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FerdiBotha said:
I thought some 20d's wold get close to what the 30d's are doing stock?
Nevertheless, doesn't matter to me personally, I am not after those extreme figures personally.
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320d Tuning Results by FR&R
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I thought some 20d's wold get close to what the 30d's are doing stock?
Nevertheless, doesn't matter to me personally, I am not after those extreme figures personally.
Hi Brads7
Before i had my lci mapped, i was also trying to get all info, figures and graphs so ill gladly help.:coolShake:
Map was done by ob at chiplogic.
Map is a safe, mild map, to preserve gearbox. I still have the Cat, saving up to eventually get a downpipe and remove cat.
this is before and after on a very stingy dyno
As you can see the map smoothed out the dip in power i had between 3500 and 4000rpm.
The low figures on the dyno were bugging me, so i went to a dyno day at Kar Racing, jhb's "bench mark' dyno.
this was the result:
My thoughts:
When i was doing my research i read posts from guys who had mapped their 320D's and said thy wish they should have done it earlier. I definitely agree!
It totally transforms the car. It no longer feels it runs out of steam after 3000rpm, and before where i would not be comfortable overtaking a car anywhere from 3rd gear on wards, i now have the confidence knowing i can safely over take cars safely should i need to.
Power wise, i love it. The car launches now! and somehow even sounds rortiar now even with out a downpipe. Even my friends who i haven't told that i have mapped it asked if i have done something to it because it sounds good for a 2.0 diesel. Still haven't had any runs, but im sure it will hold its own against a stock G6 GTI.
Consumption wise, my pre map consumption was 8.1 l/100km
Post map it is 7.9 l/100km/8.0 l/100km
This 98% urban driving. I never take the highways.
Smoke- if i drive conservatively, the smoke has not changed at all. if I accelerate hard then there is about 30% more smoke, BUT you only see this at night with a car behind you. I Would have love more power (really wanted to hit the 150wkw mark) but i didn't want my car smoking like a polo Sportline or Cupra that makes the day go dark with the cloud smoke.
If you remove the cat, then apparently it smokes more. But still will be acceptable and you wont be embarrassed driving around. I look froward to feeling the difference after removing it. I'm hoping it was increase responsiveness a low rpm. Then i believe il have perfect drivalbilty
I know the FR&R dyno is stingy, so i think even for a mild map, you are making very good power there :cartel:
The important thing is the smoothness of your graph and how the drive feels, and im sure you are happy with yours :coolShake:
Before i had my lci mapped, i was also trying to get all info, figures and graphs so ill gladly help.:coolShake:
Map was done by ob at chiplogic.
Map is a safe, mild map, to preserve gearbox. I still have the Cat, saving up to eventually get a downpipe and remove cat.
this is before and after on a very stingy dyno
As you can see the map smoothed out the dip in power i had between 3500 and 4000rpm.
The low figures on the dyno were bugging me, so i went to a dyno day at Kar Racing, jhb's "bench mark' dyno.
this was the result:
My thoughts:
When i was doing my research i read posts from guys who had mapped their 320D's and said thy wish they should have done it earlier. I definitely agree!
It totally transforms the car. It no longer feels it runs out of steam after 3000rpm, and before where i would not be comfortable overtaking a car anywhere from 3rd gear on wards, i now have the confidence knowing i can safely over take cars safely should i need to.
Power wise, i love it. The car launches now! and somehow even sounds rortiar now even with out a downpipe. Even my friends who i haven't told that i have mapped it asked if i have done something to it because it sounds good for a 2.0 diesel. Still haven't had any runs, but im sure it will hold its own against a stock G6 GTI.
Consumption wise, my pre map consumption was 8.1 l/100km
Post map it is 7.9 l/100km/8.0 l/100km
This 98% urban driving. I never take the highways.
Smoke- if i drive conservatively, the smoke has not changed at all. if I accelerate hard then there is about 30% more smoke, BUT you only see this at night with a car behind you. I Would have love more power (really wanted to hit the 150wkw mark) but i didn't want my car smoking like a polo Sportline or Cupra that makes the day go dark with the cloud smoke.
If you remove the cat, then apparently it smokes more. But still will be acceptable and you wont be embarrassed driving around. I look froward to feeling the difference after removing it. I'm hoping it was increase responsiveness a low rpm. Then i believe il have perfect drivalbilty
I know the FR&R dyno is stingy, so i think even for a mild map, you are making very good power there :cartel:
The important thing is the smoothness of your graph and how the drive feels, and im sure you are happy with yours :coolShake:
Cornel
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142kw is quite a lot with software only.
I take that it's wkw?
Your kw graph looks lekker.
Is this a auto or manual?
I see your acceleration time on the dyno is 7.2seconds where mine is 5.2seconds. Does this mean it's dyno'd in 5th gear?
My car feels great. I can feel a big difference in power on the road. Overtaking other cars is also much quicker.
I take that it's wkw?
Your kw graph looks lekker.
Is this a auto or manual?
I see your acceleration time on the dyno is 7.2seconds where mine is 5.2seconds. Does this mean it's dyno'd in 5th gear?
My car feels great. I can feel a big difference in power on the road. Overtaking other cars is also much quicker.
Cornel said:
I think yours at Kar will equate to similar, if not more power than mine.
yes it is wkw
Interesting observation o how long it holds the torque for. im sure he can adjust your map to hold your torque for longer. It will transform your drive once again. Your Power graph is nice and smooth. holds power consistently rite until the red line.
Thanks, im very happy with it. the Smooth torque and power graph equates to a very smooth power delivery and smooth, linear power and drive
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I think it was done in third, but im not sure.
I am glad you are enjoying it! I know exactly what you are feeling after the map, we have completely different cars now. its been 4 months now and i am still not sued to it and look forward to every drive. I am driving to Maputo next week, so i am keen to see what consumption i get, as well as how the car will feel on those amazing twistys and uphills through Lydenburg pass :rollsmile:
If you do adjust the map, please share your results to see the difference.
Especially after you fit the downpipe. I'm really keen to see what a difference it will make
Cornel
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FILV said:
I might think that yours is done in 5th gear as the dyno run is much longer. 3rd gear will be much quicker. Reason I ask is that's a 2second difference.
Will be interesting to see how it does at Kar, only problem is that I stay in Kuruman. Yes I spoke to him about it. Will see how it goes when I fitted DP. Thing is I want my car reliable. I don't want to push it to hard. If I want to go to the shop, I don't want to stress.
Yes I agree man. Should have done the SW long time ago. Didn't think it would make that big difference but it did.
Yours doesn't do to bad in town with fuel consumption hey. Mine use to sit between 9.5 and 10.5l/100km and that's with the wife driving it every day. Don't know how it will be now but will be interesting.
You will love the consumption on the open road. mine use to give me 4.7l/100km(on computer) but when I filled it up it was 18.7km/l and that was driving at 120km/h the whole time, over took normally. After the SW I got 19.1km/l and that was driving 120km/h with spirited overtaking.
I will do so. My next two trips to PTA will be a event full weekend so will only get time to fit the dp and cooler in December.
Wonder how a 335i cooler will do.
Please keep me updated with your car as well.
FerdiBotha
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Cornel said:
AFAIK a 335i intercooler isn't a direct fit on a 320d, so piping etc. has to change in order for it to fit.
The results will be interesting to see though, seeing as not many people have done it.:coolShake:
Sabretooth tiger
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I know Aadil tried fitting a 330d cooler to his 320d, he ended up selling it again, cause the plumbing was a bit tricky, and kept blowing the pipes off.
Descent gain bru...
As long as you are happy with your car, thats all that matters.
Everyone Tuner has their own style of remapping, knowledge differs from Tuner to Tuner...that is what makes the Game interesting and competitive.
As long as you are happy with your car, thats all that matters.
Everyone Tuner has their own style of remapping, knowledge differs from Tuner to Tuner...that is what makes the Game interesting and competitive.
low_flyer said:
Hi, we can also tune per gear.
flyitlikearental
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Keithan@RKmotion said:
Hehehe you 330D chaps are causing bloodshed among us S54 folk... It is amazing the ponies those 3.0 oil burners will pump out. Went to a dyno day in Sasolburg the other day, the M3 made 203wkw, and there was a E90 330d LCI that whacked out 240+ and 800+nm :RedNo::RedNo::RedNo:
That my man, is just plain wrong.
So wrong it is right.
low_flyer
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flyitlikearental said:
its so wrong its right.........:crazylaugh:
peoples faces are epic especially when a "M" or "AMG" pulls up and everyone stands watching and waiting and then a simple diesel BMW pulls on and smokes the place out literally.
which dyno was that in Sasol? 240KW sounds very strong or a very "giving" dyno.
Sherwin@xcede said:
Good to know champ. :clapper:
flyitlikearental
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Can't remember what the place is called, auto tech or something. Nah, not such a conservative dyno, just a moer strong 330d. The outfit is run by the Rautenbach brothers that used to work at SAC Engineering back in the day. THey got a couple of tyre shredders that hail from there... The specific 330d belongs to a gentleman from Vanderbijlpark, that is an absolute diesel nut. These diesels are incredible. The 4 potters are formidable, the 6 potters are savage. Would like to drop one of these donkeys into a Z3M-coupe, the car gods will probably smite me down in disdain, but an M-Car with those stupid numbers on tap and 15-16 km/l fuel consumption, what is not to like. A damn sight better than dropping a 2JZ-GTE into an M beemer. That is just sacrilege IMHO... See the Diesel in a Z3MC as an evolution of sorts, embracing the future hehehe, one can only dream right...
sash
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Cornel said:
It is preferred to dyno the vehicle in a gear that is closest to a 1:1 ratio. ON the 2.0d 6spd boxes 4th and 5th gear is1: 1.16 and 1:0.85 respectively, 5th would be a better representative than 4th, 3rd is 1:1.55 so the figure are not as accurate.
This is true for different vehicles, a vehicle with a true 1:1 ratio gear would give the closest figures( not factoring in drivetrain losses).
I know the newer 8spd zf 6th gear is 1:1.
tman
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Glad to see the 320d's making some decent power! :clapper:
Slightly OT: Seeing that we have the FR&F & Chiplogic figures in this thread,, do we have any figures from RK motion & Xcede on the 320d?
Will be very keen to see for comparison purposes... (Calling Keithan & Sherwin) :fencelook:
Slightly OT: Seeing that we have the FR&F & Chiplogic figures in this thread,, do we have any figures from RK motion & Xcede on the 320d?
Will be very keen to see for comparison purposes... (Calling Keithan & Sherwin) :fencelook:
I just saw this
https://www.facebook.com/SATypeROwners/photos/pcb.1295860440535220/1295860270535237/?type=3&theater
320D 149.7wkw 449nm at KAR
That's such good power for a 320D and Kar!
wonder what the mods are and how smooth the graph is
https://www.facebook.com/SATypeROwners/photos/pcb.1295860440535220/1295860270535237/?type=3&theater
320D 149.7wkw 449nm at KAR
That's such good power for a 320D and Kar!
wonder what the mods are and how smooth the graph is
