335kw and 670nm

George Smooth

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I am not a big fan of using the dyno for any purposes but now and then I do some runs just to make sure everything is in check and there is something wrong that I cannot feel. Here is what my car has been able to achieve on the motor over the mods I have.

1. 217kw 406nm Stock baseline with drive train losses taken with fully warmed up motor and gearbox. Tire pressures checked and put within factory spec. In fourth the runs show 228 on a continuous basis and our conclusion on this is that the tires either have more drag at that speed on the coast down or the car loads harder although the boost is the same in both gears. In all the runs the intake temperature is kept at 40 degrees by cooling the cooler. This is the intake most cars have on general cruising.
2. 242kw 418nm Stock software reading with all the bolt on's which include a intercooler, cone intakes and decatted 3 inch downpipes. Stock exhaust. It seems there are gains to be had with bolt ons, the torque doesn;t go up much as the boost remains the same.
3. 317kw 610nm This is the average lowest of three runs I have wit the tuned software. Its the daily drive map which is for use with pump fuel. The boost exceeds 1 bar but timing is relatively conservative in order to avoid the car running continuous adaption on timing due to detonation. I reckon with this configuration I will still run short of the acclaimed 300wkw at the reef run. It is possible with a once of map but the car must remain a daily driven car producing power 24/7.
4. 335kw 670nm Soon to see. Meth with pump fuel and some tuning. Estimates are a extra 15kw and 30nm. We have seen these figures on race fuel with configuration 3 so highly achievable.
5. ?????? Upgraded turbos. Its anyone's guess.
5. ?????? Meth with Race fuel

As a matter of interest and for comparison purposes a stock E60 M5 makes 301kw on this dyno.
 

Twinz

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Nice update. :thumbsup::thumbsup:

And i agree the dyno does help with showing tuning shortcomings or areas for improvement or if the car is in tip top shape.

Would have liked to see your (current) bolt - ons WITH race fuel.....:thinker:

before meth...but this you can still do when you do your meth/race fuel test....love the planning stages:thumbsup:

Your stock software reading (242kw)....Are you saying that when you put on all the bolt-ons (without software) and you put the car on the dyno you made a gain of 25Kw...? Were all these runs done on the same day and same dyno especially your complete stock reading of 217kw?

George, all the best with the planning and hopefuly those new turbos will rock our KW & TQ numbers...:clap:
 

George Smooth

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Twinz said:
Nice update. :thumbsup::thumbsup:

And i agree the dyno does help with showing tuning shortcomings or areas for improvement or if the car is in tip top shape.

Would have liked to see your (current) bolt - ons WITH race fuel.....:thinker:

before meth...but this you can still do when you do your meth/race fuel test....love the planning stages:thumbsup:

Your stock software reading (242kw)....Are you saying that when you put on all the bolt-ons (without software) and you put the car on the dyno you made a gain of 25Kw...? Were all these runs done on the same day and same dyno especially your complete stock reading of 217kw?

George, all the best with the planning and hopefuly those new turbos will rock our KW & TQ numbers...:clap:

Runs 2 and 3 on the same day. Run 2 was flash back to stock with all the mods, no adaption or anything. Run 3 is the average of runs, there are some that are higher.

All the runs have been done with the same ambient temperature and humidity. We also started the runs off in all cases on the same intake temperature.

Bolt on mods with racegas will be done. I will just turn the meth off.
 

George Smooth

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20VT said:
Nice figures - tell us more about those turbos ...

The turbos are from a company called Rob Beck. They are using TD04 internals with upgraded catridges to accommodate a thicker shaft. They direct bolt on with upgraded waist gates as well.
I should have them here early September and am keen to see how they do at altitude.
 

20VT

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George Smooth said:
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The turbos are from a company called Rob Beck. They are using TD04 internals with upgraded catridges to accommodate a thicker shaft. They direct bolt on with upgraded waist gates as well.
I should have them here early September and am keen to see how they do at altitude.

What sort of price would they be like ?
 

George Smooth

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20VT said:
George Smooth said:
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The turbos are from a company called Rob Beck. They are using TD04 internals with upgraded catridges to accommodate a thicker shaft. They direct bolt on with upgraded waist gates as well.
I should have them here early September and am keen to see how they do at altitude.

What sort of price would they be like ?

At the moment they US$2900 excluding core charge. You can get RHD cores that side for around US$400 so you can keep your stock turbos here. Then its shipping plus customs and VAT.
 

20VT

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Expensive :)

Since you can buy a brand new K04-0064 turbocharger with manifold (for VAG 2.0TFSI) for R13500...
 

George Smooth

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20VT said:
Expensive :)

Since you can buy a brand new K04-0064 turbocharger with manifold (for VAG 2.0TFSI) for R13500...

Its called BMW tax. To think of it for R13500 you can but a Turbonetics T76 :shocked:
 

UpNcOmiNg!

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Where would you put that? :D Is there enough space.
These are awesome figures!
Going to search the forum for some pics of your car to make sure I never run into you hehe...
 

George Smooth

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Updated the post with the new figures for 4. Pump and Meth. We managed to add a little boost safely and some timing. The methanol is like a miracle when your tune is good. I reckon at this point I will try get a run in after Sunday where I will be running race fuel (98) and meth without any tuning changes. I do not really think I will see a benefit. In some cases ppl start seeing a loss due to the high octane and lack of suitable spark. We still got a way to go before knocking but the turbos are close to there limit considering they also overcoming .15bar of altitude compensation.

Would be interested to see what kind of numbers the JB3 guys are doing on Map 11 locally?
 

Twinz

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George Smooth said:
Would be interested to see what kind of numbers the JB3 guys are doing on Map 11 locally?

Why?

Twinz is already pass your Kw figures on map 8...:excited:
 
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