E46 M3 *No longer Supercharged :)

Andy1GP

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Don't like dynos. The car generates a lot of heat and water temp tends to creep over the nominal after a run. Its rectified by keeping the engine speed up and water circulation high but id rather not mess around. It feels strong and thats all that matters :)

Another small update. Bought 3 fuel filters today. One for each M3. Fitted it to this one first. No difference to report. The previous one was actually replaced under plan. Date stamp was november 2011. Hardly any dirt came out the filter as well. Very impressed. Considering ive ran some ethanol through the system as well. (When i just got the car it was running rich)

Also to note i primed the car several times to check for fuel leaks and to get the filter full of fuel and the line pressurised. It took around 7 ignition cycles until i heard positive pressure in the filter. Cycled it 10 times just to be safe
 

Burgy

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Crash_Nemesis said:
Could have been that the spring on the HKS was set up for Turbo and Not supercharger. You need a softer spring for supercharger because of the difference in PSI delivered between the two types of compressors. The softer spring will allow the BOV to release sooner whilst the turbo hard spring will hold more pressure. If your BOV had a turbo spring, which is most probably did, it would of been the cause for it not releasing fast enough and thus building too much pressure in the intake which in turn ends up sending the air back towards the compressor.

Very well documented problem on M3forum with guys trying different style of BOVs on their supercharged e46's. The TialQ50 which I had was known for being too loud, so guys installed harder springs to lower to volume of the choo choo, but then started getting compressor surge.

Anyway, glad you got it sorted.

Another reason why there is a difference between the 2 bov's (harder and softer springs) is that an SC bov needs to be open on idle. At idle RPM, the sc is still producing pressure, The SC bov will remain open on idle where the turbo BOV will not.

The above: 1 SC type bov and 1 Turbo type bov was done intentionally. Enough pressure was being released on idle by the shitty bosch bov, but there was compressor surge (with only 1 bov). The bosch bov could not release enough pressure at high RPM. So at the time, to eliminate the comp surge, the HKS was added.

Keep in mind that at the time, the car was running 7psi and the HKS eliminated the comp surge problem.

Ill be the first to admit that the job was not perfect or near what I wanted, but we were running on a budget, and redesigning the intake system was not an option.
 

Andy1GP

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Its closer to 10psi now. A remap is in order :)

I'm building a much larger cooler tank for the charge cooler. Expecting to see 11 psi after everything is done. Makes sense that the car is running leaner and leaner with all the improvements :)
 

Andy1GP

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Quite a substantial update to post.

The car developed pinging a while back and I ended up parking it off until I could figure out what the root cause was.

After many hours of research, revised maps, troubleshooting and compression tests the diagnosis was collapsed head gasket.

Fortunately it was only the headgasket.

Today I successfully removed the S54 cylinder head and it was a fairly routine job. The car was quite a pleasure to work on and everything seems to be in good health bar the toast gasket.

Pics to follow from my phone via tapatalk...
 

Andy1GP

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The stripping commences

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Andy1GP

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Oh and i got her a new set of shoes :) with et20 offset all round

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Head finally off and gasket is finished as can be seen

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Compression between cyl 1 and 2 were 70 and 80 kpa

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Between 3 4 and 5 over 120 and 6 was 155

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Bear in mind i have not cleaned anything yet. Coolant still sprayed about etc. I think the motor looks pretty good. No Ridge on the sleeves and piston crowns look neat.

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Head ready for delivery to van der linde

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Alain

New member
NavZ said:
Don't you want to buy my Z4M...
Give it some TLC and sell it back to me? :roflol:


:roflol: Dude why do you think I swapped Andy , that Z4M of his was loved to death.


Andy my buddy you are a true Fanatic that car could not have gone to a better home :praise:
 

Nikhil

Honorary ///Member
Nice one! no signs of bore wash or detonation? and are you going to do some work to the head or keep it at stock spec? might as well do a bit of trick work while its out :hammerhead:
 

Gizmo

Banned
Are you fitting a stock thickness gasket or going for a thicker one to reduce compression slightly?
 

444YYY

Honorary ///Member
Nicely documented Andy!
Getting to know the S54 quite well now! Even though it's 'problem times' it's still great to pull apart such a piece of engineering. Well done.
 

sash

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Great work andy, to a simpleton like me, I cant exactly make out the failure in the gasket, but my best guess would be the oil seepage. I also would like to know why there seems to be a gap between cyl 1 and 2 at the thinnest point between the cylinders(pic 7), and on pic 8 it looks like a crack or point of a leak in the same location.

Whats the reason for the lower compression on 1 and 2 though?
 

Fordkoppie

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sash said:
Great work andy, to a simpleton like me, I cant exactly make out the failure in the gasket, but my best guess would be the oil seepage. I also would like to know why there seems to be a gap between cyl 1 and 2 at the thinnest point between the cylinders(pic 7), and on pic 8 it looks like a crack or point of a leak in the same location.

Whats the reason for the lower compression on 1 and 2 though?

You answered your own question right there:rollsmile:
The compression "bleeds" through to the next cylinder via that failed part of the gasket at the thinnest point
 

moranor@axis

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sad to see this... good thing you parked it off when you did

do you have anything to monitor and store logs? I would invest here if I were you so you can get it running right consistently
 

Andy1GP

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Lots of speculation running around the groups etc.. I was at van der linde developments this morning and they have done hundreds of S54 heads. They even commented on how good the rocker arms still look and what good condition the head is.

Apparently the red burning on the exhaust valces are quite normal. All the S54 heads they get burn the same. The only problematic one was number one. Seemed to show signs of rich running. I recall having a fuel smell and refitting one of the injectors correctly that sorted that out.

Sash I'll post a pic of the head gasket so you can see it more clearly. Like Chris said you answered yourself ;)

Niks I'm keeping the head stock, they are cnc machined so in essence flowed to near perfection. The intake tract and exhaust tract is so sharp you cut yourself on it with ease. They charge R6500 to port and flow but have negligible gains on the dynos.

Warren I am using the stock gasket again with stock bolts. I'm not planning on running any more boost than what the car has seen already. Alain drove the car for around 4000kms boosted (speaking under correction) so it's definitely reliable.

I did run some ethanol in it to lean out some of the rich map running issues before I discovered that it was the vanos issue. That could have led to some premature heat and gasket failure. Combined with dyno runs and hot running coolant etc.

Luckily the pinging developed while cruising on the highway and I was 5kms from home. I think I dodged a potential nightmare :)

The head should be ready by Wednesday as they are prioritising it for me.

I ordered new bits from BMW today (already have the head bolts and gasket along with a proper AFR gauge)

exhaust gaskets x 6
Brass exhaust nuts x 18
Secondary air intake exhaust gasket x1 (2 week back order from germany) and it's like R120 for a gasket smaller than a R5 coin :shocked:
Intake manifold gaskets
Water manifold gaskets
Thermostat gasket
And some other bits I forget now...

I'm going to start a poll to get some votes on reverting the car stock and using it as a daily, as it is such a nice example! I miss driving it dearly. VS going Supercharged and doing it right. The aim is it must be faster than an E60M5 else its a fail :)

Only thing left to source is a wideband O2 sensor to hook up to the AFR gauge so I can log properly. The AWRON gauge That's fitted is amazing but the narrowband signals are useless and update too slowly.
 

Andy1GP

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Earlier today

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And then some self teasing

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Here is the headgasket. You can see its split between all the cylinders bar number 6.

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sash

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Thanks Andy, I agree with Sean, if its stock, I doubt you will keep it long... would love to see it stock, but even better will be it being properly sorted SC setup.

P.S. I dont see a pic of the headgasket.
 
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