335kw and 670nm

Twinz

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The short answer:
George...you know so little about the JB tune and i dont think i have time to educate you...but i can tell you this i acheived those numbers in December last year not last weekend...the JB is a progressive, constantly improving tune and one hell of a street tune... On my first 335 i ran the chip logic tune at 1.3 bar already in 2007...probably the first and only guy that was bold enough to experiment....were you around then? Do you really think that i will be contented with 335 kw on my car? Of course not... Why i switch from the old tune to the JB is personal and with all my respect to OB and his abilities... The chiplogic tune simply cannot do for me what i am currently enjoying from my car...:excited:
 

Rennzport

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george, i have a question 4 u..

Y does it always seem like u are trying to flame the jb3, or posting that u wanna see what the jb cars can do.

Do u consider it to be the benchmark or something??
U dnt give any other tune "air time"
 

George Smooth

///Member
Twinz said:
The short answer:
George...you know so little about the JB tune and i dont think i have time to educate you...but i can tell you this i acheived those numbers in December last year not last weekend...the JB is a progressive, constantly improving tune and one hell of a street tune... On my first 335 i ran the chip logic tune at 1.3 bar already in 2007...probably the first and only guy that was bold enough to experiment....were you around then? Do you really think that i will be contented with 335 kw on my car? Of course not... Why i switch from the old tune to the JB is personal and with all my respect to OB and his abilities... The chiplogic tune simply cannot do for me what i am currently enjoying from my car...:excited:

I am not sure why you getting so defensive. Have I said anything bad about the JB3 tune or do you have the impression I am competing with you. If I have given you that impression please show me where. I said I would be interested to see what a JB3 car runs locally on map 11. I thought that is the highest map which the guys are making 450whp with. I found this when I researched from the Burger Website:
Map 8:
• Race map
• 97 octane RM2 or greater required. The higher the octane, the more power.
• Modifications like intake, downpipes, and intercooler strongly suggested
• Lagfix enabled
• May trigger tuner detection codes

Map 9:
• More aggressive race map
• 100 octane RM2 or greater required. The higher the octane, the more power.
• Intake, downpipes, and intercooler required
• Lagfix enabled
• May trigger tuner detection codes

In addition with 2.0 firmware users can fully customize and tune their own maps should the desire arise.

But it does not say what boost each map is running. Is there something wrong with wanting to compare tunes to see what direction I am going in cause last time I checked this was my thread about my car. To date I have only seen or heard of JB3 cars making massive torque with power drop of at the top rpm. Is there anything wrong with asking to see or find out about high powered JB3 cars that are local to me and not at the coast. It gets kinda boring comparing numbers with only Sherwin from Xcede.
Congratulations to you for making that kind of power before me but you might be incorrect as I have only chosen to document this now for the benefit of the forum members who might be interested in seeing a work in progress.
I also have never been a fanatic of any specific tune, I do not bounce into threads punting my software, I do not even go to the track with my tuners stickers on my car. Hell when Xcede got the altitude record I even offered them to use my slicks to better there time.
I am more than happy with what I got and my tuners capability as he has managed to make my car the fastest documented 335 in the country surpassing coastal cars as well as the having the highest exit speed all at altitude. This does not mean I am married to him therefore I am open to other tunes which I do research. I live at altitude and what works at the coast does not work as well here so proof is in the pudding. I am sorry if you not content with 335kw but come make it up here first.
 

Sherwin@xcede

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Official Advertiser
Twinz said:
i ran the chip logic tune at 1.3 bar already in 2007...probably the first and only guy that was bold enough to experiment....were you around then?

No George wasn't around then. He only had a 600hp M3 turbo in 1998:

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Twinz

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Staff member
Ag George now your car is also..."the fastest at the coast".....

I have just deleted a long reply...no use trying......

Sherwin@Xcede said:
No George wasn't around then. He only had a 600hp M3 turbo in 1998:
Another parochial tuner rears its head...whas that also your date of birth Sherwin:shocked:
 

George Smooth

///Member
Twinz said:
Ag George now your car is also..."the fastest at the coast".....

I have just deleted a long reply...but no use trying......

Its a pity you deleted but I managed to read it. Firstly I am not fighting with you and a little bit of arguing never hurt anyone. Again you have jumped in defense of your tune which I have again not even made a presumption about in any of my posts.
If you spent the time reading my post I said it is the fastest documented 335i. If you want to document how fast your car is and feel the need to do so then go and run the time because that is what documentation is about. Try going to a yank forum and post a time without a time slip, or a 60-130mph without a Vbox File. So document it and then you can place you claim to fame. Fastest cars are measured internationally in these two methods. Although your car is highly worked with more mods than mine and probably is a bit quicker if you do not document it you can stay out of that part of the conversation.
In regard to my torque being inflated I do not find it impossible to make 490lb/ft flywheel torque. There are even JB3 and Procede users running nearly that on the wheels with pizzy dyno fans. You should actually do some research on nxxtech and see what exits the guys are doing in Colorado that are making that power and you will see they match mine.
But anyway dyno are made to show gain and that's what I am using it for as well.
 

Twinz

Forum - Support
Staff member
Wow you were able to read my post? Were you waiting for a reply?


But now the reader does not have the benefit of my response....eish...its fine George...i can write an argue untill the chickens kak eggs but at least you know what i think of your achievement:censored:
 

George Smooth

///Member
revo@Rennzport said:
george, i have a question 4 u..

Y does it always seem like u are trying to flame the jb3, or posting that u wanna see what the jb cars can do.

Do u consider it to be the benchmark or something??
U dnt give any other tune "air time"

When a JB car and a Procede car are the international bench marks surely you would like to see the cars perform. I do want to give them air time and I would have as well as many others been interested to see a JB3 cars run at the event on various maps as a demo.

If I wanted to flame the JB3 cars I would have done it by posting all the negative threads found internationally. Although a lot of them are unsubstantiated there is interesting information to be found on them but then and again I am not that why inclined and only believe someone should pass on positive information.

There is a diagnostic tool that is being sold, I bought one myself and it does not clear all the codes. I was going to make a youtube video with the evidence but did not. Someone witnessed it with there own eyes at the gathering.

So if you do think I knocked your product then I apologize it was not my intention. Scanning my threads though I do not see where I did that.
 

Twinz

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Staff member
A friendly question: Are there any chiplogic 335/135s in Cape Town?...or should i ask are there any left?
 

///Marksman

New member
Geez Twinz, wtf crawled up your ass and died?

You constantly push the JB product. We get it. seriously we do

From me, congradulations on your acheivements George. While Terry Burger does make a mean product, it's not the only fucking thing that exists out there
 

George Smooth

///Member
Twinz said:
Wow you were able to read my post? Were you waiting for a reply?


But now the reader does not have the benefit of my response....eish...its fine George...i can write an argue untill the chickens kak eggs but at least you know what i think of your achievement:censored:

No Twinz I got lucky.

You can censor your opinion as I do not understand what you trying to achieve in this thread. We all know the JB3 is a superior product along with many other products compared to my lousy flash. I guess it bothered a little when others start achieving similar. End of the day I do not need to back up my readings to anyone. If you and Revo dispute them then so be it but the only way you can prove me wrong is by going to the track and beating my time because that's where the big boys go and tuners go to prove their product. Using 11 second quarter miles with 1.5 sec 60ft :shocked: on the other side of the globe does not really count.
Dynos are there for before and afters and by saying that certain dyno's are sick especially a day that a lot of forum members have had a great experience is both immature and disrespectful.
 

Sherwin@xcede

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Twinz said:
Another parochial tuner rears its head...whas that also your date of birth Sherwin:shocked:

How, why the insults? Did I say anything negative about JB? I was just trying to point out that George has been around longer than you.
 

freerider

Honorary ///Member
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Twinz, I dont think this post was created to piss on anyones battery, merely a look at what George is doing with his car, and what he plans to gain from it.
 

50/50

New member
freerider said:
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Twinz, I dont think this post was created to piss on anyones battery, merely a look at what George is doing with his car, and what he plans to gain from it.



Eish its got OB's eyes...lol
Thanks Smoothie and OB for the dyno day...
 
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