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2015 335i F30 or 2012 F10 M5
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Photokid
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Thank you all for the feedback.
The consensus seems to be M5. No surprises there :rollsmile:
The contributing factor is that R50k for a 2-year plan extension, together with a depreciation value of R100k a year, means a loss of R125k a year, versus a depreciation value of R50k a year on a F30 335i.
And there may be no one to buy the M5 in two years time, together with a further knock on price as m/plan will not eligible for further extensions.
Perhaps I need more convincing. There must be some reason (like it's the logical decision) that most purchase a newer 3er than a M5.
This is my current thought process.
Depreciation on the M5 is outrageous. Unless someone has had a better experience with depreciation and can chime in?
Thank you for all the input!
That isn't much more than the R16k I paid to extend the motorplan on a e92 335i for time only.
Are you certain it is for mileage to 110 000kms as well?
That quote came in at R35k for a e92 335i.
Currently driving a 2015 F30 335i, and yeah, the M bug keeps itching.
The consensus seems to be M5. No surprises there :rollsmile:
The contributing factor is that R50k for a 2-year plan extension, together with a depreciation value of R100k a year, means a loss of R125k a year, versus a depreciation value of R50k a year on a F30 335i.
And there may be no one to buy the M5 in two years time, together with a further knock on price as m/plan will not eligible for further extensions.
Perhaps I need more convincing. There must be some reason (like it's the logical decision) that most purchase a newer 3er than a M5.
Markus135 said:
This is my current thought process.
Woodies said:
Depreciation on the M5 is outrageous. Unless someone has had a better experience with depreciation and can chime in?
Llew said:
Thank you for all the input!
That isn't much more than the R16k I paid to extend the motorplan on a e92 335i for time only.
Are you certain it is for mileage to 110 000kms as well?
That quote came in at R35k for a e92 335i.
R!Yo@TheFanatics said:
Currently driving a 2015 F30 335i, and yeah, the M bug keeps itching.
TurboLlew
Honorary ///Member
Photokid said:
100% sure
From my owner's circle currently:
I renewed it online. Took a week or so to reflect.
As for depreciation, the M5 has depreciated a lot from new, but so do all cars. There are guys who lose literally millions in depreciation on high end cars - even porsche etc. You see cars from other marques such as Porsche at prices that seem to the average guy like they have retained a lot of value compared to the list price, not realising that the owner has specced nearly 3/4 of the base price in options! It kind of is what it is.
If you are buying a car at a low enough price you aren't going to depreciate down to nothing as you do with non-M cars. E60s took a huge knock but don't go below a certain point and condition plays a big role in resale. You will get a nasty surprise checking what a dealer will offer, but they give you huge discounts if you want to buy another. E39s are coming back up in value. You need to also come to terms with the fact that you are probably going to have to sell the car privately if you decide to part with it in future in order to get a decent amount of money back.
The question to ask yourself is whether you want a brand new car and to lose 700K in a short space of time and not do much mileage with it anyway... or buy one with under 50000km in good shape with plenty of plan left at a huge discount and still enjoy it for 40 or 50 or however many thousand km and lose maybe R250-300K from the time you take ownership. A 340i purchased at 735K which is what the price is now WILL eventually be a R200K (or less) car whereas as long as the E39 and E60 exist, there should always be a buffer to value for a good F10 M5 if you know what I mean. I know of folks in F30s that are so upside down on their deals that they are keeping the cars to avoid loading lots of money onto another deal. I don't think a 340i is worth 735K to me personally when there are so many other options out there but that is another can of worms for another thread.
Dees_13
Active member
I was in the same boat. Was looking at 3 x M5's (White, Black and Blue). All 2013 with + - 50 000km.
My salesman whom I've bought a few bmw's from advised me against them. If you arent going to keep the car for long then you are going to lose on it when it's time to sell. I have an issue with changing my cars every 2 years or so :RedNo: So he advised me against it.
They are sitting with those 3 for a while now, 1 is with them for over 6 months. His exact words were for the price they are selling, I will be getting a WHOLE lot of car but the market is too small for them and when I try to sell I'm going to lose out too much and battle to get rid of it.
I opted for the 335i. Taking delivery this week or early next week
And don't get me wrong, I was really itching for the M5. But decided to go with a "safer" option
My salesman whom I've bought a few bmw's from advised me against them. If you arent going to keep the car for long then you are going to lose on it when it's time to sell. I have an issue with changing my cars every 2 years or so :RedNo: So he advised me against it.
They are sitting with those 3 for a while now, 1 is with them for over 6 months. His exact words were for the price they are selling, I will be getting a WHOLE lot of car but the market is too small for them and when I try to sell I'm going to lose out too much and battle to get rid of it.
I opted for the 335i. Taking delivery this week or early next week
And don't get me wrong, I was really itching for the M5. But decided to go with a "safer" option
Photokid
New member
Dees_13 said:
I, too, change every year or two. I feel I'd be able to keep the M5 for a longer period, but I couldn't be for certain and feel I'd want to change it sooner than 5 years. And the knock on price will force me to keep it.
Not a bad situation having to keep and be stuck with an M5, but yeah.
Dees_13
Active member
Photokid said:
I hear what you're saying. I really would still like the M5 to be honest. But what then after? Not an easy car to replace
325iSmk2 said:
Supertech Durban
335i MTX said:
I'm doing exactly that. Added the mppk and mpe. Busy waiting for it all to be fitted before I take delivery. Otherwise I would've got my car this week already. The wait is killing me
Dees_13 said:Photokid said:
I hear what you're saying. I really would still like the M5 to be honest. But what then after? Not an easy car to replace
325iSmk2 said:
Supertech Durban
335i MTX said:
I'm doing exactly that. Added the mppk and mpe. Busy waiting for it all to be fitted before I take delivery. Otherwise I would've got my car this week already. The wait is killing me
Wait...did you go with my suggestion or did you also think the same? Just asking...either way Congratulations!
MCP_M5_F10
New member
M5 is intense !!!!! By far the best car i have driven , maybe get a full history printout from dealer and if all clear extend motorplan !
TurboLlew
Honorary ///Member
I'd be more worried about being in a 335i/40i in 2 years value wise when the next shape is out in 2 years... Have many mates with F30s that are upside down on their deals after 3 years with dealers offering under R300K for cars with replacement value of double (Feels like I have typed this before LOL). Dealers will always kill you on trade and private sales are usually the only way to go unless you are buying something brand new and winning on the discount side or buying an exotic where they will generally just buy you out at whatever you request within reason. Dealer will take your car at R280K trade, valet it, airbrush the front (if that) and then have it marked at R389K by the end of the week (with more extreme examples as the values rise). I know of someone who got R550K trade and the dealer had the car marked at R749K the next week. Someone foolishly traded a CSL at R400-odd and it was marked the next week at R1.2mil... so it goes. What the dealer offers and fair market value are never in the same ballpark.
With the E39 and E60 as buffers to buoy value, it is unlikely to suffer thaaat much value wise if that worries you though as with the E60 and E39, the good examples are likely to sit with their owners who are too satisfied with them to let them go LOL I won't part with my m5 in a hurry. I will add an R35 or something exotic next to it maybe when I move house.
With the E39 and E60 as buffers to buoy value, it is unlikely to suffer thaaat much value wise if that worries you though as with the E60 and E39, the good examples are likely to sit with their owners who are too satisfied with them to let them go LOL I won't part with my m5 in a hurry. I will add an R35 or something exotic next to it maybe when I move house.
Photokid
New member
The resale issue I am concerned of is when selling privately.
All cars depreciate. Some are easier to resell within that time than others. I feel if I have to buy an M5 it'll be to keep for the medium term.
Value will probably settle around the R400-450k mark 5 years from now, considering devaluation of currencies?
All cars depreciate. Some are easier to resell within that time than others. I feel if I have to buy an M5 it'll be to keep for the medium term.
Value will probably settle around the R400-450k mark 5 years from now, considering devaluation of currencies?
