Excessive tire wear on 335i

dlk001

Member
Hi guys,

I just heard its not uncommon to have excessive wear on the inside edge of the rear tires. Apparently it might be a problem with negative camber. Has anyone experienced this?

Both my rear tires have 50% thread left but the inside edges are warn out to a point where one tire is leaking air. I'm now driving on a flat tire. I been phoning around and struggling to get stock for 255/30/19Y. The story varies from a few days to mid June. The few places that can provide me a tire during this week are unfortunately the most expensive and they stock Bridgestones only.
 
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anile8-zn

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i know that on my 335i the tyres wore the same way
it was due to the run flats in my case , which wore in that pattern
 

Hellas

///Member
That is the sad truth about BMW's camber. I have the same problem on my E46. Brining the camber back might help on the wear, but compromise handling. Regular rotation of the tyres can also help in this regard, but the if you have a staggered setup, there is not much you can do then.
 

andrewbuch

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HELLAS said:
That is the sad truth about BMW's camber. I have the same problem on my E46. Brining the camber back might help on the wear, but compromise handling. Regular rotation of the tyres can also help in this regard, but the if you have a staggered setup, there is not much you can do then.


Cant you rotate the rears by getting them taken off the rim & put on the correct direction for the other side, or are the tires specifically for left or the right?
 

dlk001

Member
andrewbuch said:
HELLAS said:
That is the sad truth about BMW's camber. I have the same problem on my E46. Brining the camber back might help on the wear, but compromise handling. Regular rotation of the tyres can also help in this regard, but the if you have a staggered setup, there is not much you can do then.


Cant you rotate the rears by getting them taken off the rim & put on the correct direction for the other side, or are the tires specifically for left or the right?

Mmmm. thats a good question. I hope someone can help us answer this.
 

netercol

New member
Cant you rotate the rears by getting them taken off the rim & put on the correct direction for the other side, or are the tires specifically for left or the right

you can reverse them on the rim if they are non directional, but if they are directional then you're stuffed :dunno:
 

dlk001

Member
HELLAS said:
That is the sad truth about BMW's camber. I have the same problem on my E46. Brining the camber back might help on the wear, but compromise handling. Regular rotation of the tyres can also help in this regard, but the if you have a staggered setup, there is not much you can do then.

Yeah I unfortunately have mixed tire setup. This peace of mind of BMW runflats is negated the by limited and expensive cost of replacing them. I'm now desperate to replace my tires. Its no longer a case of shopping around for a reasonable price and brand, its a case of finding a place that stocks the tire. SAD!!
 

Laigo

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netercol said:
you can reverse them on the rim if they are non directional, but if they are directional then you're stuffed :dunno:

Why you say so? You will keep the direction of the tyre, just swap sides (i.e. swap tyres between rims) So left rim will now have right side tyre, and vice versa, so the previously inside worn part will be on the outside. Good plan
 

freerider

Honorary ///Member
hellas have a look at your tyres, most performance tyres are directional and need to be a certain way on the rim, denoted by a label that says "outside" on the tyre, which would end up being inside if you changed the tyres on the rims
 

Laigo

///Member
freerider said:
hellas have a look at your tyres, most performance tyres are directional and need to be a certain way on the rim, denoted by a label that says "outside" on the tyre, which would end up being inside if you changed the tyres on the rims

That would mean the side walls are not symmetrical? :dunno:
 

StK

New member
Its a very common problem with run-flats especially so with the 6 series cars.You can adjust the camber and also stick on non run flats but make sure it doesn't affect your motor plan if you do.Alas the stiff wall of run-flats are much the cause of this problem but apparently BMW are working this out with next generation run-flats which are said to be better.Many people here(UK) have stuck on non-run-flats due to cracked alloys...especially so with the 19" ones.
 

kabal

Active member
guess it depends on the tire??

some just say "direction of rotation" and then it would seem you could swap the left and right tire on the right and left rim.

however, tires like Conti SC2, they say outside and inside, so if you kept with this, and put the outside, on the outside, the tire would just be rotating in the opposite direction, but the worn tread would still be in the same place


:dunno:
 

applehero

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Apparently, you should change your rims too. I spoke to a knowledgeable guy from TWT, something about the lip on the rim being different for rf and non rf rims. There's a danger of the tyre coming off the rim.

Disclaimer
***This is second hand info, but does make sense***
 

Hellas

///Member
applehero said:
Apparently, you should change your rims too. I spoke to a knowledgeable guy from TWT, something about the lip on the rim being different for rf and non rf rims. There's a danger of the tyre coming off the rim.

Disclaimer
***This is second hand info, but does make sense***

:thinking: Been running RF and normal tyres on all types of rims (eg. rims that were made before RF's came out and 'newer generation' rims) The BMW OEM rims that I used are exactly the same.
 

applehero

///Member
HELLAS said:
applehero said:
Apparently, you should change your rims too. I spoke to a knowledgeable guy from TWT, something about the lip on the rim being different for rf and non rf rims. There's a danger of the tyre coming off the rim.

Disclaimer
***This is second hand info, but does make sense***

:thinking: Been running RF and normal tyres on all types of rims (eg. rims that were made before RF's came out and 'newer generation' rims) The BMW OEM rims that I used are exactly the same.

The weird thing was, he was adamant that normal tyres shouldn't be put on run flat rims. To the point where he was turning me away from his business
 

Baracus

New member
dlk001 said:
Yeah I unfortunately have mixed tire setup. This peace of mind of BMW runflats is negated the by limited and expensive cost of replacing them. I'm now desperate to replace my tires. Its no longer a case of shopping around for a reasonable price and brand, its a case of finding a place that stocks the tire. SAD!!
you can try these guys: NAZ KAR Performance Wheel & Tyre CC, Nazeer Cell – +27 (0)76 962 9786 / +27 (0)84 523 5949 , they in Lens. Coincidently got an email today about them having a clearance sale on Bridgestone run flats so they should have stock.
 

StK

New member
applehero said:
HELLAS said:
applehero said:
Apparently, you should change your rims too. I spoke to a knowledgeable guy from TWT, something about the lip on the rim being different for rf and non rf rims. There's a danger of the tyre coming off the rim.

Disclaimer
***This is second hand info, but does make sense***

:thinking: Been running RF and normal tyres on all types of rims (eg. rims that were made before RF's came out and 'newer generation' rims) The BMW OEM rims that I used are exactly the same.

The weird thing was, he was adamant that normal tyres shouldn't be put on run flat rims. To the point where he was turning me away from his business

Thats his loss...Plenty of people I know have put non run flats on their ryms without problems :thumbsup:
 

dlk001

Member
Baracus said:
dlk001 said:
Yeah I unfortunately have mixed tire setup. This peace of mind of BMW runflats is negated the by limited and expensive cost of replacing them. I'm now desperate to replace my tires. Its no longer a case of shopping around for a reasonable price and brand, its a case of finding a place that stocks the tire. SAD!!
you can try these guys: NAZ KAR Performance Wheel & Tyre CC, Nazeer Cell – +27 (0)76 962 9786 / +27 (0)84 523 5949 , they in Lens. Coincidently got an email today about them having a clearance sale on Bridgestone run flats so they should have stock.

Thanks buddy. Will give them a call tomorrow morning.
 

DNS

Member
on my ex 07 320d i had runflats but changed to normal tyres,the tire wear is the same

if u guys decide to go normal tyre route which i prefer u can buy the spare wheel kit from bmw which u can throw in ur boot:thumbsup:
 

Kisho135i

New member
Use normal tyres, 235-35-19 for the front and 265-30-19 for the back. Falken 452 is a good tyre for a good price. Go to bmw and get a spare wheel kit for e9x
 
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