E92 M3 or 435

[Spiro]

Errrrrrrrmmm...... /////MMMMMM



:thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:

 

[BeamerMan]

A Fully Spec'd 435 can surely get you an almost brand new M3 Competition Pack?

I have never driven either so I cannot say but the M is obviously going to be better.

Just get the M4 :thumbs:

 

[mcajee]

definately the M power

 

[Bradon]

This is a no brainer,, M all the way :bangdesk:

 

[Theo D]

///M raise:

 

[prospect]

E93 M3 :fencelook:

 

[M-power]

M-Power:inlove:

 

[dino_rox]

 

[M3KW]

M FTW. The 4 is nice but then you'll never hear that V8 scream

 

[sunnyj]

E92 M3 for sure :thumbs:. Don't get why BMW dropped the V8, after all they use a turbo'd V8 in the M5 & M6.Surely they could have further developed the engine in the E92 M3

M3 is not allowed to be faster than the M5! :fencelook:

:///M-power for sure.
The 4 series is quite boring if you ask me.

I get what you saying Rommies but what I mean is surely the engine could have got bored out to say 4.2L NA and power bumped up to about 450bhp which is well less than what the M5's & M6's are pushing out. I guess other factors must have played a vital roll viz. fuel economy & emissions.

 

[AdiS]

Yea. I've been chewing on this for a while now.
Thanks for the response guys. I'm also leaning towards the //M.
I'm planning to test drive a 435 just for reference, will post my experience.


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If you drive both cars you will very quickly see that they are quite different. While I have not driven the 435i, all reports from credible sources point to it being competent and polished to the point of it being boring. This generally happens when a car is simply too competent and refined, and also the result of the engine used as well. It's a good car no doubt, but it almost certainly won't ever deliver any kind of excitement. I would choose this if you want to be subtle, comfortable and refined.

An E92 M3 on the other hand has been hailed as the best all rounder in its class for years simply due to its ability to deliver both a refined daily driver, as well as an exciting and engaging drive. For me, vehicle ownership is about satisfying those two, but with a bias towards driver excitement and engagement.

When you drive it fast, you should feel like something is actually happening (screaming engine, feedback from the steering and suspension, lightning throttle response, etc). An M3 will deliver this in a way a 435i could never hope to, and that is just a fact. Plus, it's the last naturally aspirated (and only V8) M3, which is something special. They will be making highly commoditised turbo coupes like the 435i for years to come, so for me, it's the M3.

 

[Crash_Nemesis]

The M cos it's the first and last V8! But then again, that's if you're gonna hold into it for a while

Not true.

e46 M3 had a small production line of V8 versions called the M3 GTR Street. Which was made because for the e46 M3 GTR racecar to compete in the ALMS, the car needed to have a production car that could be sold to the public. To my knowledge, as little as ten were made to allow the Race Version to compete. The engine, named P60B40 a 3,997 cc V8 produced 493 hp (368 kW; 500 PS), although it was toned down for the street version due to emissions and noise laws.

:fencelook:

 

[prospect]

First one is hot but the other two look boring

M3 FTW!

 

[mkot9]

I would go for the 4 series its not better looking, faster or anything close to the m3 but the crap has been driven out of any secon hand m3 and to drive a new car is always better than a second hand one

 

[Paul Phoenix]

As promised I went to test drive the 435. First and foremost I really loved the look of the car. There's something very modern about the design. Seeing it in the metal next to a 335 really gives one an appreciation for how much lower and bigger it is than the 335. That said even with M-sport kit it didn't get my heart racing.Don't get me wrong it is a very nice looking car. Very elegant. The one thing that I kept thinking when we finally got going was just how quiet the cabin was. You are really hard pressed to hear the motor. Only once you start pushing it can you hear a bit of engine noise, but it's very reserved.

As far as speed is concerned this car is plenty fast. That said the auto box didn't add anything to the thrill of driving the car. Up shifts where fast, almost DCT like. That said I would have taken a manual. (But that option doesn't exist)

The ride was very soft, almost too soft. I would have liked it if it felt a little bit more planted at speed, but it felt more like we where floating than hugging the road. I guess one has to remember this is a GT car and not a sports car.

After everything was said and done I couldn't stop thinking that this car should just have been a little bit more exiting. Maybe when BM decides to give it the same power as the 135 it could sort things out.

 

[ASH]

///M DCT with ZCP in white..............raise:

 

[LukeS2K]

As promised I went to test drive the 435. First and foremost I really loved the look of the car. There's something very modern about the design. Seeing it in the metal next to a 335 really gives one an appreciation for how much lower and bigger it is than the 335. That said even with M-sport kit it didn't get my heart racing.Don't get me wrong it is a very nice looking car. Very elegant. The one thing that I kept thinking when we finally got going was just how quiet the cabin was. You are really hard pressed to hear the motor. Only once you start pushing it can you hear a bit of engine noise, but it's very reserved.

As far as speed is concerned this car is plenty fast. That said the auto box didn't add anything to the thrill of driving the car. Up shifts where fast, almost DCT like. That said I would have taken a manual. (But that option doesn't exist)

The ride was very soft, almost too soft. I would have liked it if it felt a little bit more planted at speed, but it felt more like we where floating than hugging the road. I guess one has to remember this is a GT car and not a sports car.

After everything was said and done I couldn't stop thinking that this car should just have been a little bit more exiting. Maybe when BM decides to give it the same power as the 135 it could sort things out.

The 235i will be stiffer and sportier and will probably be more up your ally. The 435i is more for cruising and the occassional burst here and there.

For me personally I dont like the new 4 series at all. Looks crap. I prefer my E92 shape.

 

[fhm1]

So If you had the option which one would you take. Fully spec'd 435 m-sport or second hand M3?


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Definitley M3.

 

[SP33DYV]

As promised I went to test drive the 435. First and foremost I really loved the look of the car. There's something very modern about the design. Seeing it in the metal next to a 335 really gives one an appreciation for how much lower and bigger it is than the 335. That said even with M-sport kit it didn't get my heart racing.Don't get me wrong it is a very nice looking car. Very elegant. The one thing that I kept thinking when we finally got going was just how quiet the cabin was. You are really hard pressed to hear the motor. Only once you start pushing it can you hear a bit of engine noise, but it's very reserved.

As far as speed is concerned this car is plenty fast. That said the auto box didn't add anything to the thrill of driving the car. Up shifts where fast, almost DCT like. That said I would have taken a manual. (But that option doesn't exist)

The ride was very soft, almost too soft. I would have liked it if it felt a little bit more planted at speed, but it felt more like we where floating than hugging the road. I guess one has to remember this is a GT car and not a sports car.

After everything was said and done I couldn't stop thinking that this car should just have been a little bit more exiting. Maybe when BM decides to give it the same power as the 135 it could sort things out.

The 235i will be stiffer and sportier and will probably be more up your ally. The 435i is more for cruising and the occassional burst here and there.

For me personally I dont like the new 4 series at all. Looks crap. I prefer my E92 shape.

And the M235i will have an LS diff' as an option. :idea:

M3 for me though.

 

[LukeS2K]

M3 V8 is a far better all round performer. But you have to ask yourself how pissed will you get when the 35I's come flying past you(Im assuming you at the reef). If that doesnt bother you then definately get the M3.