F30 320i vs f30 328i

[Sirhan]

buy a 320i and change the badge to a 328i :flyfun:

Well not so much rebadging but affordability at purchase and when pocket allows upping performance

lol :rollsmile:... just messing around .... i would go for the 328 if budget allows. lower compression = potentially higher performance gains.

 

[Gbmw]

agreed !!

*sorry for the partial hijack of thread * :=):

 

[M3KW]

Go for what you can afford

 

[Freddy G]

Hi- sorry for the late response.

I have seen a 320 tuned to 200 kw - only software
According to the tuner the 320 & 328 are identical - it's just mapping of the software is different.

 

[Rolf]

Santa said the same as well as the Easter Bunny

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[Chavoos]

Have a look at what burgertuning are doing with both cars . 266bhp on the 320i and 268bhp on the 328i
Higher torque on the 328i

http://www.burgertuning.com/N20_Jb4.html


In the next link you will see thay Terry believes the motors are very similar and it appears that bmw have done this as a marketing tactic.
Check the dynos, logs and read all comments .

http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19987&highlight=328i+320i

Here's a pic of the different pistons. They appear very similar

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[S1NGH 001]

Also seen a F30 320i, 200kw, software only and it pulls strong :joy:

From 2013 onwards 320i and 328i share the same internals :thumbs:

 

[Gordvisr]

Quite an interesting topic.

Been to a dealer over the weekend to look at the F30 328i and this idiot tries to sell me a 320d because, and I quote:

"performance is the same"
"there is no need for the extra kw power"
"why spend the extra money on something that you not going to use"

And the more I trying to tell him this is what I want, the more he explains that he's trying to save me money.

This is bull, you want mos what you want, it's mos your money :rollsmile:

 

[WMD]

Hey Guys, check out my latest video of my F30 320i

Regards
W

 

[Naruto]

Hey Guys, check out my latest video of my F30 320i

Regards
W

Nice!!!
What mods have you done to your ride?

 

[Dirtydeedsman]

Hey Guys, check out my latest video of my F30 320i

Regards
W

Nice, didn't know the F30 also goes Vrrrrr Pah :roflol:

 

[Naruto]

Hey Guys, check out my latest video of my F30 320i

Regards
W

Nice, didn't know the F30 also goes Vrrrrr Pah :roflol:

:roflol:

 

[Sabretooth tiger]

Hey Guys, check out my latest video of my F30 320i

Regards
W

Nice, didn't know the F30 also goes Vrrrrr Pah :roflol:

:roflol::biglol:

 

[Gbmw]

Nice vid WMD, car sounds and looks great


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[TurboLlew]

I regularly ride in a 320i that makes over 185wkw depending on which dyno is to be believed. This is with the stage 2 N20 burger tuning piggyback. It isn't close to its limit stock. Car has been going over 55000km in this configuration without ill effects mechanically. Fuel consumption is still not bad. No increase in oil consumption etc. 2.0T Direct injection motors can run on pump fuel at these levels with no issue - even port injection motors can.

Pistons can have the same diameter and depending on where the wrist pin connects and differences in machining of the tops can have a TOTALLY different CR. The CR can also be influenced by head volumes, head gasket thickness and even that doesn't tell the full picture, because the low friction skirt coatings can also be different, different materials (eg Silicon content, forged vs. hypereutectic vs. cast), weights and balancing could be to a different tolerance. Picture of a piston top says nothing. If you want to work on a high flow, high boost setup, bigger turbo etc etc. then sure, the 328i will be better with a lower CR (as published in technical material - so I asssume this has to go beyond just marketing BS), but who is really going to go that big on a 32xi? Especially when using race gas means BMW are even asking for downpipes and tank samples to be sent to HQ for analysis to see what fuel is being used.

We are getting into quite a technical discussion here somewhat unnecessarily. 320i with a tune can be a fun daily car. 328i without a tune can be a fun daily car. If you want a real powerhouse rather go and buy one or start off a different platform especially if you are buying a new car.

 

[cOlDFuSiOn]

I like it, sounds good! Cool car man :coolShake::rollsmile::cartel:

 

[325iSmk2]

I regularly ride in a 320i that makes over 185wkw depending on which dyno is to be believed. This is with the stage 2 N20 burger tuning piggyback. It isn't close to its limit stock. Car has been going over 55000km in this configuration without ill effects mechanically. Fuel consumption is still not bad. No increase in oil consumption etc. 2.0T Direct injection motors can run on pump fuel at these levels with no issue - even port injection motors can.

Pistons can have the same diameter and depending on where the wrist pin connects and differences in machining of the tops can have a TOTALLY different CR. The CR can also be influenced by head volumes, head gasket thickness and even that doesn't tell the full picture, because the low friction skirt coatings can also be different, different materials (eg Silicon content, forged vs. hypereutectic vs. cast), weights and balancing could be to a different tolerance. Picture of a piston top says nothing. If you want to work on a high flow, high boost setup, bigger turbo etc etc. then sure, the 328i will be better with a lower CR (as published in technical material - so I asssume this has to go beyond just marketing BS), but who is really going to go that big on a 32xi? Especially when using race gas means BMW are even asking for downpipes and tank samples to be sent to HQ for analysis to see what fuel is being used.

We are getting into quite a technical discussion here somewhat unnecessarily. 320i with a tune can be a fun daily car. 328i without a tune can be a fun daily car. If you want a real powerhouse rather go and buy one or start off a different platform especially if you are buying a new car.

Top post as usual Llew.

 

[ASH]

but they mos so big these days, they don't offer the fun of 3's of old..........

& the older ones had that solid and weighty feel of a big engined vehicle

E36 328i E46 330i those were awesome machines...........:blueCry:

 

[kili1]

How different is the 2012 BMW 320i F30 to the 2013 BMW 320i F30?

Sorry getting confused because why would they change it so quickly?


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[DieharD]

How different is the 2012 BMW 320i F30 to the 2013 BMW 320i F30?

Sorry getting confused because why would they change it so quickly?


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The engine is the same F30.