Bmw 125i, N20 with JB Stage1

dvst8

///Member
Josh-ZN said:
dvst8 said:
DieselFan said:
His car had JB4 stage 2, flexfuel lines and dp not sure what other mods. And was running 50/50 mix of ethanol and pumpfuel. QQQ can chime in if he's around.

I still cant see a 12.4 out the 125 with those mods.

:fencelook:

+1

but if it is the case, well done

Yep, if it can be proven, well done. I am upgrading to the stg 2 and installing a dp in the next month, will try and see how I fair with my
125.
:thumbs:
 

QQQ

New member
dvst8 said:
DieselFan said:
His car had JB4 stage 2, flexfuel lines and dp not sure what other mods. And was running 50/50 mix of ethanol and pumpfuel. QQQ can chime in if he's around.

I still cant see a 12.4 out the 125 with those mods.

:fencelook:

Well when your 125 churns out 250kw and 500nm, weighs 1365kg (lighter than a M135i @ approx. 1530kg) and has a sports AT transmission, with a good driver that can brake launch without wheel spin, this is VERY possible. Believe me. Was done at Killarney in CPT.

My friend has a M135i 3door that is stock (235kw and 450nm) and we have done a standing start 0-200 and I kill him with like 8 lengths.

But let's leave you guys with the stock 125i's to decide, as you clearly have the experience with a 125i with 250kw's and 500nm's :biglol:

BTW...... have you guys even had experience with ethanol mixes? :blab:
 

QQQ

New member
dvst8 said:
Josh-ZN said:
dvst8 said:
DieselFan said:
His car had JB4 stage 2, flexfuel lines and dp not sure what other mods. And was running 50/50 mix of ethanol and pumpfuel. QQQ can chime in if he's around.

I still cant see a 12.4 out the 125 with those mods.

:fencelook:

+1

but if it is the case, well done

Yep, if it can be proven, well done. I am upgrading to the stg 2 and installing a dp in the next month, will try and see how I fair with my
125.
:thumbs:

Well I am selling my upgrades if you are interested, as I am trading my 125 for something bigger.
 
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Josh-ZN

Guest
QQQ said:
Well when your 125 churns out 250kw and 500nm, weighs 1365kg (lighter than a M135i @ approx. 1530kg) and has a sports AT transmission, with a good driver that can brake launch without wheel spin, this is VERY possible. Believe me. Was done at Killarney in CPT.

My friend has a M135i 3door that is stock (235kw and 450nm) and we have done a standing start 0-200 and I kill him with like 8 lengths.

But let's leave you guys with the stock 125i's to decide, as you clearly have the experience with a 125i with 250kw's and 500nm's :biglol:

BTW...... have you guys even had experience with ethanol mixes? :blab:

no need to get all funny. we are allowed to have our opinions. show us some evidence. until then, to me, its all talk. prove me wrong and i will be the first to congratulate you :thumb: (the 8 car lengths story and your irritation makes me doubt it even more.)
 

QQQ

New member
I am not irritated. I am just tired of always having to prove it. Go look at my dyno graphs on N54tech.com and you will see the power delivery of my car. If you overlay that on a M135 that is stock, you will clearly see why the 125 with that output is quicker. My car makes over 400nm under 2000rpm and still makes this at 6000rpm with a 508nm peak at 3500rpm. This delivery is way superior to the M135. Anyways. Each to their own.....

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Chavoos

Active member
Car is amazingly fast as I said before.
Seems to be the fastest N20 in the world at 12.4 sec.

Most fob135i's can't achieve this.

So some proof would go a long way in making this believable.


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Josh-ZN

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Chavoos said:
Car is amazingly fast as I said before.
Seems to be the fastest N20 in the world at 12.4 sec.

Most fob135i's can't achieve this.

So some proof would go a long way in making this believable.

+1

we not here to give you a hard time QQQQQQQQQQQQQQ :) your claimed figures are just hectic. hey, if anything we all would love for it to be true. afterall we are all bmw fanatics. is it too much to ask?

now i see you selling the whole kit :dunno:
 

dvst8

///Member
Josh-ZN said:
Chavoos said:
Car is amazingly fast as I said before.
Seems to be the fastest N20 in the world at 12.4 sec.

Most fob135i's can't achieve this.

So some proof would go a long way in making this believable.

+1

we not here to give you a hard time QQQQQQQQQQQQQQ :) your claimed figures are just hectic. hey, if anything we all would love for it to be true. afterall we are all bmw fanatics. is it too much to ask?

now i see you selling the whole kit :dunno:

Agree 100% Josh

I was very impressed with the stg1 JB unit on my 125, however I have been buying, modding and drag racing for a long time and would have to see this 12.4 to believe it.

As i said, my stg2 chip will be here in the next few weeks, will be running the same mods as QQQ, I would be very happy to even break into the 12's. So mid 12's will be very impressive.

Btw, what u upgrading to QQQ ?
 

DieselFan

Honorary ///Member
dvst8 said:
Josh-ZN said:
Chavoos said:
Car is amazingly fast as I said before.
Seems to be the fastest N20 in the world at 12.4 sec.

Most fob135i's can't achieve this.

So some proof would go a long way in making this believable.

+1

we not here to give you a hard time QQQQQQQQQQQQQQ :) your claimed figures are just hectic. hey, if anything we all would love for it to be true. afterall we are all bmw fanatics. is it too much to ask?

now i see you selling the whole kit :dunno:

Agree 100% Josh

I was very impressed with the stg1 JB unit on my 125, however I have been buying, modding and drag racing for a long time and would have to see this 12.4 to believe it.

As i said, my stg2 chip will be here in the next few weeks, will be running the same mods as QQQ, I would be very happy to even break into the 12's. So mid 12's will be very impressive.

Btw, what u upgrading to QQQ ?

Will you be running ethanol? Ethanol makes a huge difference.
 

QQQ

New member
Exactly why I raised the point of ethanol. It makes a HUGE difference. When someone else has the same setup and runs the ethanol mix they should get similar results. Ethanol changes the cars whole character. As I said before....... All the proof is on N54tech.

Changing to 520d Msport.

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Also..... stage 1 is nowhere near what I have....

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Del-Bosc

Active member
QQQ said:
Exactly why I raised the point of ethanol. It makes a HUGE difference. When someone else has the same setup and runs the ethanol mix they should get similar results. Ethanol changes the cars whole character. As I said before....... All the proof is on N54tech.

Changing to 520d Msport.

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Also..... stage 1 is nowhere near what I have....

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Please post link to thread on N54tech. Love these 125i's. Nice to see them making such big power is this output sustainable ? Any issues running this setup?
 

Kish2604

Administrator
Staff member
Mr QQQ....

The guys are just asking for some verification of your claims, if that time of 12.4 was done on a vbox then please silence your critics by posting the data, if done at the track how about the link to the results...

Please post the link to the dyno results..

Thanks..
 

Dean ///M

Limited Profile
12.4 is a really good time. Looking at the Stage1 gains I would assume that with some octane good tyres and a better 60ft one could run a 13.4 with it. If I compare the Stage1, 125i to that of a stock F30 335i (8 Speed Auto)they become very close in performance the F30 is about 0.25sec quicker to 100km/h and only about 0.15sec quicker on the 1/4mile but the exit speed is almost identical. Which means that what the 125i loses on the pull away to 100km/h it gets back up top, which also shows how light this car is and this is a 6MT, 125i.
So although the 335i is heavier than the 125i end of the day the 335i is still 225kw and the little 125i is 160kw + Stage1 JB, I assume that with the JB its close to 197kw's. Now couple this engine with a downpipe, stage2 and with ethanol/race fuel one could easily get +50hp which should take you in the region of 235 fly kw. These cars even the F30 with 8 Speed Auto can easily cut a 2.1sec 60ft on street tyres so with a good driver with 250kw as in QQ car which only weighs 1365kg's its possible to run in the high 12's easily. When I get the 6MT to Stage2 I will take it out to the track and see if I can get close to 12.4. Remember these 4 Bangers boost up to 23Psi on the race map.

Stage 2 BETA Map Guide

Map 0: Stock performance, JB4 off
Map 1: Peak boost 20psi, suitable for stock and mildly modified cars on pump gas
Map 2: Peak boost 21psi, suggested for those using a downpipe and 93 octane (USA) or higher fuels
Map 3: Progressive methanol mapping, coming soon
Map 4: Stock performance, JB4 on
Map 5: 320i/520i map. Peak boost 17psi.
Map 6: User definable map. Suggested for troubleshooting by professionals only.
Map 7: Race gas map. Peak boost 23psi. Requires straight race gas or an E85 mix of 50%. If using E85 you also need our FlexFuel connector installed. This is a fairly aggressive map and increases engine damage risks.


Chavoos said:
Please Provide the link to the proof , does it contain timeslips?
With more than 300kw(flywheel) it's difficult to break into the 12s .

Example:
Rob Green's 500+kw monster does a quarter mile in 12.2secs . See link below.

http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/arti...bmw-m3-gtrs-3s-meet-the-monster/#.Us8S_HkazCQ

No disrespect here, I understand exactly what you mean and these are facts above 500kw = 12.2sec but I surprised myself recently with a Golf7 Gti with 2000km's on it, it fitted Hoosiers filled in a cheap octane booster (R80) and made up my own induction at the track (it came off on the last run, Lol) and ran a 13.9 at Isithebe and thats with a 16xkw car. When we were racing E46 M3's some used to run this time and thats 252kw's. Btw, QQ is at the Coast the 125i will def never run 12.4 in Jhb.
 

BMBoyz

Banned
Dean ///M said:
Remember these 4 Bangers boost up to 23Psi on the race map.


Map 7: Race gas map. Peak boost 23psi. Requires straight race gas or an E85 mix of 50%. If using E85 you also need our FlexFuel connector installed. This is a fairly aggressive map and increases engine damage

Quoted relevant points.

QQQ I have read your article on n54, its very debatable

Terry agrees if no hardcore slips , its all hogwash
 

andre320D

New member
12.4 is very fast.. Well done bud

I checked killarney results for NOV 2013.

1M coupe - 12.469(reaction time 0.803)
M135 - 12.912(reaction time 0.773)

So this means you are alongside a 1M.

Well done:thumbs:
 
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