Ilegal street drag racing- not good

WyKiD

Active member
Sankekur said:
The racing on voortrekker road has been going on for a very long time, and will probably go on until the day that the goverment makes everything related to cars so expensive that no one can afford them or they demolish voortrekker road.

I am guessing the metro could do something about this and street racing in general if they stop hiding in bushes or seeking bribes.

Eish...Coisman is going to have your car impounded....:mmm:
 

Coisman

Administrator
Staff member
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I was on duty, and had to hear one of my off duty officers on the scene scream over the radio for the fire brigade, while the driver of the 350z was screaming for his life when the car caught fire...
This type of accident is so avoidable, and now because of it families are destroyed. I myself drive that road every day, and is sometimes amazed at how people drive there, without any regards to their own safety, or to that of the other road users.
 

Hellas

///Member
So what are the chances of the Metro creating more regular ' track days' (even close off a couple of streets) so that people can get this out of their system?
 

Coisman

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Staff member
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Hellas, I actually suggested this about 10 years ago, with a plan on where to hold it, but the problem is that as soon as the council organizes the event, then all liability falls on them if someone gets hurt.
So they are scared of civil claims. :facepalm:
 

Coisman

Administrator
Staff member
:pimp:
I read this on news 24:
Cops must stop drag races: Ndebele

Pretoria - Transport Minister Sbu Ndebele on Monday urged law enforcement officials to crack down on illegal drag racing after three people were killed in an apparent drag race at the weekend. "Law enforcement officers are expected to know where these illegal drag races are taking place and they must stop the racing before it even starts," he said. Ndebele said that law enforcement should not be afraid to confiscate vehicles or suspend licences if it would prevent illegal drag racing. "We are calling upon law enforcement agencies to do everything possible to put an end to illegal drag racing, especially in Gauteng and KwaZulu-Natal.

The department would even assist to arrange legal races, but illegal drag racing would not be tolerated. Two people died on the scene and a third died later in hospital after crash involving two vehicles in Gezina around 20:00. The two cars crashed into two other cars, which were not taking part in the race. One of the vehicles crashed into a pole and burst into flames and the other broke apart when it hit another pole.

Synchronisation: Tshwane safety and security spokesperson William Baloyi said the city of Tshwane had approached engineers for advice on how to make Voortrekker Road safer after the death of the three in an apparent drag race at the weekend. Tshwane safety and security spokesperson William Baloyi said: "We are looking at a multitude of possible solutions." One of the options under consideration was for the city to change the synchronisation of robots on that road so that not all robots were green at the same time. Another option was building speed bumps, but that came with a different set of problems. "That is a very busy road and speed bumps might contribute to traffic congestion during heavy traffic flow." He said the city was waiting for feedback from engineers before any decisions would be taken.

The DA called on the city's mayor on Monday morning to "intervene immediately to stop the illegal racing in Voortrekker Road on Sunday evenings", said Moot councillor Elmarie Linde in a statement. "We have submitted two petitions in the last four years requesting action, but to no avail. "It is time that the mayor visits Voortrekker Road on a Sunday evening to see for himself what is happening there," said DA councillor Hendrik Fourie of Ward 53.

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Guys, feel free to follow this story on my thread as well: http://www.bmwfanatics.co.za/showthread.php?tid=9447&page=32
I will most likely be posting some pics there later tonight. :thumb:
 

moranor@axis

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im just glad no innocents got hurt... to only way to stop this is to make places where people can do it safely... clamping down on it just pushes it to other places that may even be less safe :(

whenever you try make a track its always met with opposition and thats one of the main why it does bot happen close to towns...
 

herr bmw

///Member
read the pretoria news this morning,the uno and bmw jumped the red light,the bm hit the nissan which was turning innocently into voortrekkers,the uno swerved to avoid the other two landing up hitting a pole,the nissan was wrapped around a pole and caught fire.
the investigaters are checking the cctv footage ,a witness also said the uno had gone down a couple of times at high speeds.
also the authorties said they will clamp down on illeagal drag racing even by closing down tuning firms etc.

so we all suffer.i can drive a modified car at 60km,does this mean im racing ?no i just like the sport of legal racing and the way my car looks and sounds.

condolances to the family of the innocent nissan driver.
 

netercol

New member
the uno and bmw jumped the red light,the bm hit the nissan which was turning innocently into voortrekkers,the uno swerved to avoid the other two landing up hitting a pole,the nissan was wrapped around a pole and caught fire.

unlikely. a car does not wrap itself around a pole, tear its motor out and throw the motor 50 odd meters at low speed.. that nissan was moving, and fast.
 

herr bmw

///Member
netercol said:
the uno and bmw jumped the red light,the bm hit the nissan which was turning innocently into voortrekkers,the uno swerved to avoid the other two landing up hitting a pole,the nissan was wrapped around a pole and caught fire.

unlikely. a car does not wrap itself around a pole, tear its motor out and throw the motor 50 odd meters at low speed.. that nissan was moving, and fast.

that is what i read in the pretoria news today,front page.
logic tells me it was traveling at high speed unless a bus or truck hit or a nissan is made out of paper

 

Slamz

///Member
this is really sad... i used to race back in the day, but we were always safe, although i've seen quiet a few accidents in my day... now i've grown up and never race... it's not worth the risk of peoples lives, nevermind your own
 

Slamz

///Member
this is really sad... i used to race back in the day, but we were always safe, although i've seen quiet a few accidents in my day... now i've grown up and never race... it's not worth the risk of peoples lives, nevermind your own
 

KarshS

///Member
Well first we should stop pointing fingers and saying crap about the drivers. They are just like any of us who has that sudden urge to put foot.

Yes i have been to voortrekkers many times. Not to race but to watch as i dont have a fast car. Even if you are just watching you go there knowing you put your life in danger.

One of my friends brother was in the uno, Passenger side and it has effected there whole family. Just like me stepping out of my house every morning is not safe. Driving where ever is not safe. Life is just not guaranteed any longer. This is SA after all. Open the news paper. Farm killing and what have you. As much as we can say ilegal drag racing blah blah it was just being at the wrong place at the wrong time.

After reading everything i think that the uno and the 350 z was racing. The driver of the X3 was parked stationary (for what?) 350 trying to miss the x3 and ended up just bumping the x3 and pushed the uno causing the whole drama. And yes alot of speed was being done to cause that damage.
 

Coisman

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Staff member
v.r.sexy6 said:
...After reading everything i think that the uno and the 350 z was racing. The driver of the X3 was parked stationary (for what?) 350 trying to miss the x3 and ended up just bumping the x3 and pushed the uno causing the whole drama...

Ok, firstly sorry to hear that you knew the person that passed away in the Uno, but see now there is where you need to get your facts straight!!!
I posted what happened and here is what I said:
http://www.bmwfanatics.co.za/showthread.php?tid=18411

"Ok, so here is the latest update, as from the mouth of the investigating officer:
350z and Uno was racing and was charging down Voortrekker road, X3 tried to get out of the way by doing a lane change to the right,
but the X3 swerved to the right lane to avoid being hit by the Uno, that was struggling to break, and hit my the 350z,
making it spin out of control, hit the lamppole, and as per photos, you know the rest.
The Uno lost control, skid out of control, and hit the lamppole on the oppisite side of the street, and broke up into 2 pieces, and the front part hit a Jetta, that was parked, watching the races."

So to clarify... Uno and 350z racing, X3 sees Uno is struggling to stop for the RED LIGHT where the X3 was standing, X3 tried to get out of the way of the Uno, and hit the 350z on the side as the 350z was charging past in the right hand lane, the Uno then lost control and spun out hitting the lamppole on the left of the road, while the 350z hit a pole on the right hand side of the road.
So, the X3 was stationalry because he was stopped at a red traffic light.
 

rick540

///Member
Driving in South africa......

You spend more time than anything looking for shit in the rear view mirror these days. I've lost count of the amount of times I've had to hoof it into the other lane bacuase of something doing 160kmh trying to take a gap near me that just won't work out.

The other problem is lamp posts and trees, there are some very good reasons they don't have these around race tracks, I saw a car connect one at about 120Kmh sideways right in front of me a few years ago. That image is burned in my mind forever, a tree or post may as well be a blade.

 

KarshS

///Member
Coisman said:
v.r.sexy6 said:
...After reading everything i think that the uno and the 350 z was racing. The driver of the X3 was parked stationary (for what?) 350 trying to miss the x3 and ended up just bumping the x3 and pushed the uno causing the whole drama...

Ok, firstly sorry to hear that you knew the person that passed away in the Uno, but see now there is where you need to get your facts straight!!!
I posted what happened and here is what I said:
http://www.bmwfanatics.co.za/showthread.php?tid=18411

"Ok, so here is the latest update, as from the mouth of the investigating officer:
350z and Uno was racing and was charging down Voortrekker road, X3 tried to get out of the way by doing a lane change to the right,
but the X3 swerved to the right lane to avoid being hit by the Uno, that was struggling to break, and hit my the 350z,
making it spin out of control, hit the lamppole, and as per photos, you know the rest.
The Uno lost control, skid out of control, and hit the lamppole on the oppisite side of the street, and broke up into 2 pieces, and the front part hit a Jetta, that was parked, watching the races."

So to clarify... Uno and 350z racing, X3 sees Uno is struggling to stop for the RED LIGHT where the X3 was standing, X3 tried to get out of the way of the Uno, and hit the 350z on the side as the 350z was charging past in the right hand lane, the Uno then lost control and spun out hitting the lamppole on the left of the road, while the 350z hit a pole on the right hand side of the road.
So, the X3 was stationalry because he was stopped at a red traffic light.

Get my facts straight? i said that is what i think so its not facts. I did not see you post so excuse.

I did not know the person that passed away in the UNO. I said it was a friend of mines brother.

The only thing thats pissing me off is that people show no regard for the people whos lives where lost due to there being spectators which in turn makes it an illegal event. People drive like a holes every day and when you see an accident the passers by are like haai shame thats sad. Just because these people died at an event its like hoo haa.....

Peoples children where lost so show some sympathy man.

Not the BMW club by the way just reading the comments on the net.
 

XMAX

///Member
I think its really sad what happened here, but this sort of thing happens very often.

I feel for the families of those who lost their lives but I believe that these people knew what they were getting themselves into when street racing. Sure.. they didnt expect to die that night, but just like all racing enthusiasts, they knew the risks involved.


Back in the day, i used to attend these events and used to derive alot of pleasure from the the sights and sounds of the illegal racing vibe as im am sure that alot those who attend these events do also.

We need to ask, if this sport was legalised, or brought to the masses (like the Street to Strip events of the past), would the people attend. Yes would be the answer... with the issue that this sort of event happens in every town. how easy would it be for someone from Witbank to attend a Street to Strip event in JHB. not at all.


Forgive my rambling on about different topics. cant help it.


What can we as citizens do? not attend these event? I dont think so. I think that there should be some control, maybe by private companies, including tuning shops and mayble also sign a disclaimer like you get at the professional events. Get the MSA involved.

i dunno.

I just felt like typing. Most of it doesnt even make sense to me. but... meh.

 

WyKiD

Active member
Coisman said:
v.r.sexy6 said:
...After reading everything i think that the uno and the 350 z was racing. The driver of the X3 was parked stationary (for what?) 350 trying to miss the x3 and ended up just bumping the x3 and pushed the uno causing the whole drama...

Ok, firstly sorry to hear that you knew the person that passed away in the Uno, but see now there is where you need to get your facts straight!!!
I posted what happened and here is what I said:
http://www.bmwfanatics.co.za/showthread.php?tid=18411

"Ok, so here is the latest update, as from the mouth of the investigating officer:
350z and Uno was racing and was charging down Voortrekker road, X3 tried to get out of the way by doing a lane change to the right,
but the X3 swerved to the right lane to avoid being hit by the Uno, that was struggling to break, and hit my the 350z,
making it spin out of control, hit the lamppole, and as per photos, you know the rest.
The Uno lost control, skid out of control, and hit the lamppole on the oppisite side of the street, and broke up into 2 pieces, and the front part hit a Jetta, that was parked, watching the races."

So to clarify... Uno and 350z racing, X3 sees Uno is struggling to stop for the RED LIGHT where the X3 was standing, X3 tried to get out of the way of the Uno, and hit the 350z on the side as the 350z was charging past in the right hand lane, the Uno then lost control and spun out hitting the lamppole on the left of the road, while the 350z hit a pole on the right hand side of the road.
So, the X3 was stationalry because he was stopped at a red traffic light.

This incident is regretable and condolences to all families affected. I am not familar with this strech of road or the apparent long ongoing "racing" that takes place there.
My question is do the people racing there not stop at the red traffic lights??? If the UNO could not stop in time to avoid hitting the stationary(at traffic light) X3, why then was the 350Z charging past when he should have been almost stationary too at the traffic light...:thinking: Looking at the extent of the damage on the cars, these guys were still going at a fair rate of speed.
 
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