bmw m60 chip

zaleonardz

Well-known member
Danzell...

I am going to be doing a UniQ on mine very shortly, just because I have a spare, will let you know, but no experiance with ECU tuning.

I know guys in the US are getting eprom's shipped to them, hit bimmerforums.com and see what you can find there, would also like to know.
 

O so Sxc

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dont know about 540 but tried a Motorsport chip on an E34 525i with an M20 motor .The car picked up an extra 1000rpms and revved up much faster .Also faster 0-100 and much stronger in the midrange power too.
You can try guys like JSN Motors who are also agents for AC Schnitzer or Chiplogic or an aftermarket system like Mr Tubo or Dicktator
Good luck
 

STREETRACER

Active member
O so Sxc said:
dont know about 540 but tried a Motorsport chip on an E34 525i with an M20 motor .The car picked up an extra 1000rpms and revved up much faster .Also faster 0-100 and much stronger in the midrange power too.
You can try guys like JSN Motors who are also agents for AC Schnitzer or Chiplogic or an aftermarket system like Mr Tubo or Dicktator
Good luck

Mr turbo is good if you have a golf MK1! Reason Mr. Turbo only provides Timing, fuel and vacuum! so knock sensors , MAF sensors, O2 sensors, Vanos etc will not work Closest to best here is Gotech pro X which can run all the sensors but still not as good as BMW ECU.. rather add a chip or software but dont change to fuelmanagement if not needed!
 

George Smooth

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Give Chiplogic a call. They can do those cars with there eyes because when it was released they where the only company doing software. I can recall at least ten cars in the days I was involved with gains up to 20wkw.
 

STREETRACER

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George Smooth said:
STREETRACER said:
Venom racing gained 8kw more out of my car than chip logic could with a DASTEK chip!

Does it always make that 8wk more or is it only when it is on the dyno?

Bud my 1/4mile time are quicker aswell!
Chiplogic built my motor, head, cams, software zorst etc.. car made 171kw on our dyno afterwards! My car is now making 189kw after Dastek chip, TNT exhuast RGM CIA
 

George Smooth

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The point I am trying to make is that cars can be tuned to certain points and more. Tuning the car for maximum power on the dyno does not necessarily make it well tuned as there are parameters that change once the car is on the road. If you are running the Seimens management as I see the car has a 3.2 motor it is even more sensitive to these conditions and may give you varied results on the dyno. If you are running the Bosch and you are making more power with the Dastek then surely Chiplogic did not get the maximum out of your modifications or they deemed that the tuning was as close to the edge in terms of reliability. I have driven in a few M's tuned with the Dastek and the cars run too much timing making the car run against the knock sensors which in the long term will cause reliability issues.

As a matter of interest my best time with a stock 3.0 M3 is a 13.7 at Midvaal and with a exhaust only 13.66 at Black Rock and 13.67 at Rainbow. So with the 189wkw you should see a great improvement to your best time once you get the hang of it. Is the 189wkw power made at the reef or coast?
 

Andy1GP

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Bumping this thread to answer some questions. Chipping (UniQ) a M62 and M60 motor. Anyone have experience with this? Some feedback would be appreciated. :thumbs:
 

Raybimmer

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@Andy the auto has a 404 ecu and the 6-speed has a 484 ecu . Clutchy downloaded my ecu parameters and they were way different to his 404 ecu in his 540i manual conversion .
There seems to be a problem with the security system , you have to use your cars chip again , but if someone can download it and copy to a eprom chip ( they are relatively cheap 3327 or so chips ) you could send it to the states . Cost about 250 dollars with speed limiter removed ( std 240 km/h limiter ) , rev limit raised and parameters improved . There were good reviews , low rev pulling was improved . Local ? Maybe unichip ?
 

Andy1GP

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Raybimmer said:
@Andy the auto has a 404 ecu and the 6-speed has a 484 ecu . Clutchy downloaded my ecu parameters and they were way different to his 404 ecu in his 540i manual conversion .
There seems to be a problem with the security system , you have to use your cars chip again , but if someone can download it and copy to a eprom chip ( they are relatively cheap 3327 or so chips ) you could send it to the states . Cost about 250 dollars with speed limiter removed ( std 240 km/h limiter ) , rev limit raised and parameters improved . There were good reviews , low rev pulling was improved . Local ? Maybe unichip ?

Good Gen Ray :ty: I'm looking into it. I have a spare UniQ chip (pulled from the audi) so would want to achieve all of the above for my baby when I get her back :rollsmile:
 

Legacy

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Raybimmer said:
@Andy the auto has a 404 ecu and the 6-speed has a 484 ecu . Clutchy downloaded my ecu parameters and they were way different to his 404 ecu in his 540i manual conversion .
There seems to be a problem with the security system , you have to use your cars chip again , but if someone can download it and copy to a eprom chip ( they are relatively cheap 3327 or so chips ) you could send it to the states . Cost about 250 dollars with speed limiter removed ( std 240 km/h limiter ) , rev limit raised and parameters improved . There were good reviews , low rev pulling was improved . Local ? Maybe unichip ?

It might be true that the ECU's are different however I doubt there is any significant difference between the parameters. Our 540i with the 5 speed conversion from an auto has pretty much identical performance to any 540iM. I would even go as far to say it is stronger. We have tested this as well as tested against an E34 M5 and there is not allot in it. The M5 will pull away at some stage since it can reach 260kph but from 20-220kph the cars are dead even. Oh and this M5 in particular I have seen pull away from a couple of other M5's as well as a 540iM with ease.

If you really want performance talk to Rick, he has(d) a chip which will advance the timing to the maximum as well as some other changes and from what I have heard this makes a massive difference to performance. Also your fuel consumption should almost double :fencelook:
 

Andy1GP

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Calling rick then indeed.

However the plot thickens. M62 sub being used in my E34 now with non vanos heads. Possibly M60 heads. I wonder if this hybrid would see similar gains with a ECU update.

The devil's in the details so once she's finished and running and I have all the specs I'm definitely going to sort something out :thumbs:

Legacy said:
It might be true that the ECU's are different however I doubt there is any significant difference between the parameters. Our 540i with the 5 speed conversion from an auto has pretty much identical performance to any 540iM. I would even go as far to say it is stronger. We have tested this as well as tested against an E34 M5 and there is not allot in it. The M5 will pull away at some stage since it can reach 260kph but from 20-220kph the cars are dead even. Oh and this M5 in particular I have seen pull away from a couple of other M5's as well as a 540iM with ease.

What have you done to yours aside from the manual swap?
 

Sankekur

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Andy1GP said:
Legacy said:
It might be true that the ECU's are different however I doubt there is any significant difference between the parameters. Our 540i with the 5 speed conversion from an auto has pretty much identical performance to any 540iM. I would even go as far to say it is stronger. We have tested this as well as tested against an E34 M5 and there is not allot in it. The M5 will pull away at some stage since it can reach 260kph but from 20-220kph the cars are dead even. Oh and this M5 in particular I have seen pull away from a couple of other M5's as well as a 540iM with ease.

What have you done to yours aside from the manual swap?

Diff swap and different exhaust, and the exhaust could probably be better as it is pretty badly made.
 

rick540

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Andy1GP said:
Calling rick then indeed.

However the plot thickens. M62 sub being used in my E34 now with non vanos heads. Possibly M60 heads. I wonder if this hybrid would see similar gains with a ECU update.

The devil's in the details so once she's finished and running and I have all the specs I'm definitely going to sort something out :thumbs:

Legacy said:
It might be true that the ECU's are different however I doubt there is any significant difference between the parameters. Our 540i with the 5 speed conversion from an auto has pretty much identical performance to any 540iM. I would even go as far to say it is stronger. We have tested this as well as tested against an E34 M5 and there is not allot in it. The M5 will pull away at some stage since it can reach 260kph but from 20-220kph the cars are dead even. Oh and this M5 in particular I have seen pull away from a couple of other M5's as well as a 540iM with ease.

What have you done to yours aside from the manual swap?



I do have here an ECU with a chip that I feel works very well and some data about cam timing mods I experimented with and used.

 

Legacy

///Member
Sankekur said:
Andy1GP said:
Legacy said:
It might be true that the ECU's are different however I doubt there is any significant difference between the parameters. Our 540i with the 5 speed conversion from an auto has pretty much identical performance to any 540iM. I would even go as far to say it is stronger. We have tested this as well as tested against an E34 M5 and there is not allot in it. The M5 will pull away at some stage since it can reach 260kph but from 20-220kph the cars are dead even. Oh and this M5 in particular I have seen pull away from a couple of other M5's as well as a 540iM with ease.

What have you done to yours aside from the manual swap?

Diff swap and different exhaust, and the exhaust could probably be better as it is pretty badly made.

Well the exhaust has two Speedy or Bosal or some crap resonators and an M5 backbox and there is a spot where the welding is so bad it leaks like crazy so it could definitely be allot better :fencelook:
 
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