does the e36 323i have a rev limiter?

Peter@AEW

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BountyHunter94 said:
Well not exactly 9 000 but if you dont believe me
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Likely that someone has had a go at the cluster.

I know of an e36M3 with a dodgy cluster that revs at 6000rpm when the engine is at half that speed.
 

Rotinaj

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Given the limited photo i guess you are doing around 80/90km/h. Unless that is 1st gear i can't really see your tachometer being accurate.
 

BountyHunter94

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I'll take a video so all of you can see. And there's nothing wrong with my cluster. It's working 100% i just need to replace all of the bulb's


And yes it was 2nd gear at 80-90 km/h
 

Nikhil

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As i Said impossible on stock valve train. possibly an input sensor or something that's giving the wrong reading.
 

splintheter

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BountyHunter94 said:
I'll take a video so all of you can see. And there's nothing wrong with my cluster. It's working 100% i just need to replace all of the bulb's


And yes it was 2nd gear at 80-90 km/h



7s in to this video, will prove that your cluster is goofed :)

the e36 323i is at about 6k RPM @ 90KM/H in 2nd

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AdiS

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Just a sanity check.. Is this really happening? Someone is really claiming that their m52 is revving to 8-9k...?
 

moranor@axis

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with the stock e36 323i gear ratio your speed in 2nd at 9000rpm would be 144kph

so you have a cluster or sensor issue
 

Prenevan

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I have had the same issue in a 325i, it was revving way of the clock, the issue was that the previous owner changed the cluster and ever since that it use to seem like it pulls forever but in fact it wasnt, it was just incorrect


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Fordkoppie

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If this is true, then my 540 can also rev up to 8k:rollsmile:

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It did this a couple of times one day about 2 years ago, and never again
 

Rotinaj

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BountyHunter94 said:
I'll take a video so all of you can see. And there's nothing wrong with my cluster. It's working 100% i just need to replace all of the bulb's


And yes it was 2nd gear at 80-90 km/h




Yes i said FIRST gear. I have a 320i with the short ratio diff in the back, 90 is spot on for 6500rpm redline. No way in hell chum. Have you never noticed that the the revs seem to climb oh oh so quickly once past a certain point without any extra surge.
 

Rotinaj

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Come on mate.

Have you ever heard a M3/M5/M6 running at 8000rpms? Have you heard a S2000 at 9000? Have you heard a AMG running to 7500? Your bmw is as quiet as a lexus at at 40000rpms at 9000

It is as clear as daylight your cluster is busted. 40km/h at 6000rpms come now, even a Polo 1.4 has longer gearing. 9000 rpms at 90, come now really? 7000 at 110 in 3rd? Again a polo has longer gear than that. It's a awesome party trick to impress the not so sharp but here you are dealing with guys who own cars that can actually run to a real 9000rpms.
 

BountyHunter94

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I know.. I just screwing with ya'll

So how do i get the limiter back or is it best to leave it like it is??

When i bought it i was impressed cause the dealer said they had it chipped. Most probably cause they saw the rev's aren't right.

Who knows someone that can remapp mine. 96 model needs to be remapped post 96 needs to be chipped


Also can you guys hear the vanos? It sounds like the vanos always stays on. It sounds like a bakkie/ldv
 

splintheter

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BountyHunter94 said:
I know.. I just screwing with ya'll

So how do i get the limiter back or is it best to leave it like it is??

When i bought it i was impressed cause the dealer said they had it chipped. Most probably cause they saw the rev's aren't right.

Who knows someone that can remapp mine. 96 model needs to be remapped post 96 needs to be chipped


Also can you guys hear the vanos? It sounds like the vanos always stays on. It sounds like a bakkie/ldv


Funny guy

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Peter@AEW

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BountyHunter94 said:
Also can you guys hear the vanos? It sounds like the vanos always stays on. It sounds like a bakkie/ldv

You can only hear vanos related noises at very specific rev ranges and mostly at idle.

Once the engine gets up to high revs the noise for the engine will mask any vanos noises. (well in most cases)

I would say that the noises you hear are engine stress related and not meaning to be critical but if you continue changing gears like that the noises will soon become gearbox related
 

e30loading

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Isn't this just because he's using a 4 pot cluster in a 6 pot? There is a cluster test to show which cluster is being used.:tiptoe:
 

Gizmo

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e30loading said:
Isn't this just because he's using a 4 pot cluster in a 6 pot? There is a cluster test to show which cluster is being used.:tiptoe:
100% correct. 4cyl signal is 2 pulses per engine revolution. 6cyl signal is 3 pulses per engine revolution.
In the OP case, the 4cyl cluster is being fed 3 pulses per engine revolution and over reading by 33%.

The opposite will happen if you put a 6cyl cluster in a 4cyl e36, the cluster will under read by 33%.
 

e30loading

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Gizmo said:
e30loading said:
Isn't this just because he's using a 4 pot cluster in a 6 pot? There is a cluster test to show which cluster is being used.:tiptoe:
100% correct. 4cyl signal is 2 pulses per engine revolution. 6cyl signal is 3 pulses per engine revolution.
In the OP case, the 4cyl cluster is being fed 3 pulses per engine revolution and over reading by 33%.

The opposite will happen if you put a 6cyl cluster in a 4cyl e36, the cluster will under read by 33%.

Didn't know the specifics, but i've had the same swapping from a 4 pot to a 6 pot. The clusters(e36)/coding plug(e30) need swapping!
 
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