It arrived.... But

[prospect]

Keep the R and mod it to a 3.9s beast.

 

[Divio]

No need to apologize, you made the right choice

What you trying to say, dude looks like a lady? Haha lol neah it wasn't me

Keep us updated on what's got your eye


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[LPM320]

The current list price on the M3/M4 makes the car (in the link below) look like a bargain. I would probably buy this instead, if I had the $$$ :

http://www.autotrader.co.za/used-ca...486034ce01487d4d9cb1671f?featuredListing=true

 

[babyboss]

Look we def being ripped off in SA

But we not in usa/uk so we hav 2 accept things
the way they are locally :sorry:

So my advice on the way I do things is
if U like somthing car / house / clothes etc
& can afford it - Neg (if possible ) & buy it ,
cos if u gona worry bout depreciation Overseas prices etc
U neve gona enjoy the finer things in life :thumbs:

M3 / M4 are +R1m now & with xchange rate poor
its jus gona get worse :bangdesk:

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O & M3/M4 vs 335 ..

both are xcellent cars but 335 nowhere near
the drive & pleasure of new M's :=):

I drive/have both of these cars
so im talking 1st hand experience :thumbs:

 

[Shabz]

Not going to take this car... Talked to the wife and her reaction: " it looks like a normal Bmw, it's too much... Is it faster than the golf? IS IT FASTER THAN THE 1m? Faster than Sheldon's car? Faster than R8? Buy a r8 convertible again, white with red top, so I can use it to work "... Sigh

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Sheldon sold his M3 and nothing is faster than his Gti

On a serious note, I couldn't justify why here in S.A, we are ripped off with the pricing of brand new cars :nonono:

I don't think you'll regret not taking the car :thumbs:

 

[AndreasSA]

Can fully understand you, would also not pay 1.2 million for a new car...with the look at loosing 30 to 40% within the first two years....

By the way, prices in Germany without extras:

M3 71 500,- Euro or 1 022 450,- Rand
M4 72 200,- Euro or 1 032 460,- Rand

Exchange rate is 14.3 currently....

So you pay here less than in Germany....and the cars are manufactured in Germany....but we always had the highest prices of the world! It is by the way the same with Mercedes, VW, Ford and Audi....around the corner (Netherlands, Italy, France) yoiu get most of the cars for up to 23% less! Except of M of course...

 

[adamr]

I drove the car and I drove a 997 turbo.. Yes the turbo is older now, and they similarly priced. The m4 is fast and a good car no doubt, is it special like a 997 turbo? definitely imo not. The question is which one would one choose a 997 turbo or a Bmw m4... Agree with babyboss you buy what you like... Don't think my heart was on this m4 from the start... If I was looking for the ultimate daily drive, the M4 would be it actually the M3... With a 458 speciale as my weekend car. Right now I ain't in that league so my daily is a golf and I just don't see another awesome daily car as my weekend special... Just my opinion... Dunno if I'm making sense?

A c63 black series is special and an occasion a r8 v8 as well (albeit old and slow by today's standards )... The m3 m4 good functional cars

 

[Sabretooth tiger]

I am with Leonard on this one.

Heck, for a premium brand you'd expect value to stay higher for longer, in reality it does not, and I definitely don't buy cars to keep them, I am way to impulsive for that.

Best is, if you want it with some motorplan, buy them 3 years old, and some plan left. They loose less value after 3 years. The first two years they drop a lot.

 

[moranor@axis]

unless you will be using the rear seats often its hard to argue against the 997 at a similar price...

 

[MikeR]

:thumbs: I agree with LZ....

I may be old school in my thoughts but it horrifies me that guys out there are spending this type of money on an asset that don't hold value in stead of spending it on something like property, they would rather rent a flat/House than buy it.

@Admar... your decision to step back was right IMO

 

[Derrick125]

I think it is downright silly to look at a car from a purely economical point of view, especially a car such as this!

Either you want it or don't want it. Money is a secondary consideration in some spheres. By the same thinking one could opt for Frisko, instead of Kopi Luwak, Mr Price jeans instead of Guess/Levis/Replay etc.

Do all of you buy the cheapest of everything? If the answer is yes then you're not a hypocrite, well done.

 

[Av///M]

sorry guys posted in the wrong thread....

 

[///M Dynamic]

Lovely car. If u can afford it go for it YOLO

 

[Elton_LV]

I drove the car and I drove a 997 turbo.. Yes the turbo is older now, and they similarly priced. The m4 is fast and a good car no doubt, is it special like a 997 turbo? definitely imo not. The question is which one would one choose a 997 turbo or a Bmw m4... Agree with babyboss you buy what you like... Don't think my heart was on this m4 from the start... If I was looking for the ultimate daily drive, the M4 would be it actually the M3... With a 458 speciale as my weekend car. Right now I ain't in that league so my daily is a golf and I just don't see another awesome daily car as my weekend special... Just my opinion... Dunno if I'm making sense?

A c63 black series is special and an occasion a r8 v8 as well (albeit old and slow by today's standards )... The m3 m4 good functional cars

Been thinking the same....
I'd go new Boxster or 997....
Reason, 997 a lot of car for the money now and they generally well looked after.
New Boxster, for some reason the boxsters hold value

But consider an E30 M3 as a weekend car, cost you plus of 500k but you have an asset and a great car

 

[adamr]

I think it is downright silly to look at a car from a purely economical point of view, especially a car such as this!

Either you want it or don't want it. Money is a secondary consideration in some spheres. By the same thinking one could opt for Frisko, instead of Kopi Luwak, Mr Price jeans instead of Guess/Levis/Replay etc.

Do all of you buy the cheapest of everything? If the answer is yes then you're not a hypocrite, well done.

The point is not if one can afford it or not... Its value... Would you pay R20000 for an iPhone 6? I wouldn't... Would I mind one? Yes of course... Wife wants it... I like nice things... So i will buy it if I think the price is right... Btw I don't wear guess or Levis... I only do G star and True religion ... Kidding

I worked damn hard for my money without any charity handouts from anyone... So I will consider the value price ratio in everything material that I purchase... Be it a cellphone, house or car...

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I drove the car and I drove a 997 turbo.. Yes the turbo is older now, and they similarly priced. The m4 is fast and a good car no doubt, is it special like a 997 turbo? definitely imo not. The question is which one would one choose a 997 turbo or a Bmw m4... Agree with babyboss you buy what you like... Don't think my heart was on this m4 from the start... If I was looking for the ultimate daily drive, the M4 would be it actually the M3... With a 458 speciale as my weekend car. Right now I ain't in that league so my daily is a golf and I just don't see another awesome daily car as my weekend special... Just my opinion... Dunno if I'm making sense?

A c63 black series is special and an occasion a r8 v8 as well (albeit old and slow by today's standards )... The m3 m4 good functional cars

Been thinking the same....
I'd go new Boxster or 997....
Reason, 997 a lot of car for the money now and they generally well looked after.
New Boxster, for some reason the boxsters hold value

But consider an E30 M3 as a weekend car, cost you plus of 500k but you have an asset and a great car

Yeah exactly... New cayman and boxster are awesome (had the new cayman awesome car... But I wouldn't mind an s version or gts version of it)

Right now my options would be another house a 991 carrera s... A gt3 997.2... C63 black... All of which are in that similar price bracket of the m4 (second hand of course)

 

[sash]

I think it is downright silly to look at a car from a purely economical point of view, especially a car such as this!

Either you want it or don't want it. Money is a secondary consideration in some spheres. By the same thinking one could opt for Frisko, instead of Kopi Luwak, Mr Price jeans instead of Guess/Levis/Replay etc.

Do all of you buy the cheapest of everything? If the answer is yes then you're not a hypocrite, well done.

Right.... the couple R100 difference in clothing and perishable items are now being compared to couple R100 000 in depreciating assets.

While money might be a secondary consideration for some, unfortunately, the majority sees it as a primary consideration. The next question might just be, was it BMW's intention and their target market was those people who dont look at things from an economical point of view?

 

[Derrick125]

I think it is downright silly to look at a car from a purely economical point of view, especially a car such as this!

Either you want it or don't want it. Money is a secondary consideration in some spheres. By the same thinking one could opt for Frisko, instead of Kopi Luwak, Mr Price jeans instead of Guess/Levis/Replay etc.

Do all of you buy the cheapest of everything? If the answer is yes then you're not a hypocrite, well done.

Right.... the couple R100 difference in clothing and perishable items are now being compared to couple R100 000 in depreciating assets.

While money might be a secondary consideration for some, unfortunately, the majority sees it as a primary consideration. The next question might just be, was it BMW's intention and their target market was those people who dont look at things from an economical point of view?

Why not read what I said and swill it around for a few considered seconds before typing an ill-considered response?

This is (mostly) a free market system; wherein M3/M4s seemed to be pegged at around 200k +- above the Main Dealer price. This means that the market, that is those in the market for such toys, are WILLING to pay the exagerated premium. Which means, further, that with all things premium (and mostly non-essential), price is not directly related to intrinsic value. This applies to anything from jeans to Bugattis - it's relative.

 

[adamr]

Those are dealers speculating at those price points... No one just throws money at stuff these days especially cash... Unless the car is financed by someone that landed a huge Bee tender

 

[sash]

Why not read what I said and swill it around for a few considered seconds before typing an ill-considered response?

This is (mostly) a free market system; wherein M3/M4s seemed to be pegged at around 200k +- above the Main Dealer price. This means that the market, that is those in the market for such toys, are WILLING to pay the exagerated premium. Which means, further, that with all things premium (and mostly non-essential), price is not directly related to intrinsic value. This applies to anything from jeans to Bugattis - it's relative.

I believe you should do the same. Your comment implies that if you can afford an expensive car, depreciation is not in your vocabulary and in turn if you drive an expensive you must buy expensive everything, else you are a hypocrite. I agree that there are people who can afford to do this and have more cents than sense, but the generalising all people is, as you mentioned earlier.., silly.

If I have the choice of spending 15k per month on a car or living in a better house in a better location, with better coffee and more expensive jeans, i go with the latter, but it doesnt make me a hypocrite.

 

[Hotclutch]

It's not only BMW that price like this. To buy a new Astra OPC now will cost nearly R600k. I honestly think there are cost pressures on these dealers, like exchange rate and duties perhaps, that cause them to price like this, otherwise they are getting economics wrong and killing demand.