E46 M3 record at altitude

[anile8-zn]

thanks man , already done 13.2 on the same stretch u did a 13.2 (with a stock car) just like mine
i dont think i am in any danger of doing a 14.0 flat
your thinly veiled insult concerning frc really is getting old.
after all u hold all the records , why the need to be so insecure?

 

[Sherwin@xcede]

I think you'll find things just a tad different at the track. Just a tad. And this has nothing to do with FRC. I'm sure they are optimising your airflow & rev-limiter just fine

 

[anile8-zn]

ok so i gather from your posts here and on the carforums site that
1. my m3 is slow ?
2.my driving is bad?
3.living in jhb makes u presumptuous ?
mmm, pretty much certain its not number 1 .
must be 2 or 3. and since u have never seen me drive ...............that sort of rules out 2 .
well lets find out soon , hell the margate drag is around the corner , wonder how many 14 second runs i will have there:clap:

 

[Sherwin@xcede]

Well, it's not as easy as you think to rock up at the track and run a time. We've all been there and had days when we couldn't run a time. Didn't you run 14 dead with your chipped 335 at sea-level? And it's faster than your M3. You see what I'm saying?

 

[anile8-zn]

no i ran a 13.9 on a damp track .
and couldnt get another clean run as we only got there at 3pm due to a friends car breaking.

so your theory is based around me having a bad day at the track?
some would call that theory strange , but after dealing with you for a while its perfectly plausible that you actually believe that.
bad days implies it happens once in a while , man u really buggered if i go to 2 or 3 differnet events , law of averages say i should sneak a good day in somewhere.

 

[Scouse]

Sherwin, if i win something in this competition that im currently lying 2nd place in, i will need to be simba chipped please

 

[Sherwin@xcede]

no i ran a 13.9 on a damp track .
and couldnt get another clean run as we only got there at 3pm due to a friends car breaking.

Let me prove you wrong sonny. You had 3 runs, one at 14:10 and one at 15:08:

2009/04/26 14:10 KZN Right Lane 6B40, OSCAR MATTHE 13.922 175.23 1.814 NO
2009/04/26 15:08 KZN Left Lane 6B40, OSCAR MATTHE 14.329 173.44 1.236 NO
2009/04/26 10:01 KZN Left Lane 6B40, OSCAR MATTHE 14.813 160.77 0.867 NO


Cleo ran his best time of the day at 15:06. As did Komlin, as did Mahen, as did a lot of other guys. C'mon enough man. Stop with this damp track excuse. Cleo ran 12's with semi's on a damp track. Hell they don't even race if the track is damp.

2009/04/26 15:06 KZN Left Lane 6A31, CLEO MOODLEY 12.97 174.69 0.633 NO
2009/04/26 12:35 KZN Left Lane 6A31, CLEO MOODLEY 13.055 174.44 0.556 NO
2009/04/26 13:38 KZN Left Lane 6A31, CLEO MOODLEY 13.075 174.9 0.69 NO
2009/04/26 11:10 KZN Left Lane 6A31, CLEO MOODLEY 13.226 172.99 0.494 NO
2009/04/26 09:50 KZN Left Lane 6A31, CLEO MOODLEY 13.276 173.24 0.637 NO

2009/04/26 14:11 KZN Left Lane 6A51, MAHEN MOHANL 13.331 170.49 0.931 NO
2009/04/26 13:28 KZN Left Lane 6A51, MAHEN MOHANL 13.387 170.61 0.861 NO
2009/04/26 15:13 KZN Right Lane 6A51, MAHEN MOHANL 13.488 167.21 0.729 NO
2009/04/26 14:57 KZN Right Lane 6A51, MAHEN MOHANL 13.572 170.89 0.678 NO
2009/04/26 12:33 KZN Right Lane 6A51, MAHEN MOHANL 13.457 166.71 0 YES

Komlin has a C32. It's also 6 cyl forced induction, it's also auto. It also ran in the "damp" between 14h00 and 15h00 and he ran 13.6's which equals his best time in the damp

2009/04/26 14:00 KZN Left Lane 6B09, KOMLIN NAIDO 13.652 169.93 0.727 NO
2009/04/26 15:09 KZN Right Lane 6B09, KOMLIN NAIDO 13.66 169.62 0.825 NO
Looks like the "damp" didn't affect him.

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Oscar, I found a big horsepower 6B car trapping over 190. Looks like he ran his best time around the same time of day you ran your best time. In fact most people ran their best times then:

2009/04/26 14:47 KZN Left Lane 6B38, ADHISH RAMDE 12.364 191.54 0.683 NO
2009/04/26 13:29 KZN Left Lane 6B38, ADHISH RAMDE 12.596 193.01 0.616 NO
2009/04/26 11:38 KZN Right Lane 6B38, ADHISH RAMDE 13.012 190.49 1.025 NO
2009/04/26 10:08 KZN Right Lane 6B38, ADHISH RAMDE 16.031 94.8 1.033 NO

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GODDAMIT. A 10 second member ran a good time at 15h00. Must have had some typhoon wet weather intermediates. hehehee

2009/04/26 15:00 KZN Left Lane B05, RUDI VD MERW 10.149 219.32 0.668 NO
2009/04/26 13:52 KZN Left Lane B05, RUDI VD MERW 10.23 218.4 0.635 NO
2009/04/26 11:26 KZN Left Lane B05, RUDI VD MERW 10.278 225.2 0.683 NO
2009/04/26 09:57 KZN Left Lane B05, RUDI VD MERW 10.305 226.95 0.71 NO
2009/04/26 15:03 KZN Left Lane B05, RUDI VD MERW 10.346 218.33 0.526 NO
2009/04/26 14:02 KZN Left Lane B05, RUDI VD MERW 10.388 224.16 0.677 NO
2009/04/26 11:28 KZN Left Lane B05, RUDI VD MERW 10.414 224.37 0.668 NO
2009/04/26 13:00 KZN Left Lane B05, RUDI VD MERW 10.535 220.77 0.694 NO
2009/04/26 13:55 KZN Left Lane B05, RUDI VD MERW 10.672 216.59 0.47 NO
2009/04/26 09:55 KZN Left Lane B05, RUDI VD MERW 10.807 222.25 0.782 NO

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HOLY SMOKE batman! A 9 second member ran his best time at 15h00. Traction must have been smoking in the wet:

2009/04/26 15:00 KZN Right Lane B06, FAIZ MANSOOR 9.717 238.04 0.699 NO
2009/04/26 15:04 KZN Left Lane B06, FAIZ MANSOOR 9.742 232.14 0.524 NO
2009/04/26 13:55 KZN Right Lane B06, FAIZ MANSOOR 9.766 231.92 0.47 NO
2009/04/26 11:25 KZN Left Lane B06, FAIZ MANSOOR 9.797 232.51 0.533 NO
2009/04/26 13:00 KZN Right Lane B06, FAIZ MANSOOR 9.816 236.42 0.488 NO
2009/04/26 12:58 KZN Right Lane B06, FAIZ MANSOOR 9.861 232.81 0.672 NO
2009/04/26 13:50 KZN Right Lane B06, FAIZ MANSOOR 9.867 236.27 0.699 NO
2009/04/26 09:57 KZN Right Lane B06, FAIZ MANSOOR 9.98 239.05 0.536 NO
2009/04/26 09:53 KZN Right Lane B06, FAIZ MANSOOR 10.551 229.87 0.576 NO
2009/04/26 13:53 KZN Right Lane B06, FAIZ MANSOOR 11.433 141.47 0.555 NO

 

[anile8-zn]

Sorry bro u fail again . The results show me running at 10 am .
And I only did 2 runs . So clearly the time of day is wrong on these results.
I wasn't even at the track when Cleo did his 12.
And I said the track was damp , it was a mixture of rain and the puddles of water in my lane left by the guy who ran in front of me .
The second run I forgot the traction control was on.
Like u said bad day and all.
I have like 40 guys with us that day , all of whom stopped to help us when my bras car was stuck they can vouch for the time and conditions I had to run in.
Second hand info ftl

 

[Sherwin@xcede]

Sherwin, if i win something in this competition that im currently lying 2nd place in, i will need to be simba chipped please

No problem, I'm here all week. :clap:

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Sorry bro u fail again . The results show me running at 10 am .
And I only did 2 runs . So clearly the time of day is wrong on these results.
I wasn't even at the track when Cleo did his 12.
And I said the track was damp , it was a mixture of rain and the puddles of water in my lane left by the guy who ran in front of me .
The second run I forgot the traction control was on.
Like u said bad day and all.
I have like 40 guys with us that day , all of whom stopped to help us when my bras car was stuck they can vouch for the time and conditions I had to run in.
Second hand info ftl

Ok it's a conspiracy and the times are all wrong then. Cmon all those guys ran on the same day as you, and they all ran their best times in the afternoon. The didn't miraculously run in better conditions as you. Cleo ran 12's in the afternoon, after 3pm. This is a fact. All those othet cars ran their best times in the afternoon.

Look how ridiculous you sound blaming the time of the track. Who cares what time it is. The point is they all ran after the rain (whatever time the clock showed) and they all ran their best times. It's not like their was some "hidden" window when they all snuck hundreds of runs in and you happened to miss out.

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Sorry bro u fail again . The results show me running at 10 am .
And I only did 2 runs . So clearly the time of day is wrong on these results.

So the time of day is wrong for EVERYBODY's times because of your 1 run. Your other 2 runs are the right time. Was there some "secret time" when you weren't there, when everyone else was making hay? And then all the times for everyone's runs was rigged? WTF? You must have been the only one on the track at that time then. Poor you, they really messed you around.

 

[anile8-zn]

Now u getting it

 

[Sherwin@xcede]

Now u getting it

I get it, in the space of a 1 day event which had 555 runs for the day with a start time of 09h00 and an end time of 15h20, you got the raw end of the deal? Looks like you lined up with Aslam Seedat at 15:08. He ran his best time of the day in the lane next to you on the same run! His best time of the DAY!

2009/04/26 15:08 KZN Right Lane 4S12, ASLAM SEEDAT 12.973 168.91 1.091 NO
2009/04/26 15:08 KZN Left Lane 6B40, OSCAR MATTHE 14.329 173.44 1.236 NO

2009/04/26 15:08 KZN Right Lane 4S12, ASLAM SEEDAT 12.973 168.91 1.091 NO
2009/04/26 14:12 KZN Right Lane 4S12, ASLAM SEEDAT 13.155 158.74 1.115 NO
2009/04/26 09:59 KZN Left Lane 4S12, ASLAM SEEDAT 13.194 166.87 0.854 NO
2009/04/26 09:08 KZN Right Lane 4S12, ASLAM SEEDAT 13.252 167.71 0.837 NO
2009/04/26 12:26 KZN Left Lane 4S12, ASLAM SEEDAT 13.83 165.32 1.189 NO


One minute later Komlin ran. His car is similar to yours in a way, and he ran his joint best time of the day at 15:09.

2009/04/26 15:09 KZN Left Lane 4AF57, DEON GOVENDER 17.014 122.63 0.785 NO
2009/04/26 15:09 KZN Right Lane 6B09, KOMLIN NAIDO 13.66 169.62 0.825 NO

Anyway, this is pointless. Let's agree to disagree. You can do your talking when you come up for the event. Good luck with the rev-limiter

 

[///M4LiFE]

My brothers stock z4 m made 322 on odr.

322hp is really impressive. And 13.5 is too! Ive seen modded Csl's making 315hp there.

Alot of money has been Spent and if the car didn't make alot more than stock it would be a shame .

Andre's magic is working well. Im really happy with the gains and it could be the biggest gain around with a NA S54 engine.

 

[anile8-zn]

I am sure it is . Not saying the car isn't making power , it's just that guys on this forum should know it takes alot more than just sw to get there .

@xpowe
u can quote times and dates , u weren't at the track and if I remeber correctly ,
k was doing high 13's with his dp's and sw.
I am not gonna waste my time digging up stats from the day .
See where I am going with this ? One event is no measure .
Especially with the circumstances on the day.
I bet u have 100 Reasons why he ran that bad time , like bald tyres and so on.
Also it bears mentioning no other 335 ran on the same day I did .
And all the cars u mentioned had slicks .
Also I seem to omit the part about me having to stage in a puddle of water .
Anycase I am sure this concept does not elude u , u are simply being pedantic

 

[Sherwin@xcede]

@xpowe
u can quote times and dates , u weren't at the track and if I remeber correctly ,
k was doing high 13's with his dp's and sw.
I am not gonna waste my time digging up stats from the day .
See where I am going with this ? One event is no measure .
Especially with the circumstances on the day.
I bet u have 100 Reasons why he ran that bad time , like bald tyres and so on.
Also it bears mentioning no other 335 ran on the same day I did .
And all the cars u mentioned had slicks .
Also I seem to omit the part about me having to stage in a puddle of water .
Anycase I am sure this concept does not elude u , u are simply being pedantic

Yeah Ok you right, I'm wrong. I give up.

But K ran 12.9 @ 180 at ODI with software only. On street tyres. And it was raining like cats and dogs.

Ask the Jhb members how K's 335 goes on the road. I think you can imagine how it goes if he trapped 180 at altitude with no downpiped. That's like 183-184 at sea-level.

Anyway, I concede, you win.

 

[STREETRACER]

It also made 338hp on the wheels at the ODR dyno day in Durban.

That is 250kw @ wheels!!! Hard to believe and nearly imposible if its N/A..

If it is will you mind to share a mod list???

Boet i see you are from JHB.. come race me @ ODI 2morrow!!!

Results from the Dyno Day at Old Dutch Racing in Durban:
6 CYLINDER N/A M3
338.2 RADESH BMW M3
311.0 MAHEN BMW M3
302.0 RAAZ BMW M3
300.6 JOEY BMW M3
294.5 LLEWELLYN BMW M3
267.0 KERSEN BMW M3
239.0 RICS BMW M3

Also u can contact Claude from Bimmerworks in Durban, made 255kw atw on his dyno too!

I raced Odi with SW only and ran 13.6 and 218km 1KM.

I ran a 13.6 at ODi today with my everyday street tyres and pump fuel! and i make 184KW... my dyno print is on the forum..

 

[Sherwin@xcede]

Well done bud, that's an awesome time!

 

[///M4LiFE]

It also made 338hp on the wheels at the ODR dyno day in Durban.

That is 250kw @ wheels!!! Hard to believe and nearly imposible if its N/A..

If it is will you mind to share a mod list???

Boet i see you are from JHB.. come race me @ ODI 2morrow!!!

Results from the Dyno Day at Old Dutch Racing in Durban:
6 CYLINDER N/A M3
338.2 RADESH BMW M3
311.0 MAHEN BMW M3
302.0 RAAZ BMW M3
300.6 JOEY BMW M3
294.5 LLEWELLYN BMW M3
267.0 KERSEN BMW M3
239.0 RICS BMW M3

Also u can contact Claude from Bimmerworks in Durban, made 255kw atw on his dyno too!

I raced Odi with SW only and ran 13.6 and 218km 1KM.

I ran a 13.6 at ODi today with my everyday street tyres and pump fuel! and i make 184KW... my dyno print is on the forum..

Well done. We never argued times. You said its impossible to make the pwr i am making.
And i ran 13.6 when i was making 190kw in Johannesburg. Anycase your time is very impressive and well done!

 

[STREETRACER]

shot thanks bud!! im just a sceptic when it comes to power!!
but 250kw is mofo strong and must feel absolutely sick in a N/A 6cylw BMW!!!
soz for being a d**s about it!!! would love to have a run agains you.. think it will be fun to measure my self to you big boys!!! Well done to the Z4M's today..
I make it my lifes mission to beat the track record there of 13.4 in our class! hopefully we can chase each other but think me and you are going to cost each other a lot of money in the feature.. LOL

 

[///M4LiFE]

Hey no probs bud...Always nice making new friends in the ///Mworld. Nice to set goals and work towards them. And us being big boys, dunno about that, end of the day we all learning and trying! Maybe one day we can meet and have a run, will be a good test.

 

[BonedM3]

i see all the usual suspects here, think my M isnt far from the strongest stock E46 M on Kar.

the car made 193kw atw 296nm stock and the same with software