F30 330d vs f30 328i

[phantom]

I thought this might be an interesting shootout and based on the figures logged this will definitely be one where the driver will play a part in who wins.
The 330d is a Feb 2014 manufacture and the 328i an April 2014 manufacture.Both cars are 8 speed auto with low mileage.
The 330d is rated 190kw/560nm and the 328i 180kw/350nm.Less power on the 328i but at least 100kg lighter.

Results as logged.
.......................F30 330d..............................F30 328i.................

60ft...........2.52sec.....54km/h.................2.40sec...........55km/h
1/8mile.......9.30sec....128km/h................9.10sec...........130km/h
1/4mile......14.28sec...159km/h...............14.00sec..........162km/h
1km...........25.90sec...207km/h...............25.48sec..........210km/h
0-100km/h.........6.00sec........................5.70sec
100-200km/h....18.04sec........................17.60sec
800mts......22.32sec....194km/h..............21.9sec.............198km/h

The figures on this 330d are slightly slower than the 2013 model logged last year but i suspect the 10ppm fuel has something to do with this.The car tested last year had Total 50ppm diesel and the car tested now had Sasol 10ppm.
The 328i had 10% ethanol added to the Sasol 95 octane.

Temperature test at 14 degrees
MB 855
Altitude 1480mts.

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[MaX]

Which side is which?

 

[phantom]

Which side is which?

Sorry edit done....blonde moment :biglol:
Would have made a great "which is which"

 

[MaX]

:thumbs: Some interesting results. I would've thought the 330d the faster of the two!

 

[Rayzor]

They are both awesome machines but i think i still like the oil burner more :fencelook:

 

[Sankekur]

I thought diesels where supposed to be fast?

 

[phantom]

:thumbs: Some interesting results. I would've thought the 330d the faster of the two!

The 2013 model figures were better than that of the 328i but i will definitely have to do a relog with the new car once it is refilled with 50ppm diesel.
The 320d i logged with the 10ppm was also slower than the previous car that had 50ppm diesel.Unfortunately at our Sasol filling station you can now only get the 10ppm.

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I thought diesels where supposed to be fast?

When you do these tests back to back figures do not lie. What i can say is the 330d does it's figures in a very relaxed way, seemingly witout effort, whereas the 328i has to work very hard. Hope that makes sense.
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:thumbs: Some interesting results. I would've thought the 330d the faster of the two!

Based on pure factory figures one would expect the 330d to be faster.If i take the speed achieved by the 328 IMO these cars with the 10% ethanol are producing closer to 190kw standard. :thumbs:

 

[Fordkoppie]

The order of this world is going to end in chaos now after this reveal.

Must say that I am chuffed the petrol came out tops.

I am pretty sure I know which way the scales would have tipped if a plough was hooked to both:fencelook:

 

[Sankekur]

I thought diesels where supposed to be fast?

When you do these tests back to back figures do not lie. What i can say is the 330d does it's figures in a very relaxed way, seemingly witout effort, whereas the 328i has to work very hard. Hope that makes sense.

I think I understand.

Both being turbocharged I would have expected a 3l to run circles around a 2l.

 

[MaX]

Anyone know what an F30 330d makes on the wheels?

 

[Rayzor]

I thought diesels where supposed to be fast?

When you do these tests back to back figures do not lie. What i can say is the 330d does it's figures in a very relaxed way, seemingly witout effort, whereas the 328i has to work very hard. Hope that makes sense.

I think I understand.

Both being turbocharged I would have expected a 3l to run circles around a 2l.

Having 10kw more and 100kg heavier dosnt allow for it to run circles around the 2lt :thumbs:

 

[Sankekur]

I thought diesels where supposed to be fast?

When you do these tests back to back figures do not lie. What i can say is the 330d does it's figures in a very relaxed way, seemingly witout effort, whereas the 328i has to work very hard. Hope that makes sense.

I think I understand.

Both being turbocharged I would have expected a 3l to run circles around a 2l.

Having 10kw more and 100kg heavier dosnt allow for it to run circles around the 2lt :thumbs:

And not even having a 210N.m torque advantage can make up for this weight difference?


From these results it would almost seem like having loads of torque in the lower end of the rev range adds no real usable performance gain for a passenger car.

 

[phantom]

Anyone know what an F30 330d makes on the wheels?

http://www.bmwfanatics.co.za/showthread.php?tid=58593
See where you are going here Max.I see at the Dyno day your car made 173kw at the wheels.
My standard F30 330d in 2013 made 159kw at the wheels and after the BMW ppk2 kit 168kw.
It's power at the wheels at the end of the day that count and not claimed engine power output.
This comparison plus the lighter weight of the 328i make perfect sense why the 328i would be slightly quicker. :thumbs:

 

[Andy1GP]

Joe I think some muti mix needs to be put into the 330d along with 500ppm and a rerun tested Only fair since the 328i got 10% eth mix in it.

 

[Rayzor]

I thought diesels where supposed to be fast?

When you do these tests back to back figures do not lie. What i can say is the 330d does it's figures in a very relaxed way, seemingly witout effort, whereas the 328i has to work very hard. Hope that makes sense.

I think I understand.

Both being turbocharged I would have expected a 3l to run circles around a 2l.

Having 10kw more and 100kg heavier dosnt allow for it to run circles around the 2lt :thumbs:

And not even having a 210N.m torque advantage can make up for this weight difference?


From these results it would almost seem like having loads of torque in the lower end of the rev range adds no real usable performance gain for a passenger car.

On paper these cars run very similar 0-100km/h times
the 10% eth in the 328 is going to give it more of an edge :idea:

 

[Gbmw]

Good comparisons, also good question and response to Max there. :thumbs:

 

[Derrick125]

I think both are extremely impressive.
As has been mentioned, they make their power in different ways.
D isn't meant to be racy in the same way as a petrol - still; I have a soft spot for diesel torque.

Given the choice I'd side with the 330d.

 

[4cefed6]

:thumbs: Some interesting results. I would've thought the 330d the faster of the two!

+1:thumbs: