Another Xcede K04 treatment

Sherwin@xcede

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superchip335 said:
Very impressive power , but, on pump fuel that will be impossible without breaking. I'm no tuning genius so please don't take me the wrong here, but that is impossible power on our kak fuel, with NF I will believe.

Ok I think the crux of the matter lies here. A few members are the saying the same thing. One cannot for the love of god make 260kw with a VAG 2.0 Tsi on pump fuel without it breaking.

So how do you guys know this? On a BMW forum nogal. What if I told you overseas they are making 300kw on the wheels on pump fuel? How do you know 260 is a bad number? Is 250 a safer number?

I don't have a problem answering any questions, I just get hot it gets pre-determined that 260 means it's not safe.
 
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for forum peace i wont comment further on your posts.

to xcede, i will pm you if i require further info.

cheers
 
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Rolf

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Let me confirm that these numbers ARE possible indeed
I've done such conversions before

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Sherwin@xcede

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Sleeper135i said:
At what point to your reach the knock threshold?
Surely there is a point where power output per liter on pump 95 is reached?
And that must be similar on any modern engine, a result of the properties of the fuel?

That sir, is a very good question. It's hard to answer as it depends on a lot of factors. But the Tsi is very good engine with very good knock control. It pulls timing reactively very quickly on a per-cylinder basis before any knock occurs.

Your air fuel ratio's requested in the map can also influence that threshold & make it safer if done right. The absolute amount of timing & enforcing a global timing threshold also have bearing.

Many more factors, but 260kw is not near the limit. There are safe tunes running 300kw overseas.

Sleeper135i said:
Just questions I have from seeing that OPC run 412hp on what I was told "Pump fuel only"
Just to find out later he had OB and meth.

Keep up the good work!
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Yeah I think they meant he was running pump fuel in his tank as opposed to racefuel. And water meth still makes it pump fuel. They should have said pump with with some octane enhancements.


Rolf@PromotecAuto said:
Let me confirm that these numbers ARE possible indeed
I've done such conversions before

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Hi Rolf, I can confirm it don't worry I got it covered. We made it on 2 different dynos with 2 different cars in the same week. So yeah it's possible because it just physically happened.

But yeah you can go ahead and check with the FBI if you want. If the FBI comes back that it's not possible then I don't know what we are going to do. We might as well all go home then.
 
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