E36 vs E46 M3

[thireshan]

Yeah he has the car for about three years if I recall correctly.

The car recently made 225kw on the wheels at the Zeemax Dyno at their new premises.

He also has a cosmos black e36 M3 that he will also be making available.

zeemax gives flywheel power and not wheelpower

 

[335i Lci]

upgrade. 46 46 46, you had the 36 now move on

 

[calypso]

I dunno, If i had to chose. I think I would be sadder to see the e36 go. But I have had it a long time, and they grow on you.

 

[sidewayz]

I dunno, If i had to chose. I think I would be sadder to see the e36 go. But I have had it a long time, and they grow on you.

+100000000000000000000000000000

 

[saturnz]

Irrespective, the figures quoted is definitely wheel power.

 

[sclass]

If that's what your car looks like then KEEP IT!! Even if you find an E46 in great condition the mere fact that you have an EVER-SCARCE clean E36 makes the car that much more valuable. You WILL remember it...

 

[thireshan]

Irrespective, the figures quoted is definitely wheel power.

how can it be irrespective as wheel power is a reflection what your car is putting out on the road which will be lower than fly power and if the car made that power at the last dyno held at zeemax then they its flywheel power that was quoted,somebody from the forum who was there for the dyno day can confirm whether wheel power or fly figures were given.

 

[sclass]

Maybe we'll feel the same way about the E46 M3 in the next few years.

 

[saturnz]

As I said, the power figure quote to him was wheel power.

You can contact Herman and ask him if the autowizard's M3 he put on his dyno a month or two ago was quoted power figures at the wheels or the crank, then you can hear from the horse's mouth so to speak if you do not believe me.

He will know the car pretty well since they were sharing a workshop for a month and are still in contact.

 

[thireshan]

As I said, the power figure quote to him was wheel power.

You can contact Herman and ask him if the autowizard's M3 he put on his dyno a month or two ago was quoted power figures at the wheels or the crank, then you can hear from the horse's mouth so to speak if you do not believe me.

He will know the car pretty well since they were sharing a workshop for a month and are still in contact.

i dont need to contact anyone,its just to my knowledge as i have put various cars of mine on the zeemax dyno and they always gave fly power,maybe he asked for wheel power and they changed the settings on the dyno for him,what mods on the E46 M?

 

[saturnz]

The car is standard with just minor aesthetic changes.

 

[sidewayz]

225kw on the wheels is blady good

 

[saturnz]

Not actually, apparently that is what they make on that dyno.

I got a call from my friend in the morning and he told me he was on the dyno and asked me to guess the power, I guessed 225 and he laughed because thats exactly what the car made.

Talking a bit more he said that Herman told him thats what most of the M3s make on the dyno, with some a kw or two more or less.

 

[kabal]

yes, they all making between 220 and 225 flywheel power on the zeemax dyno, mine included

 

[thireshan]

Mine made 228kw atf,de-catted

if ur friend making that atw that M is very strong,would like to see it in action

 

[saturnz]

It is a normal M3, I doubt its stronger than other M3s and as I said, the conversation at the time suggested it was normal and not more than what other cars are making.

I will see him either tomorrow or Wednesday and will ask him to confirm if its wheelpower or not.

I really believe it is at the wheels since an e46 M3 makes 250kw at the crank, and 225kw at the wheels seems consistent with that stats.

 

[thireshan]

It is a normal M3, I doubt its stronger than other M3s and as I said, the conversation at the time suggested it was normal and not more than what other cars are making.

I will see him either tomorrow or Wednesday and will ask him to confirm if its wheelpower or not.

I really believe it is at the wheels since an e46 M3 makes 250kw at the crank, and 225kw at the wheels seems consistent with that stats.

on the various dyno's i have been to i have not seen a standard or de-catt E46 m3 put out that 252kw as the specs say.standard or de-catt E46 M's usually make between 220kw and 230kw atf on the dyno.

 

[calypso]

Split thread.

 

[Theo D]

I dunno, If i had to chose. I think I would be sadder to see the e36 go. But I have had it a long time, and they grow on you.

They do indeed grow on you, I had an E36 m3 Avus Blue...

http://www.bmwmregistry.com/detail.php?id=8785

I now own a phoenix yellow E46 M3(beautiful machine), but I must say I miss the E36 terribly and will buy another one soon. :joy:

 

[Xack]

It is a normal M3, I doubt its stronger than other M3s and as I said, the conversation at the time suggested it was normal and not more than what other cars are making.

I will see him either tomorrow or Wednesday and will ask him to confirm if its wheelpower or not.

I really believe it is at the wheels since an e46 M3 makes 250kw at the crank, and 225kw at the wheels seems consistent with that stats.

on the various dyno's i have been to i have not seen a standard or de-catt E46 m3 put out that 252kw as the specs say.standard or de-catt E46 M's usually make between 220kw and 230kw atf on the dyno.

Damn, if this is true these cars are probably going to run forever:thumbs:... i wonder whether a lil octane booster will do the trick:rollsmile:... back to the topic...

Get the E46:fencelook: