it's a rare car and 'priced in' or it has been well repaired. The person who tries to trade it in is the one who will be impacted (MAYBE). If I was the owner, I'd be pushing to write it off on the basis of diminished value to potentially push the bill into unfeasible territory - simply to avoid the inevitable hit as the one holding the baby...
Can't wait to see it at one of the 'usual suspect' dealers as a clean car in a rare colour for a premium with a long flowery story attached to it. Perhaps someone can find out and document the number of this one so future fanatics can watch out for it.
Can't wait to see it at one of the 'usual suspect' dealers as a clean car in a rare colour for a premium with a long flowery story attached to it. Perhaps someone can find out and document the number of this one so future fanatics can watch out for it.
TurboLlew
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just a thought: The only reason we have so many pics of this is because of probably the nature of the accident leading to severe injury, the car being rare enough that whoever could, took pics and the fact that it is a very traceable car (colour, spec, numbered) etc etc. BMW will also probably know exactly which car this is and it ended up at an ARC where they will have immediately suspended the plan pending repairs. Airbags blowing while you have connected drive active will also trigger this (if your car is out of service then you'd probably also get away somehow with this)
For your joe soap cars or cars involved in accidents where the owner/driver is in control, it is entirely possible to have the car taken to be assessed at a Non BMW repair centre, have it totalled by your insurance, but off BMWs books and then (still without comments) someone can buy it at auction, repair it and sell it as a no comments car. We as consumers have no view (still in 2023) of this.
I mentioned in another post that there are exotics where exactly this happens. Even the transporter is a private job, car is wrapped up for transport. Some carry a comment if Ferrari has to order a cradle or certain specific parts that must be tied to the VIN, but you often have NO IDEA of what the damage actually was, how much it cost to repair and there are some cars where even the story of the accident changes as the car passes between dealers. There's one car where I've heard the son drove it through a wall and it was 'only' R800K and another where the same car was driven off the road by someone else and it was a R1.2M bill and still a third at one of the infamous east rand dealers where the car was sitting with even more codes than before and they said nah it was a small prang when someone drove into it while the car was parked 'just a bumper on these cars can be 600K'
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THIS is the problem with no comments cars that have obviously been repaired...
For your joe soap cars or cars involved in accidents where the owner/driver is in control, it is entirely possible to have the car taken to be assessed at a Non BMW repair centre, have it totalled by your insurance, but off BMWs books and then (still without comments) someone can buy it at auction, repair it and sell it as a no comments car. We as consumers have no view (still in 2023) of this.
I mentioned in another post that there are exotics where exactly this happens. Even the transporter is a private job, car is wrapped up for transport. Some carry a comment if Ferrari has to order a cradle or certain specific parts that must be tied to the VIN, but you often have NO IDEA of what the damage actually was, how much it cost to repair and there are some cars where even the story of the accident changes as the car passes between dealers. There's one car where I've heard the son drove it through a wall and it was 'only' R800K and another where the same car was driven off the road by someone else and it was a R1.2M bill and still a third at one of the infamous east rand dealers where the car was sitting with even more codes than before and they said nah it was a small prang when someone drove into it while the car was parked 'just a bumper on these cars can be 600K'
.THIS is the problem with no comments cars that have obviously been repaired...
TurboLlew
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As an example: Even looking at a 'less serious' accident than the M8 example, this came in while I was checking in on my car as well. There is no single side of this CSL that is worse (to my eyes) than this car... There are bits of floor, suspension etc that had been totally destroyed/sheared off by the impact. This was also repaired by insurance. Cars written off for minor-looking impacts are because of the repair values relative to market value. These cars are now 2.5-3.5M in 'value' so you can get to quite serious damage before it becomes uneconomical to repair.
@TurboLlew you are making some valid points about how accident damage to cars is masked and "off the books".
Spanky
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The Throttle House review on the M4 CSL did paint it as a very unwieldy beast.
922-ZN
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It is absolutely MENTAL, the level of mechanical grip is very deceiving, gives you a false sense of confidence, and when it lets go, it's letting go at stupid speeds. I can see how a novice can get into trouble really quick with this car
