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F30 320I or 320D? And why?
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Tareeq said:
Yeah, ok...but...then the BMW 320 series are actually luxury sedans. If you like "revving" you should be going for something like the AUDI TT, or BMW Z4...
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If you are a peformance junkie and can afford it, and don't care much about economy, then 335i, I suppose.
But if you look at the 320i vs 320d....
Then:
320d Consumption: 4.5 l/100km
320i Consumption: 6.1 l/100km
((6,1/4,5)*100)-100 = 35,5% !!
Consider an average of 20 000 km of driving, which is what most people do in a year (at least):
The i will use 20000/(100/6.1) = 1219 litres of petrol, costing 1219 x 13.08 = R15944.52
The d will use 20000/(100/4.5) = 900 litres of diesel costing 900 x 12.66 = R11 394.00
(The above obviously depends on driving habits, and of course, lots of people drive more. so then economy plays an even bigger role)
So, you are forking out R4 550 for a bit of "revving" which is not getting you to your destination any quicker.
But hey...what ever rocks your boat...
Vicus said:
R12.66! That's nice and cheap. Where do you pay that?
I filled up 2 days ago and 95 was R13.28 and 50 diesel was R13.78.
320i @20k km = R16 200
320d @20k km = R12 400
But there's the greatest thing - as the fuel price goes up, the 320d saves more money.
In a drag race I would put my money down on the 320d winning. Quarter mile, half mile, mile, rolling from 50. Doesn't matter what those specs say. I've driven a 320i and I've read the tests. I drove an E90 323i and that felt faster.
Also, 4.5 combined for the 320d is a lot more feasible than 6.1 is for the 320i! Is there anyone here who owns a 320i and can better 6.0 on the highway at normal speed?
Some tests:
Autoweek (7.8s)
Car (8.11s)
Iol (7.9s)
Sabretooth tiger
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and at some point, some discussions become pointless, its all about preference.........
Mrcloc said:
Agreed, thanks for fixing my mistake with the price of fuel.
As far as the rest goes, I agree with you. I was just being conservative for the sake of the 320i fans. :rollsmile:
As far as the actual consumption figures are concerned, the figures quoted by the manufacturers are as expected always somewhat optimistic. You can actually achieve it, but you really need to drive like a granny on valium, which is not practical, or realistic.
What would be the point of having 135kw under the bonnet if you never get to use it ? And obviously, a lot depends on how much town driving you do vs. highway.
But for most people somewhere between 5,4 - and 6 l/100 km would be what they get. I drive my 320d briskly, and tend to be a bit heavy on the foot even on the highway, and I get 5,8 l/100 km, with about 70% of my driving in town.
The 320i would be between 7.5 and 8,5 which in all honesty is great going for a petrol car, it just still does not get close to the diesel.
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MFR786 said:
must have been a E90 320i and not a F30 320i, they worlds apart
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Vicus said:
But do the fuel savings of the 320d justify the much higher price over the 320i.
e.g Brand new 320i Sportline (std model) - R419,100
Brand new 320d Sprtline (std model) - R448,100
That's a R29,000 difference which can never be made up on fuel savings alone over the life of the 320d.
In reality, I guess there are other components that make up that price differential e.g the higher torque of the 320d.
As for me, I just want the F30 320d and I'm getting close :inlove:! Nothing will change my mind now...nothing I say!
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MFR786 said:
You cant class them the same, yes they both badged as 320i, but the one is a 110kw 2l 4cylinder n/a. The other is a 135kw 2l 4cylinder turbo.
You don't get a F30 318, but a F30 316i (100kw), and its no where near as powerful as a F30 320i.
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Iceman007 said:
+1 :thumbs:
Iceman007 said:
Blah, then driver skill enters into the thing. The most reliable source is road test results by CAR magazine. I don't have them, maybe someone can post them here.
I'm pretty satisfied that there is little to choose as far as pure performance is concerned, actually.
- Most of those who think the "i" is quicker, just suffer from the old an outdated "picture/concept" they still have in their heads instilled by the older generation diesels, and most have never bothered to test or drive the 135kw version. I suggest they do.
- Most of those who think the d is quicker still have the E90 in their heads, and do not fully realize/understand that he new F30 320i is a totally different animal.
In the end they will get from A to B in pretty much the same time, and at the same cost, as the "d"'s purchase price is more expensive, but the "i" is heavier on fuel.
In the end..it is about "feel", I guess,
- Some, like me prefer the "effortless" feel of the "d" especially when overtaking, etc.
- Some prefer the "sporty" feel of the high revving turbo of the "i"
