2013 981 Boxster PDK

MR_Y

Well-known member
So, after a few months I finally did an open road 150km roundtrip on the N17 with the top down.
Cross winds were a bit strong but the car tracked true.
The only downside is the road noise - the wind, the exhaust note and the engine.
I have a headache and my ears are still ringing.
On my last roadtrip - from JHB to DBN earlier this year - this was not an issue. I guess the novelty of the top down made up for the noise.
I only have the standard exhaust - I can imagine how ear drum busting the Sports Exhaust must be on the highway.

With the top up, which I did for about 40 km, the experience was a lot better.
The insulation is very good.

My next Porsche would be a hard top, for sure.

The novelty of the topless motoring does wear out after a while.
 

MR_Y

Well-known member
Update @ 31,000km.

I am using the car more often, given lockdown easing a bit.
However, I am sitting in more traffic now and this has resurrected one of my main bugbears with this car - there is absolutely no power available at low revs.
Starting off from a stop, or traffic light, and with a short distance away from the next car ahead of me, it is embarrassing to be humbled by a Polo 1.0 TSI in that short distance.
Granted, if I put my foot down hard and let the revs climb, then I will annihilate most cars out there. But, that would be stupid in traffic.
So, I am actually using the Volvo more for daily running around in traffic. The torque/power is plentiful at lower revs and it makes driving in slow traffic less of a chore.
It is sad to say this, but my Porsche is becoming more of a garage queen (I hate people who do this) - not because I want to maintain its resale value, but because it is not enjoyable (or rather it lacks guts) in traffic conditions.
I have started using the car for early morning driving on weekends and for the odd weekday evening run to the shops (via a long back road and maybe the highway) to get bread.

I assume a 981 S (3.4 litre) may be the better car to drive daily, given its extra power and torque, but it is still NA so it may also suffer (though, to a lesser degree) from low rev lethargy. I appreciate now why there are turbo 4 cylinders in the latest 781 Boxster/Caymans - the low end torque lend these cars a level of everyday driveability similar to an Audi TT in traffic. However, 4 cylinders will never sound as good as 6, so it is unlikely that I will trade my 981 for a 718 - unless, it is a 4.0 model and if I had the big bucks. I may however, consider a 2013-14 981 S model at some point in the future. It may have to be higher mileaged compared to what I have now, to get to my price point.

So, bottom line. If you are thinking of a 981 AND you want to daily drive your car, rather go for a 981 S model. Else, a base 981 is fine for non-traffic driving.
 

vjx

Member
981 2.7L engine is less powerful, but you can put your foot down. Like miata MX5, not too much power, but it can rev and hold it longer. Lots of fun.
I have 981 CS. 2nd gear rev up, over speed limit. Also get embarrassed by 2.0T EA888 easily at highveld. :)
 

Del-Bosc

Active member
vjx said:
981 2.7L engine is less powerful, but you can put your foot down. Like miata MX5, not too much power, but it can rev and hold it longer. Lots of fun.
I have 981 CS. 2nd gear rev up, over speed limit. Also get embarrassed by 2.0T EA888 easily at highveld. :)

This is the only pet peeve I have with my 987 CR the gearing is too long. If you rev out 1 and 2 you are approaching very high speeds already and makes it difficult to enjoy on quick trips.
 

MR_Y

Well-known member
I watched a few reviews of the 718 Spyder and GT4 manual models (4.0 6 cylinder NA).
Everyone says that the gearing is way too long - brilliant for a race track but tiring elsewhere.
You need to really rev the daylights out of them to match the accelerative shove of the 718 'S' models (2.5 4-cylinder turbo) - especially at altitude.

However, one can argue that NA cars that love (and need) to rev to extract performance are pure driving machines.
Turbos have spoiled us - especially in traffic.
 

MR_Y

Well-known member
Update

With lockdown easing, I am planning a few extra long distance trips soon.

I have invested in a collapsible spare wheel from a written off Cayenne Turbo (the wheel and tyre are 100% fine though) and will fit it in my frunk.
 

npower

Active member
MR_Y said:
Update @ 31,000km.

I am using the car more often, given lockdown easing a bit.
However, I am sitting in more traffic now and this has resurrected one of my main bugbears with this car - there is absolutely no power available at low revs.
Starting off from a stop, or traffic light, and with a short distance away from the next car ahead of me, it is embarrassing to be humbled by a Polo 1.0 TSI in that short distance.
Granted, if I put my foot down hard and let the revs climb, then I will annihilate most cars out there. But, that would be stupid in traffic.
So, I am actually using the Volvo more for daily running around in traffic. The torque/power is plentiful at lower revs and it makes driving in slow traffic less of a chore.
It is sad to say this, but my Porsche is becoming more of a garage queen (I hate people who do this) - not because I want to maintain its resale value, but because it is not enjoyable (or rather it lacks guts) in traffic conditions.
I have started using the car for early morning driving on weekends and for the odd weekday evening run to the shops (via a long back road and maybe the highway) to get bread.

I assume a 981 S (3.4 litre) may be the better car to drive daily, given its extra power and torque, but it is still NA so it may also suffer (though, to a lesser degree) from low rev lethargy. I appreciate now why there are turbo 4 cylinders in the latest 781 Boxster/Caymans - the low end torque lend these cars a level of everyday driveability similar to an Audi TT in traffic. However, 4 cylinders will never sound as good as 6, so it is unlikely that I will trade my 981 for a 718 - unless, it is a 4.0 model and if I had the big bucks. I may however, consider a 2013-14 981 S model at some point in the future. It may have to be higher mileaged compared to what I have now, to get to my price point.

So, bottom line. If you are thinking of a 981 AND you want to daily drive your car, rather go for a 981 S model. Else, a base 981 is fine for non-traffic driving.

Thats an interesting perspective.  I live at the coast ,so perhaps thats why I personally don't feel that my 981 is gutless in traffic. No ball of fire, granted, but I'm easily able to dart through traffic. Of course I do use sport mode and the flappy paddles to keep the motor in the power band.
 

MR_Y

Well-known member
Update at 32,000km

I went to to Swartkops Skidpan a few weeks back as part of a Porsche Club event.
Even with traction control off, the car is quite easy to control (I do not regard myself as an "expert" driver).
Compared to my skidpan experience with a Jag F-Type (the 3.0 250kw S/C) last year, the 981 is on another level.
Granted I only have 195kw (less 10% penalty for N/A cars at the Reef) to play with, but it has a finesse and balance that a front engined, RWD car can not match.

I took the car in for its first service (under my ownership, that is) and it was covered by the 2year/200,000km M/plan so it was a painless affair. This was just an oil service.
According to the OBC, I have 3 services due next year - one major service, one inspection service and another oil service. My plan expires in Jan 2022, so the more maintenance I cram in for 2021, the better. Note that when you sell the car, you cannot transfer the M/Plan to the new owner, so it is best to milk the M/plan until it expires.

In 2022, I am hoping to upgrade to a Cayman 981 GTS (the 3.4 version, 6-cylinder N/A), maybe of 2015-2016 vintage. The 718 GTS (the pre-2020 models) are 2.5 turbo 4-cylinders, that may actually end up suffering on the used market compared to the earlier 3.4 version. The 2020 718 GTS has a full fat 4.0 N/A motor, but that is priced well beyond my target range.

For now, I am enjoying my 981.

I will post pictures of the Cayenne collapsible spare wheel that now resides in my front boot.
 

cato3

Member
MR_Y said:
Update at 32,000km

I went to to Swartkops Skidpan a few weeks back as part of a Porsche Club event.
Even with traction control off, the car is quite easy to control (I do not regard myself as an "expert" driver).
Compared to my skidpan experience with a Jag F-Type (the 3.0 250kw S/C) last year, the 981 is on another level.
Granted I only have 195kw (less 10% penalty for N/A cars at the Reef) to play with, but it has a finesse and balance that a front engined, RWD car can not match.

I took the car in for its first service (under my ownership, that is) and it was covered by the 2year/200,000km M/plan so it was a painless affair. This was just an oil service.
According to the OBC, I have 3 services due next year - one major service, one inspection service and another oil service. My plan expires in Jan 2022, so the more maintenance I cram in for 2021, the better. Note that when you sell the car, you cannot transfer the M/Plan to the new owner, so it is best to milk the M/plan until it expires.

In 2022, I am hoping to upgrade to a Cayman 981 GTS (the 3.4 version, 6-cylinder N/A), maybe of 2015-2016 vintage. The 718 GTS (the pre-2020 models) are 2.5 turbo 4-cylinders, that may actually end up suffering on the used market compared to the earlier 3.4 version. The 2020 718 GTS has a full fat 4.0 N/A motor, but that is priced well beyond my target range.

For now, I am enjoying my 981.

I will post pictures of the Cayenne collapsible spare wheel that now resides in my front boot.


I hope you can clarify some arguments amongst my fellow petrolhead friends regarding the Porsche service plan and warranties , seeing you mentioned that the plan is not transferable. Does this mean if I buy a Porsche from a non-franchised Porsche dealer that Porsche south africa wont honour the warranty and service plan even if it is a one or two year old car.
if  I understand your statement correctly this means the warranties and service plans are not linked to the car like BMW motorplan but to the original owner who bought the car new or the person who buys it used from a franchised dealer.
what plans or warranties do those mega million Porsche cars at the exotic car dealers [Fouche motors] have , how do that owners of a 2019 model GT2RS bought at these non-franchised dealers protect themselves and their 5million plus Porsche cars.
giving clarity to this situation would be much appreciated.
 

MR_Y

Well-known member
cato3 said:
I hope you can clarify some arguments amongst my fellow petrolhead friends regarding the Porsche service plan and warranties , seeing you mentioned that the plan is not transferable. Does this mean if I buy a Porsche from a non-franchised Porsche dealer that Porsche south africa wont honour the warranty and service plan even if it is a one or two year old car.
if  I understand your statement correctly this means the warranties and service plans are not linked to the car like BMW motorplan but to the original owner who bought the car new or the person who buys it used from a franchised dealer.
what plans or warranties do those mega million Porsche cars at the exotic car dealers [Fouche motors] have , how do that owners of a 2019 model GT2RS bought at these non-franchised dealers protect themselves and their 5million plus Porsche cars.
giving clarity to this situation would be much appreciated.

Hi,

So, based on my what I learned:

- The Porsche Maintenance Plan (Drive Plan) is not automatically transferrable to another owner. The Plan is sold with the car to the first owner of the car, when the car is brand new. The standard plan is 3 years/100,000km with a new car. The option is there to extend to 5 years/100,000km from first registration - only to the first owner.

- When the car is sold to another buyer (as a used car) - there are 2 options:
1. If the car is sold/traded in to an official Porsche dealership, then the balance of the Drive Plan is transferrable to the used car buyer.
2. If the car is sold privately or sold/traded in to a non-Porsche dealer, then there is no transfer of the Plan to the used buyer. If the used buyer wants a Plan, he needs to take the car to Porsche and buy a Pre-owned Porsche Maintenance Agreement (operates similar to the Drive Plan, but is for used cars). This used Plan can be extended annually until a maximum of 150,000km or 12 years from 1st registration. This is a new rule. Previously, the limit was 200,000km and 15 years maximum. 

- If you buy a used car from a Porsche dealer, they will automatically give you a "free" [font=Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]Pre-owned Porsche [/font][font=Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]Maintenance Agreement of 150,000km or 1 year (but, car must be less than 12 years old). Again, this is a new rule. When I bought my 2013 Boxster 981 in Jan 2020, I was given a 200,000km or 2 year Plan.[/font]

[font=Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]- The cost to extend my Plan ([font=Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]Pre-owned Porsche [/font][font=Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]Maintenance Agreement) is about R36k pa (quote from earlier this year, but will obviously increase next year)[size=small]. I can do this extension every year until I hit 150,000km total mileage or the year 2025 (2013 + 12).[/size][/font][/font]


To complicate matters further, there is another Plan offered by Porsche.
The Track Plan is for people who race their cars.
These plans are expensive.

If you race your Porsche, you will void your Drive Plan (if new car) or your Pre-owned Porsche Maintenance Agreement (if used car)
The Porsche Club is very strict on this
My skidpan event that I attended recently was approved by Porsche under Drive Plan or Pre-owned Porsche Maintenance Agreement.

However, if I race my car, or compete in certain motorsports, then I need to buy a Track Plan.

Those guys who buy multi-million Rand Porsches and know how to properly drive them, they are willing to pay a lot for the Track Plans.

Now, BMW do not have this option. If you buy an M3 and race it or even drag it on the track, you will void your M/plan and BMW do not even offer the option of a Track Plan.
 

Del-Bosc

Active member
MR_Y said:
cato3 said:
I hope you can clarify some arguments amongst my fellow petrolhead friends regarding the Porsche service plan and warranties , seeing you mentioned that the plan is not transferable. Does this mean if I buy a Porsche from a non-franchised Porsche dealer that Porsche south africa wont honour the warranty and service plan even if it is a one or two year old car.
if  I understand your statement correctly this means the warranties and service plans are not linked to the car like BMW motorplan but to the original owner who bought the car new or the person who buys it used from a franchised dealer.
what plans or warranties do those mega million Porsche cars at the exotic car dealers [Fouche motors] have , how do that owners of a 2019 model GT2RS bought at these non-franchised dealers protect themselves and their 5million plus Porsche cars.
giving clarity to this situation would be much appreciated.

Hi,

So, based on my what I learned:

- The Porsche Maintenance Plan (Drive Plan) is not automatically transferrable to another owner. The Plan is sold with the car to the first owner of the car, when the car is brand new. The standard plan is 3 years/100,000km with a new car. The option is there to extend to 5 years/100,000km from first registration - only to the first owner.

- When the car is sold to another buyer (as a used car) - there are 2 options:
1. If the car is sold/traded in to an official Porsche dealership, then the balance of the Drive Plan is transferrable to the used car buyer.
2. If the car is sold privately or sold/traded in to a non-Porsche dealer, then there is no transfer of the Plan to the used buyer. If the used buyer wants a Plan, he needs to take the car to Porsche and buy a Pre-owned Porsche Maintenance Agreement (operates similar to the Drive Plan, but is for used cars). This used Plan can be extended annually until a maximum of 150,000km or 12 years from 1st registration. This is a new rule. Previously, the limit was 200,000km and 15 years maximum. 

- If you buy a used car from a Porsche dealer, they will automatically give you a "free" [font=Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]Pre-owned Porsche [/font][font=Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]Maintenance Agreement of 150,000km or 1 year (but, car must be less than 12 years old). Again, this is a new rule. When I bought my 2013 Boxster 981 in Jan 2020, I was given a 200,000km or 2 year Plan.[/font]

[font=Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]- The cost to extend my Plan ([font=Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]Pre-owned Porsche [/font][font=Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]Maintenance Agreement) is about R36k pa (quote from earlier this year, but will obviously increase next year)[size=small]. I can do this extension every year until I hit 150,000km total mileage or the year 2025 (2013 + 12).[/size][/font][/font]


To complicate matters further, there is another Plan offered by Porsche.
The Track Plan is for people who race their cars.
These plans are expensive.

If you race your Porsche, you will void your Drive Plan (if new car) or your Pre-owned Porsche Maintenance Agreement (if used car)
The Porsche Club is very strict on this
My skidpan event that I attended recently was approved by Porsche under Drive Plan or Pre-owned Porsche Maintenance Agreement.

However, if I race my car, or compete in certain motorsports, then I need to buy a Track Plan.

Those guys who buy multi-million Rand Porsches and know how to properly drive them, they are willing to pay a lot for the Track Plans.

Now, BMW do not have this option. If you buy an M3 and race it or even drag it on the track, you will void your M/plan and BMW do not even offer the option of a Track Plan.



Is point two correct ? I always assumed you cannot buy a used car maintenance plan from Porsche unless the car was from their second hand floor. Maybe this is a new rule. This would open the market to some many new buyers
 

Clay

New member
MR_Y said:
After a week of driving, here are my initial views on my 981 Boxster PDK.

As per previous threads, I was looking for a weekend toy in addition to my daily driver. My sights were set on a Mazda MX5 RF, which I was very close to purchasing. However, after seeing a good deal on a low mileage (23,000km) 2013 Boxster at Porsche JHB, especially with a 2 year/200,000km extension included, I decided that this deal was too good to pass up. After settling on keeping one of my existing cars as the official family car, I traded in the other on the Boxster. However, I am still getting ISOFIX retrofitted by Porsche to allow the Boxster to perform the school run. The Boxster is effectively both my daily driver and weekend toy.

Let's discuss the good and bad points...

The Bad:

The spec on this car is basic. No Bluetooth, no Sat Nav, no USB, no illuminated vanity mirrors, no auto dimming rearview mirror, etc.

I had to mount my phone on the windscreen such that I could easily use Android Auto on it to perform audio steaming, navigation and hands-free calling. There is an Aux input, so that does help getting the phone audio piped through the speakers. However, the speakers are pretty weak, and sounds like something you would find on a Polo Vivo as standard.

The seats are not as comfy as my 2013 TT, but a bit better than the sports seats on my 320d F30. The seats are hard (there is no "give" as you sit on them), but strangely they don't cause any backache, even after hard driving.

The car only has 280Nm of torque. That is the same as a 328i from 1995! You do feel that lack of shove at low revs, especially when in traffic. Given that I am at Highveld altitude, I assume you do feel it even more here compared to sea level. It does get tiring to drive in traffic, since you need to press a bit harder to take a gap in traffic. The accelerator pedal is also pretty hard and has a trigger point before kick down, so needs to be carefully modulated in traffic. In traffic, just leave it in "D" and listen to a podcast or your music - you will not get any joy from this car in the congested urban jungle.

The car has no TPMS. So, keeping a handy tyre gauge in the cubby is a must.
Also, Porsche does not specify run flats for this car and there is no spare either. All you get is a compressor and sealant.

The standard steering wheel has no paddles. All you get are funny rocker switches. Rock forward for gear up and backward for gear down. This is the silliest gear change system I have seen, this side of an Alfa Romeo Selespeed system in a 1999 156. Also, the steering wheel has no remote controls.

The Good:

When the road opens up, release the shackles and plant the throttle. The car comes alive. The 2.7 NA flat 6 screams nicely and you ride the Kilowatts (195 of them quoted at sea level, but still feels strong at Highveld) up the rev range. The lack of torque is not an issue. Overtaking is a breeze too. The PDK box is brilliant - it truly adapts to the current driving situation. Audi S Tronic and VW DSG may be part of the same family, but Porsche have worked in some extra magic in their iteration of the dual clutch box. It seems that the box telepathically knows what you are going to do next. Response is excellent. Granted, the car is not as fast as a Golf R or TTS, but it drives and feels more alive. The R/S3/TTS are heavy hitting broadswords, while the Boxster is a rapier.

The car was specced with PASM, which drops the already low car by 10mm and adds adaptive dampers. The ride in "normal" mode is brilliant, even with 19s. Easily better than my 320d on 18s (run flats) and M Sport suspension. I am so glad that the previous owner ticked the PASM box. If you buy any "proper" Porsche (Panemeras, Macans and Cayennes are not), please look for this option. The only negative is that the front end tends to touch on steep ramps (however, speed bumps of all types are handled nicely), so you need to reverse up them rather.

The front trunk is quite spacious. Together with the rear boot, load carrying ability is pretty decent for a sports car.

The OBC has an excellent status monitor to check oil temp, oil pressure, coolant temperature and battery voltage. You can see when all factors are in the optimal zone and then you can drop the hammer. Brilliant.

The soft top is quick and easy to use, up to 50kmh. Sound insulation is quite good, besides for that glorious engine note from behind the seats.

The car was specced with adaptive steering (can't recall exact option name). Very light at slow speeds, but hardens up at higher speeds. The steering wheel is very thin, unlike the M Sport items you get, but is very comfortable to use.

The engine was rebuilt before the car was sold to me. There was an oil leak and it seems that the previous owner skipped a service in the past. Anyway, I am still breaking in the new engine and fuel consumption with heavy traffic and odd blasts is only 10.7litres/100km. Pretty decent I think. As a side note, I was warned that oil consumption may be an issue, initially, and they did provide a litre of top up oil.

One last point on the customer service experience with Porsche. I saw the car online on a Friday. I called the dealership and they had the car ready for me by midday. They told me about the history of the car, including the engine rebuild (short block). The paperwork and queries were handled quickly and professionally. Some work was required on the car - paintwork on the front - and this took a few days. Still they kept me up to date. I offered to pay a holding deposit, given that I could see a few other guys showing interest in the car after I had driven it. The salesman said that no holding deposit was required, as long as I signed the OTP. These may seem like small points, but it is shocking how many premium dealerships ignore the basics.

I will report back after my first service later this year.

In the meantime, I need to plan a road trip.
Nice one!! :bravo:
 

MR_Y

Well-known member
Del-Bosc said:
Is point two correct ? I always assumed you cannot buy a used car maintenance plan from Porsche unless the car was from their second hand floor. Maybe this is a new rule. This would open the market to some many new buyers

@"Del-Bosc" - I enquired from Porsche recently again and it is not that clear. 
They mentioned that the private seller (even if he is out of any Plan) would need to sell the car on consignment through a Porsche dealer (ensuring that all the checks are done) for a used maintenance plan to be made available to the new buyer. 
When I asked about buying a Porsche from a non-Porsche dealer, but with full Porsche dealer service history, then they were not clear on whether one could buy the used maintenance plan (it seemed to be handled on a case-by-case basis).
I assume that Fouche Motors and Dadas (both famous for selling low mileage Porsches at very high prices) probably have a special agreement with Porsche to allow one to purchase a used maintenance plan?


Update at 33,000km:

The car is still going great.

Regarding customer service, I was pleasantly surprised to receive the following gifts from Porsche SA this month, just in time for Christmas. I was told that this is an annual thing that they do for all their customers:
- 2 Bottles of wine: 1 x Cab Sav and 1 x Sauv Blanc - from Uva Mira (the wine estate belongs to the Porsche SA CEO Toby Venter)
- A USB stick shaped like a full sized Porsche key with a leather/metal key chain (including the full Porsche crest). On the USB, are a list of brochures and specs for all their cars, as well as wallpapers and other pictures.
- A glossy, thick coffee table book of Porsches, Lamboghinis and Bentleys (part of the the Venter Group in SA).

Even though I bought a used car from them for less than the price of a Golf GTI, and at a fraction of what their cheapest new car costs, they still treat me like a new car customer.
That is one way to ensure repeat business.
 

Del-Bosc

Active member
MR_Y said:
Del-Bosc said:
Is point two correct ? I always assumed you cannot buy a used car maintenance plan from Porsche unless the car was from their second hand floor. Maybe this is a new rule. This would open the market to some many new buyers

@"Del-Bosc" - I enquired from Porsche recently again and it is not that clear. 
They mentioned that the private seller (even if he is out of any Plan) would need to sell the car on consignment through a Porsche dealer (ensuring that all the checks are done) for a used maintenance plan to be made available to the new buyer. 
When I asked about buying a Porsche from a non-Porsche dealer, but with full Porsche dealer service history, then they were not clear on whether one could buy the used maintenance plan (it seemed to be handled on a case-by-case basis).
I assume that Fouche Motors and Dadas (both famous for selling low mileage Porsches at very high prices) probably have a special agreement with Porsche to allow one to purchase a used maintenance plan?


Update at 33,000km:

The car is still going great.

Regarding customer service, I was pleasantly surprised to receive the following gifts from Porsche SA this month, just in time for Christmas. I was told that this is an annual thing that they do for all their customers:
- 2 Bottles of wine: 1 x Cab Sav and 1 x Sauv Blanc - from Uva Mira (the wine estate belongs to the Porsche SA CEO Toby Venter)
- A USB stick shaped like a full sized Porsche key with a leather/metal key chain (including the full Porsche crest). On the USB, are a list of brochures and specs for all their cars, as well as wallpapers and other pictures.
- A glossy, thick coffee table book of Porsches, Lamboghinis and Bentleys (part of the the Venter Group in SA).

Even though I bought a used car from them for less than the price of a Golf GTI, and at a fraction of what their cheapest new car costs, they still treat me like a new car customer.
That is one way to ensure repeat business.



I fully agree, their after sales service is amazing, I believe for as long as you have a valid Porsche plan, you receive the year end gifts.
 

MR_Y

Well-known member
After a year of ownership, the car is being replaced with a slightly hotter (but not much newer model) from the same range.
Further details to follow once all is confirmed.
 

gavsadler

///Member
Looking forward to further updates.

I think the next one will be the sweet spot as a daily sports proposition from Porsche.
 

///M Individual

Well-known member
MR_Y said:
After a year of ownership, the car is being replaced with a slightly hotter (but not much newer model) from the same range.
Further details to follow once all is confirmed.

Nice one bud. Looking forward to a new thread!
 
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