Do i , Don't i ???

[ahmed e bhamjee]

Been wanting to do a brake upgrade for a while now and the place where i've been to get the stuff i need has offered me this......

to go onto this....

should i go for it ????? but what about the rear discs as they're silver ????

Please advise....

Thanks

 

[Karthik]

What brakes are those ? They look better but are they better ? You have an M not many brakes are better than oem m brakes

 

[ahmed e bhamjee]

What brakes are those ? They look better but are they better ? You have an M not many brakes are better than oem m brakes

Hey Karthik

They are EBC and they match with the EBC redstuff brake pads.

Total = R3500

The current ones are ok but under hard braking they terrible.maybe i should change the pads and take it from there !!

 

[Karthik]

I dunno to be honest , I would go with OEM and just get new pads as they probably finished but each to their own , also heard stories that aftermarket brakes create more dust and black powder or so ? Not sure , just wait for one of the other members to help you as I'm also not too certain

 

[moranor@axis]

rather stick with the oem floating disks I can Cryo treat a set for you it will make them last 2-3 times longer so then you can run high friction pads on them and they wont get eaten... your other option is to look at other floating disk upgrades, but they are going to be pricy...

 

[Twinz]

I agree on staying OEM...upgrade the pads or consider Moranor's idea :thumbs:

 

[ahmed e bhamjee]

rather stick with the oem floating disks I can Cryo treat a set for you it will make them last 2-3 times longer so then you can run high friction pads on them and they wont get eaten... your other option is to look at other floating disk upgrades, but they are going to be pricy...

Thanks bud. Thanks for the offer. Will get in touch if i do want to go that route. :thumbs:

From what i've gathered just by the few replies is that i should just stick with what i have and change the pads and see how it goes from there.

lets see

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I agree on staying OEM...upgrade the pads or consider Moranor's idea :thumbs:

Thanks Twinz :thumbs:

Will definitely go the oem route

What pads should i use???

 

[Coisman]

imp:
But I thought you are planning to sell the M Coupe?? :thinking:

 

[moranor@axis]

floating disks are the best no two ways about it... just be careful if you run better pads that can take more heat they normally are also higher friction which is good for performance but not so good for your disks... LZ ran some ebc pads on his M5 and they have eaten the disks quite badly from what he says...

in contrast Ive been running the EBC disks you thinking of getting with ebc pads for a year now and they look almost new but im getting a slight vibration now so ill just skim them an refit them...

but i would never go from floating disks to solid because solid is by far more inferior...

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imp:
But I thought you are planning to sell the M Coupe?? :thinking:

lol what you want to buy it :rollsmile:

 

[ahmed e bhamjee]

imp:
But I thought you are planning to sell the M Coupe?? :thinking:

Hey Francios

I am planning to, if only buyers understand what "NO TIME WASTERS" means.....

Maybe i should add that they must first pay a deposit before I'll even consider talking to them.

When i bought the car, i had to first put down 50k to go for a test drive and on top of that i was the passenger!!!

Back to the topic

Just want everything to be in order so if i do manage to get a buyer then he/she will have peace of mind as its the right thing to do. Also if i don't get a buyer then atleast i have good brakes for the next midnight run.... :joy:

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floating disks are the best no two ways about it... just be careful if you run better pads that can take more heat they normally are also higher friction which is good for performance but not so good for your disks... LZ ran some ebc pads on his M5 and they have eaten the disks quite badly from what he says...

in contrast Ive been running the EBC disks you thinking of getting with ebc pads for a year now and they look almost new but im getting a slight vibration now so ill just skim them an refit them...

but i would never go from floating disks to solid because solid is by far more inferior...

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imp:
But I thought you are planning to sell the M Coupe?? :thinking:

You could'nt have put it better !!!!!

Thanks Moranor

 

[moranor@axis]

speak to powerbrake they carry a wide range of pads and should be able to advise you on what would be best for your disks...

 

[ahmed e bhamjee]

speak to powerbrake they carry a wide range of pads and should be able to advise you on what would be best for your disks...

Thanks

Will do.

or

Would it be not too stupid to just get the OEM ones from the Stealers????

 

[moranor@axis]

Stealers pads seem expensive to me the disks are not a bad price from them...

 

[ahmed e bhamjee]

Stealers pads seem expensive to me the disks are not a bad price from them...

Will check there prices!

Thanks

 

[rick540]

rather stick with the oem floating disks I can Cryo treat a set for you it will make them last 2-3 times longer so then you can run high friction pads on them and they wont get eaten... your other option is to look at other floating disk upgrades, but they are going to be pricy...

Any downside to this, was just wondering why they don't do that from the factory?

 

[moranor@axis]

rather stick with the oem floating disks I can Cryo treat a set for you it will make them last 2-3 times longer so then you can run high friction pads on them and they wont get eaten... your other option is to look at other floating disk upgrades, but they are going to be pricy...

Any downside to this, was just wondering why they don't do that from the factory?

there is no industrial way to do it so it takes time... so it can only be used in small scale right now... but it was the same with heat treatment and now they just have a huge conveyer belt goes in soft one side and comes out perfect the other side...

I know of two race teams (they cannot be named :fencelook: ) that are using this treatment (they are unable to change disks because of rules)...
before they would go though a set of disks a race, but now they can run 3-4 races whit the same disks...

the only down side is the cost, but with the disks lasting longer it makes up for the cost... I think the reason why manufacturers dont do it is because they will increase the cost of the product and im not sure it makes sense in terms of marketing...

 

[George Smooth]

My advice to you would be to do braided hoses first. You going to need them sooner or later. If your discs are finished and you need to replace them with the EBC then its a hard choice. I do not have experience with those discs but have found that the weak point on the M brakes is the hoses as stated more than the discs overheating.

 

[calypso]

Stock pads are meh for performance. Too soft.

 

[rick540]

rather stick with the oem floating disks I can Cryo treat a set for you it will make them last 2-3 times longer so then you can run high friction pads on them and they wont get eaten... your other option is to look at other floating disk upgrades, but they are going to be pricy...

Any downside to this, was just wondering why they don't do that from the factory?

there is no industrial way to do it so it takes time... so it can only be used in small scale right now... but it was the same with heat treatment and now they just have a huge conveyer belt goes in soft one side and comes out perfect the other side...

I know of two race teams (they cannot be named :fencelook: ) that are using this treatment (they are unable to change disks because of rules)...
before they would go though a set of disks a race, but now they can run 3-4 races whit the same disks...

the only down side is the cost, but with the disks lasting longer it makes up for the cost... I think the reason why manufacturers dont do it is because they will increase the cost of the product and im not sure it makes sense in terms of marketing...

But making springs uses a cryo process as well doesnt it?

Anyways after reading this---->
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryogenic_hardening

I feel like ordering up a tank of liquid nitrogen and dipping all my engine parts in it (I wish it were that easy)

 

[moranor@axis]

rather stick with the oem floating disks I can Cryo treat a set for you it will make them last 2-3 times longer so then you can run high friction pads on them and they wont get eaten... your other option is to look at other floating disk upgrades, but they are going to be pricy...

Any downside to this, was just wondering why they don't do that from the factory?

there is no industrial way to do it so it takes time... so it can only be used in small scale right now... but it was the same with heat treatment and now they just have a huge conveyer belt goes in soft one side and comes out perfect the other side...

I know of two race teams (they cannot be named :fencelook: ) that are using this treatment (they are unable to change disks because of rules)...
before they would go though a set of disks a race, but now they can run 3-4 races whit the same disks...

the only down side is the cost, but with the disks lasting longer it makes up for the cost... I think the reason why manufacturers dont do it is because they will increase the cost of the product and im not sure it makes sense in terms of marketing...

But making springs uses a cryo process as well doesnt it?

Anyways after reading this---->
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryogenic_hardening

I feel like ordering up a tank of liquid nitrogen and dipping all my engine parts in it (I wish it were that easy)

I dont think they use this for springs i think they still only use heat treatment on them, but springs also have good results it has to be cooled at a very specific rate for this to be effective... I can get anything treated, but it raises resistance to abrasion the most up to 300% other properties seem to only be raised about 30%... parts do come out alot stronger but i think thats mostly down to the process relieving stresses and making no weak points where the part can fail...

If you want stuff treated let me know i know cranks are often treated for high rpm applications :rollsmile: