m135i vs 2013 135is coupe vs Audi RS3.....which would you choose and why

[Mo63]

Here is what i managed to render.Hope you like :=):

 

[outlaw335]

With the 1M bumper :rollsmile: I like :thumbs::thumbs:

 

[ed_z]

RS3 Quattro 4.5 seconds slower around Kyalami per lap than 1M by Deon Schoeman.
RS3 is limited qty like 1M, go try order one.
If it has a bumper very similar to the 1M bumper then buy it cos it means it will be fast!:=):

 

[Mo63]

RS3 Quattro 4.5 seconds slower around Kyalami per lap than 1M by Deon Schoeman.
RS3 is limited qty like 1M, go try order one.
If it has a bumper very similar to the 1M bumper then buy it cos it means it will be fast!:=):

:fencelook: Good Aerodynamics :roflol:

 

[BrandonF1]

Here is what i managed to render.Hope you like :=):

Thanks so much dude, looks alot more agressive with these rims!

 

[Mo63]

:=): No problem buddy,It definitely needs those GTS wheels.It makes it so much more meaner raise:

 

[realtrevor]

1) m135i - not my favourite shape, but nice car nonetheless
2) 135is - love it, especially if you are going to mod it
3) audi rs3 - a bit bland in the looks department but very sure footed on the road, giving you added confidence to go fast in all situations
4) audi service the worst on the planet. these people just dont care
5) the bmw is much much better overall build quality, altho audi interior stunning.
6) audi allows you to go around bends quicker
7) my ideal package - 235i with xdrive. but seeing as its not on the list, then m135 with X Drive. if I was a track fanatic, then 135is.
8) from the list, in this order:
135is
m135i
rs3

-Audi allows you to go around bends quicker???
This is false, why is that the RS3 is quicker than the 1M on a straight line, but around a racing track the BMW is faster, the BMW gains advantage on the bends and corners because control is left to the driver as opposed to the typical quattro which controls the car for you.

 

[Josh-ZN]

1) m135i - not my favourite shape, but nice car nonetheless
2) 135is - love it, especially if you are going to mod it
3) audi rs3 - a bit bland in the looks department but very sure footed on the road, giving you added confidence to go fast in all situations
4) audi service the worst on the planet. these people just dont care
5) the bmw is much much better overall build quality, altho audi interior stunning.
6) audi allows you to go around bends quicker
7) my ideal package - 235i with xdrive. but seeing as its not on the list, then m135 with X Drive. if I was a track fanatic, then 135is.
8) from the list, in this order:
135is
m135i
rs3

-Audi allows you to go around bends quicker???
This is false, why is that the RS3 is quicker than the 1M on a straight line, but around a racing track the BMW is faster, the BMW gains advantage on the bends and corners because control is left to the driver as opposed to the typical quattro which controls the car for you.

perhaps you need to read my explanation afterwards before claiming its false :flyfun:

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Here is what i managed to render.Hope you like :=):

Thanks so much dude, looks alot more agressive with these rims!

dont like those rims on that car to be honest. sorry

 

[kabal]

and you would never be able to fit that rims that are that concave on that car in real lfe

 

[realtrevor]

A250 AMG

That remains to be seen. I can bet will all I have that it will not be faster than the M135i around a track, even if the A25AMG can push 250Kw. :rollsmile:

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ok, on the road, not the track, go into a bend and accelerate hard into it and out of it in a car with quattro and a car with rwd. if you are a skilled driver, which most of us aren't, then you will probably go around the bend faster in the bmw provided you slide a bit. even if you are able to do this, you will look like a tool doing this on the road.

now quattro makes up for lack of driver ability or show-off attitude. at the extreme it will understeer, but most of us dont go to that extreme. in a bmw it would oversteer and most us of would end up in the ditch. even if the rwd bmw does grip, you just need to touch a slippery patch and good bye rear end.

now lets aid some rain to the mix. even the slightest of rain or slippery surface.

i used to drive an s3 and i never ever worried about losing grip around a bend. it was like it was on train tracks. it never let me down. now in the 135i you really have to be at one with your car.

would i change my 135i, no way! i love it, but i am more cautious around the corners in it than the s3.

- if you are a skilled driver, which most of us aren't, then you will probably go around the bend faster in the bmw provided you slide a bit.
Lack of skill on a driver does not mean his car is slow, it means that driver is slow.

-now lets aid some rain to the mix. even the slightest of rain or slippery surface.
Who dices on a wet surface anyway?

I am not trying to be defensive here, there are 4WDs that are good, like the Nissan GTR. The rest of the Audi quattro models are not that good on a track over the BMW RWD except for the R8.

 

[rhett325]

Ya in truth I find quattro audis to be difficult to judge.

Yes it inspires confidence in corners.
Yes it can make an average driver look like a decent one.
Yes while on throttle the car will handle better.

BUT:

Like any car it has its limits of grip that are determined by its chassis and aerodynamics.
An average driver feels safer approaching a corner at lets say 20km/h more in a quattro. He continues to push that envelope until at last the grip is no more and the car begins to behave like any other. Pushing wide into understeer which can be turned into horrendous lift off oversteer.

You are then left without talent and are driving 20% faster than you would have been in a 135i for instance.

Having had a PROPER tank slapper in a previous generation S3 and also used a 4wd scooby on a dirt drift track I can tell you that getting exceptional performance from a 4wd requires some talent and lots of understanding of vehicle dynamics.

That being said I would prefer the M135i. Dynamically it suits your average driver and getting the tail out on a well balanced car and then the car falling back into line is a feeling that CAN NOT be topped.

To be honest how many of us stretch even the cars we have now to the ragged edge? Maybe 10% of us and that 10% only do it 5% of their total driving.

Dont choose the car on how quick it is around any given corner, choose it on drivability, capability, looks and mostly your gut feel. Us mortal drivers will hardly ever get to stretch any of these cars to their limits.

Sorry for the long read, here is a potato.

 

[Carbon]

go into a bend and accelerate hard into it and out of it ... if you are a skilled driver ... then you will probably go around the bend faster in the bmw provided you slide a bit.

If you are a skilled driver you don't accelerate hard through a corner... not if fast is the purpose. Unless you intensionally want to upset the handling.

You should not accelerate OR brake when you are turning, once again unless you want to change your line through the corner(eg. left foot braking)

Here are the basics... Quattro is heavy, and your engine is in front of your front axles, not good for handling.

And most bmw's actually understeer when pushed too hard, albeit MUCH less than Audis, the difference is you can get it back to neutral or slight oversteer with the throtlle.

You will only oversteer with a bmw if you think that the accelerator and corners go together. Personally I believe they do, but thats just me (btw, sliding is slower than not sliding)

 

[Josh-ZN]

:facepalm:

 

[prospect]

ok, on the road, not the track, go into a bend and accelerate hard into it and out of it in a car with quattro and a car with rwd. if you are a skilled driver, which most of us aren't, then you will probably go around the bend faster in the bmw provided you slide a bit. even if you are able to do this, you will look like a tool doing this on the road.

now quattro makes up for lack of driver ability or show-off attitude. at the extreme it will understeer, but most of us dont go to that extreme. in a bmw it would oversteer and most us of would end up in the ditch. even if the rwd bmw does grip, you just need to touch a slippery patch and good bye rear end.

now lets aid some rain to the mix. even the slightest of rain or slippery surface.

i used to drive an s3 and i never ever worried about losing grip around a bend. it was like it was on train tracks. it never let me down. now in the 135i you really have to be at one with your car.

would i change my 135i, no way! i love it, but i am more cautious around the corners in it than the s3.

Spot on! No RWD BMW will give you that 'in control' feeling when taking bends (on public roads) at very high speeds. But then again, no Audi is as fun as a x35i/Mx.

 

[Diablo Jnr]

M135i ftw...its a complete new package, and the handling on this car is going to be crazy, even though it is rwd. As for the looks, I have a 130iM, and i love the looks of my car, so its not too hard to :inlove: the M135i, and then there is the exhaust tone on this car, like my current car, you just don't get tired of hearing it, and a car needs to make you smile when you drive it, or why bother spending all that money in the first place.
But even though you asked which car to buy, I think your heart has already told you to get the M135i, now to convince your brain...:thumbs:

 

[Jonny]

An RS3 with launch control will usually beat a manual 1M in a straight line over a short distance... Jus sayin'

 

[BrandonF1]

An RS3 with launch control will usually beat a manual 1M in a straight line over a short distance... Jus sayin'

You are right, and this is taken into account, The RS3 is more expensive and has a slightly dated look, but you cant deny that off the line blitz performance:thumbs:

 

[Jonny]

An RS3 with launch control will usually beat a manual 1M in a straight line over a short distance... Jus sayin'

You are right, and this is taken into account, The RS3 is more expensive and has a slightly dated look, but you cant deny that off the line blitz performance:thumbs:

Indeed, very impressive from a standing start. I would still take the M135i over it though.

 

[BrandonF1]

An RS3 with launch control will usually beat a manual 1M in a straight line over a short distance... Jus sayin'

You are right, and this is taken into account, The RS3 is more expensive and has a slightly dated look, but you cant deny that off the line blitz performance:thumbs:

Indeed, very impressive from a standing start. I would still take the M135i over it though.

Thanks for the input bro

 

[ZMC]

135is, old shape. RS3 is nice but is a S3 on steroids and AWD.
M135i FTW!