Is the new BMW 1 Series going front-wheel-drive a good thing?

tman

Well-known member
Yes its a good thing, for BMW.

Overall Its cheaper to manufacture, and they can make more money.
 

Soprano890925

Active member
If it's cheaper to manufacture then it's good for the manufacturer, but I wouldnt say it's good for the BMW enthusiast out there, I personally like RWD, but the industry is ever evolving, all we can do is hope the evolution produces a truly special car.
 

TurboLlew

Honorary ///Member
Good for profit margins for a company that claims to lose R30K on average for every new R750K+ 4 cylinder car they sell :eek:mgwaiting: :roflol: :biglol:

Probably fine for most of the market this car is aimed at.

Horrific for 95% on this forum

As for AWD - sure it is good but anyone who has driven an F90 knows that the reason many are not moving from F10/12 is (yes definitely the price but also) because of how it feels (between autobox and AWD). Why doesn't everyone with X Drive available in their market go with it? I know everyone wants to chase 7R numbers at the strip or robot to robot (hence BMW seems to feel the need to be AWD on the higher end models. It isn't OK to catch and pass - guys are heartbroken that their prosthetic penis takes an extra 3 seconds to catch and pass something or heaven forbid run even or slightly behind. I know that everyone wants to pretend the badge naming is fine and not absolutely retarded at the moment... but that too is going too far - why? Because some dude in marketing knows that that a bunch of executives will tell his mates that his M150i X Drive 11 Speed Auto 3 cylinder turbo with 200K worth of carbon fibre and M badges all over it is better than the old 6 cylinder M135/140i? :roflol: We are kidding ourselves if we think this isn't the real reason these manufacturers do this crap.

There was more to these cars than times or being RWD or even being manual for the thousands of enthusiasts that bought them not necessarily to race but because of how they felt or made them feel on the right road (or even just during an especially empty morning commute). Yes it might try to kill you but it will also reward you beyond measure when you eventually get it right - learning to tame it is part of the fun I guess LOL. We now have a bunch of kids that squeal when the electronic nanny intervenes

Even considering FWD cars, Honda used to have this ethos where even a 1.5L with no torque still had the 'fun to drive' DNA in it. Same with Renault. I am afraid this is being lost in all these new cars so that you can pop it into launch control and accelerate from light to light or have a car that set a blistering ring time...

Times? Buy a TT RS or RS3 if you want that - there is a reason everyone and their dog hasn't bought one though and there are a handful running around, even fewer modded whilst BMW can't seem to sell enough M2/3/4s. Same with the GT-R (and it obviously isn't price since RWD cars are selling in numbers... at these price points). F10 sales didn't suddenly tank when the E63 became an AWD animal halfway through its lifecycle.

FWD bragging rights? It ain't with the germans (good luck at Renault or Honda). RWD? Well if all their performance cars are going to be AWD, then BMW will have lost their point of difference and with their copying of the designs/shapes of other manufacturers and again going with polarising design choices, will give very little reason to choose them.
 

husaindindar

///Member
Well its definitely not going to have the near 50/50 weight distribution anymore...

Maybe going FWD is not a bad thing as guys who buy 118i's or 120i's dont really bother with driving cars to the limit.

However, the 135i should have been given an X Drive as the only option with rear drive bias.
Enthusiast are the ones buying 135i's.

That might be a little easier to accept for us fanatics.




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tman

Well-known member
husaindindar said:
However, the 135i should have been given an X Drive as the only option with rear drive bias.

I am pretty sure its stated that the top model will have Xdrive
 

Nick

Honorary ///Member
Not that i could afford the new 135 or even the 1st 135i, however i think the last remnant of "BMWNESS" was the i6 RWD, BMW DNA, Heritage and lifestyle is gone now.

Look its still a bloody nice car, looks awesome inside and all but for me its a no.

Guess we still have the 3series and up to keep our passions alive...
 

TBP88

Well-known member
I thought it all went wonky when a decently sorted n54 could have 100hp+ more than an M3. But maybe I'm just old school.

For sure it's better (easier, cheaper, more part sharing deals with, for eg. toyota) for BMW. But way worse for customers. Heck, the next 1 series might share a platform with the new runx.
 

gavsadler

///Member
I'm a RWD fan for sure, but that being said, I think this may be one of the better FWD cars out there.

As others have said, it's based on the Mini platform, and that has had a good 15-20 years of development so far (I can't believe it actually - time is flying).

I did the full track experience at Kyalami back in 2001 - in a Cooper S, and that was really a fun car to drive. Handled really well, and kept many E46 Ms honest through the corners.

Subsequent to that I've driven the 1.6 Turbo version and that was also great fun.

So I think overall it will be good, sure it's not going to slide around corners with the ass hanging way out, but how often does that happen anyway (@Danny - don't answer that) :smilebounce:

Let's see when it get's here and some reviews start filtering in...
 
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