First time BMW buyer, looking to buy 323i

[Jakkals_F30]

Just a quick one guys. Is the 18" wheels worth the extra R10 000?
How much would they cost me at BMW, the sales guy says they go for about R40 000 citing that the R10 000 he's offering me is a bargain.

40K for the mags - BMW pricing it's possible but i think they still talking crap. if you had to phone sales and ask for prices it would be 20K less if you say you have a E90 and want the 18" mags.. Then also compare replacement tyre prices and also base your decision on that.

And i agree by knocking the price for the mags off by 5K

 

[DreamB]

Will try that... I also fee the car should include the wheels at the current price. He's just pushing it. On the showroom it's fitted with 18" wheels but he's saying they optional and will take them off and put 17"s should I not take them. Crazy!

Also, how much should I expect to pay on insurance for an E90 325i, how much is everyone paying for their E90's?
I know it differs dependant on profile. But just want to get an idea.

 

[Jakkals_F30]

Age and profile etc...

At the moment i'm paying 745 a month and no excess for my 323 so i reckon you should pay around the same...

Tell the dealer you will take the car if he leaves the 18's on and no price hike as that is how the car is displayed with that price...
You can't put a car up for sale and when someone is interested say ok the mags would be 10k extra... :bs: it's advertised with 18's at that price so i want it as it is there.
Nowhere does it state that it's for show purposes only. In afrikaans... sy GAT....


Screw him trying to make extra money.. imp:

 

[XMAX]

he cannot say that those are optional. you should kick his ass, and go to his manager and report him.

guy is taking a chance.


if this is a bmw dealership, then you can even complain to BMW head office.

 

[DreamB]

Age and profile etc...

At the moment i'm paying 745 a month and no excess for my 323 so i reckon you should pay around the same...

Tell the dealer you will take the car if he leaves the 18's on and no price hike as that is how the car is displayed with that price...
You can't put a car up for sale and when someone is interested say ok the mags would be 10k extra... :bs: it's advertised with 18's at that price so i want it as it is there.
Nowhere does it state that it's for show purposes only. In afrikaans... sy GAT....


Screw him trying to make extra money.. imp:

How old are you if you don't mind me asking? (with reference to your very low insurance premium)
I'm 28

 

[Jakkals_F30]

I'm 34

 

[DreamB]

I'm 34

Less R1000 on your insurance sir

 

[Jakkals_F30]

Yes cause they think ou toppies drive slow all the time :thinker:

 

[Yulz9081]

Ok firstly when the salesman sent you the Offer To Purchase, did the spec list of the vehicle quote Style 194 17'' wheels or Style 193 18" wheels? If the OTP states the latter, that salesman doesn't have a foot to stand on and has to give it to you with 18".
When I was shopping around for demos before I decided to go new on the 323, one dealer sent me an OTP with 18'' listed but upon viewing it had the 17". I kicked and screamed and the wheels got swapped but then I didn't take the car

Insurance is on my dad's name at R1025 incl household contents (Iemas) as I'm only 21 and want a decent insurance premium not another vehicle installment

 

[DreamB]

Guys I found a 325i. M-sports pack with sunroof, 2009 with 43 000 km's on the clock.

I'm worried though as it's been in an accident before. Repairs are listed below and amount to R110 809.52. It was repaired by ABS (Auto Body Specialists) in Midrand.

The first column on the list is the part, the 1 is the quantity, then it's the amount of the part. On rows with two amounts the 2nd amount is labour.

Please advice if these are major according to the below or cosmetic repairs.

Should I worry?

1 New L/FRT FENDERLINER 1 154.44
2 New L/SIDE SKIRT 1 1936.79
3 New BOOTLID TYPE EMBLEM 1 484.93
4 New RR/ L EXHAUST CLAMP 1 514.68
5 New FASTENING CLIPS 1 200.00
6 New FRT AXLE SUPPORT 1 7346.34
7 New L/FRT WISHBONE 1 1464.03
8 New L/F TOWING STRUT 1 1230.73
9 New L/F CPL SPRING STRUT 1 4214.06
10 New L/F STEERING KNUCKLE 1 1914.81
11 New L/F STRUT BEARING 1 1314.65
12 New L/F WHEEL HUB W BEAR 1 2212.13
13 New L/F PROTECT PLATE 1 94.68
14 New L/F BRAKE DISK 1 793.19
15 New L/F WHEEL RIM 1 8558.61
16 New L/F TYRE 1 5250.00
17 New L/F ABS SENSOR 1 1017.88
18 New STEERING EX 1 9175.00
19 New L/TIE ROD 1 1413.73
20 New F/EXHAUST MUFFLER 1 7994.15
21 New REAR AXLE X MEMBER 1 10195.15
22 New L/R WHEEL BEARING 1 357.93
23 New L/DRIVEN FLANGE 1 1284.28
24 New L/R WHEEL SUPPORT 1 6082.14
25 New L/R SWINGING ARM 1 606.31
26 New L/R TIE ROD 1 282.03
New L/R WHEEL RIM 1 9034.13
28 New L/R TYRE 1 5850.00
29 New BRAKE FLUID 1 365.00
30 SUNDRIES 1 0.00 1826.84
31 ADD TIME TO MAIN WORK 1 0.00 43.33
32 PREP TIME FOR CAVITY PROTECT 1 0.00 65.00
33 RETREAT L/ENGINE CARRIER WITH 1 0.00 65.00
34 D&A FRT ASSEMBLIES 1 0.00 1971.67
35 D&A FRT BUMPER 1 0.00 260.00
36 D&A FRT NO PLATE 1 0.00 21.67
37 D&A L/F WHEELHOUSE CVR 1 0.00 86.67
38 D&A L SILL BEAD 1 0.00 43.33
39 D&A REAR BADGE 1 0.00 43.33
40 D&A REAR DRIVE SHAFT 1 0.00 65.00
41 REPLACE FRT SILENCER 1 0.00 43.33
42 FUNCT TEST ANTI-LOCK BRACKING 1 0.00 151.67
43 REPLACE FRT SUSP CROSS MEMB 1 0.00 216.67
44 REPLACE LH SUSPENSION ARM 1 0.00 21.67
45 D&A LFT FRT WHEEL/TYRE 1 0.00 130.00
46 REPLACE FRT BRAKE DISC 1 0.00 43.33
47 D&A LFT FRT SUSP STRUT 1 0.00 216.67
48 REPLACE LH FRT STUT 1 0.00 130.00
49 D&A L/F CABLE BRKT 1 0.00 65.00
50 RENEW HYDRO GEAR 1 0.00 86.67
51 RENEW REAR AXLE CARRIER 1 0.00 758.33
52 D&A L/REAR RIM TYRE 1 0.00 130.00
53 D&A L/R BRAKE CALIPER 1 0.00 43.33
54 D&A REAR BRAKE DISC 1 0.00 43.33
55 D&A L/R WHEEL CARRIER 1 0.00 281.67
56 D&A LFT REAR TORSION 1 0.00 65.00
57 RENEW L/R WHEEL CARRIER 1 0.00 173.33
58 D&A L/R ROCKER ARM 1 0.00 65.00
59 D&A L/FRT REAR COIL SPRING 1 0.00 86.67
60 D&A BRAKE FLUID 1 0.00 260.00
61 ADD WORK STRAIGHTEN LFT SIDE 1 0.00 520.00
62 ON/OFF CAR ON CHASSIS JIG 1 0.00 780.00
D&A CHASSIS JIG 1 0.00 780.00
64 BODY MEASURING ALIGN BODYSHELL 1 0.00 780.00
65 Repair FRT BUMPER CVR 1 0.00 520.00
66 Repair L/FRT WHEELHOUSE 1 0.00 780.00
67 W/OUT ADJ 1 0.00 520.00
68 Spray FRT BUMPER 1 0.00 1.00
69 Spray L/SIDE SKIRT 1 0.00 -1.00
70 Blend L/FRT WHEELHOUSE 1 0.00 5084.21
71 ACC QUALITY CHECK 1 0.00 1500.00
72 RUBBERISE UNDERBODY SEALANT 1 0.00 450.00
73 ADHESIVE SEALANT 1 0.00 250.00

TOTALS
Parts R91 341. 80
Labour R 5 958. 33
Paint R 5 784. 21
Strip/Assm R 5 898. 34
Frame R 0.00
Misc/Outwork R1 826. 84
Shop Supplies R 0. 00
Paint Supplies R 0.00

Total (Exl Tax) R110 809.52
Tax R15 513. 33

 

[Jakkals_F30]

Ok my personal opinion on this dude...

Rather not get it. There might be guys here saying it wasn't that bad but i look at the silly things like these that's listed.
New FRT AXLE SUPPORT 1 7346.34
7 New L/FRT WISHBONE 1 1464.03
8 New L/F TOWING STRUT 1 1230.73
9 New L/F CPL SPRING STRUT 1 4214.06
10 New L/F STEERING KNUCKLE 1 1914.81
11 New L/F STRUT BEARING 1 1314.65
12 New L/F WHEEL HUB W BEAR 1 2212.13
13 New L/F PROTECT PLATE 1 94.68
14 New L/F BRAKE DISK 1 793.19
15 New L/F WHEEL RIM 1 8558.61
21 New REAR AXLE X MEMBER 1 10195.15
22 New L/R WHEEL BEARING 1 357.93
23 New L/DRIVEN FLANGE 1 1284.28
24 New L/R WHEEL SUPPORT 1 6082.14
25 New L/R SWINGING ARM 1 606.31
26 New L/R TIE ROD 1 282.03

Some extracts out of there... according to me and anyone please feel free to comment and voice your opinions on this but there was suspension damage + 2 mags... who says the whole suspension didn't get hurt or anything of that sorts.. tyres might wear abnormally...

i would say skip it... almost the total price of the car in repairs.
:shocked:

 

[ClassicB]

Dont take this car!!!

 

[Jakkals_F30]

DreamB - What price range are you looking at ? let me waste some work time trying to find you a car

Also what are you looking for in the car ? cosmetic, sportpack ?

 

[DreamB]

DreamB - What price range are you looking at ? let me waste some work time trying to find you a car

Also what are you looking for in the car ? cosmetic, sportpack ?

R290 000 max. Sports pack facelift.

 

[Jakkals_F30]

mmmm let me see what's out there...
you can get some damn nice cars for that price dude..

Doing some shopping now.

 

[prospect]

DreamB take that car only if the price is R110k

This looks good: http://search.autotrader.co.za/www/cars_advert?id=201122187694372

2009 320D. Alpine White III , 37 600 km , Diesel, Sedan, 4 Doors, Steptronic, Full service history.Black leather, Steptronic, Glass sunroof, PDC rear, Balance of M/Plan.

No xenon lights though

Slightly over budget but you can negotiate: http://search.autotrader.co.za/www/cars_advert?id=201121187685881