bmc filters any experience of these ?

moranor@axis

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listing is gone... if its just a filter you wont get anything more out of it than your current setup....
 

Burgy

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In my experience, Using an Afe, Injen CAI setup is best.

IMO, Bmc is very expensive and the only real benefit is the fact that you can clean it.

When I had my k04 Polo, we tested the bmw vs a simota cone and they both logged the same amount of air.

If youre working on a budget, I suggest a simota filter with a proper heat shield
 

moranor@axis

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ive been doing alot of research into cai for making my own one and this kind works best on the e46
E46nonm.jpg

injenbmwinstall.jpg
 

andrewbuch

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moranor said:
ive been doing alot of research into cai for making my own one and this kind works best on the e46
E46nonm.jpg

injenbmwinstall.jpg

Thats what they have done on crashnemesis's supercharged E46.. the cone filter sits low & gets cold air from the brake cooling duct
 

moranor@axis

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well with the SC there is no space up top for the filter :)
but of all the different CAIs for the e46 this is the one that works best...
 

rick540

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I am not fond of these things, I think they belong on a Golf or Honda, but then that's just what I think, and it's your car.

This has always been a very hot topic and these things have both advantages and disadvantages.

The factory replacement elements for the stock airbox are "nice" because you can clean them and do actually flow a bit more air but they are quite pricey and allow more dirt through regardless of manufacturers claims.

The cone filters might look cool, but other than that all you are getting is an intake noise upgrade and nothing else, probably a power downgrade and I'l say it again, go look up Helmholtz resonators, BMW intake systems are full of these and in a specific application will out perfom a cone filter every single time.

Something most people don't realise is ALL BMW stock air intakes are CAI already, they ALL have ducting that take in cold outside air from either behind the headlamp grill or inside the bumper cavity. If yours is taking air in from the engine compartment then somebody has probably lost or never replaced a few pipes the car was shipped with.

lastly modern cars use MAF (Mass Airflow sensors) for the intake air measurement. These usually consist of either a Platinum wire or Platinum film that is electrically heated and the cooling effect of the intake air is measured. This thing needs to be kept super clean to work and any filter that takes an oil on it tends to depost this oil on the MAf sensor and wrecks it. The Golfs/Opels etc get away with this because they use MAP (Mas Air pressure) sensors that cannot be damaged by oil.
 

moranor@axis

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rick you right most dont look right thats why im making one that will not look out of place...

the stock airbox is good, but it can still be improved on these long tube intakes have been proven to make more power than the stock box...

the oil issue is one of the reasons im using a paper filter...
 

P1000

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Nice writeup rick, although I am not sure you got the facts straight regarding the MAP on the golfs and opels. In fact, it is very difficult to effectively run MAP on a production line - it is too difficult to tune it will for all the production variance, and it is cheaper to just run it with a MAF.
 

Raybimmer

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IMHO the standard filter is designed for a use and works ok . More air flow must mean less dense filtration medium used .
 

Burgy

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A cone just put on the maf or where ever WILL suck in hot air and you'll prob lose power.

A well placed filter or a full cai will work best, in this instane you wont lose power.

A cai by itself will not give you major power, its thought of as more of an accompanying mod.

Small power gains: cai, exhaust, tuning etc

If you want big gains, time to go forced induction. Youll spend a fortune on your car in NA form trying to make power.

Think about your end goal, hope this helps :rollsmile:
 

uksilver323i

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well my theory is constant air flow will make the car better and more freeier revving ive heard good things about the one i posted so ive gone ahead and ordered it.

will post up what i find, end of the day the stock box is restrictive.
 

rick540

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P1000 said:
Nice writeup rick, although I am not sure you got the facts straight regarding the MAP on the golfs and opels. In fact, it is very difficult to effectively run MAP on a production line - it is too difficult to tune it will for all the production variance, and it is cheaper to just run it with a MAF.

I'm sure you are right, what I know about Golfs is probably dangerous and I never quite understood the lack of a MAF on some, I prefer self tuning closed loop systems.

 
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