2001 BMW X5 4.4. Yes or No ?

splintheter

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wikked said:
Have you bought it yet?

Have offered R80k

Hows this View from the guys HOLIDAY house

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Nicest house I have ever been in! ended up sitting drinking whiskey with him last night :)
 

Maljan

Active member
ChefDJ@TheFanatics said:
Why not look for a facelift instead?

They just look so much better.

Because at this price, in this condition and with this low mileage you take what is on offer. :rollsmile:
 

Fordkoppie

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I think its a bargain.

I am not sure what the difference in weight is between the X5 and the e39 540i, but the 540s are very light on fuel for what it is.

I know someone who had a 4.4 X5 and then sold it to buy a facelift 3.0i X5 (with a manual gearbox nogal)

He claimed the 3.0i was way heavier on fuel than the 4.4i, and the M54 was obviously much slower
 

AdiS

Well-known member
Fordkoppie said:
I think its a bargain.

I am not sure what the difference in weight is between the X5 and the e39 540i, but the 540s are very light on fuel for what it is.

I know someone who had a 4.4 X5 and then sold it to buy a facelift 3.0i X5 (with a manual gearbox nogal)

He claimed the 3.0i was way heavier on fuel than the 4.4i, and the M54 was obviously much slower

Back when we had one, it consistently drank 16L/100 and higher. Not nearly as frugal as a 540i.
 

splintheter

///Member
AdiS said:
Fordkoppie said:
I think its a bargain.

I am not sure what the difference in weight is between the X5 and the e39 540i, but the 540s are very light on fuel for what it is.

I know someone who had a 4.4 X5 and then sold it to buy a facelift 3.0i X5 (with a manual gearbox nogal)

He claimed the 3.0i was way heavier on fuel than the 4.4i, and the M54 was obviously much slower

Back when we had one, it consistently drank 16L/100 and higher. Not nearly as frugal as a 540i.
That's spot on what the obc was showing on this car.


Fordkoppie said:
I think its a bargain.

I am not sure what the difference in weight is between the X5 and the e39 540i, but the 540s are very light on fuel for what it is.

I know someone who had a 4.4 X5 and then sold it to buy a facelift 3.0i X5 (with a manual gearbox nogal)

He claimed the 3.0i was way heavier on fuel than the 4.4i, and the M54 was obviously much slower
I had a 3.0i manual x5 in UK and to date it's the heaviest car on fuel I have ever owned. Avareged 19l/100km . given it was used mostly in traffic and stuck on motorway
 

Blue Shirt

Well-known member
Ant, it looks like a bargain.

The only potential time bomb with the M62TUB44 engine is that it sometimes develop a coolant leak in the valley pan area (between the heads underneath the intake manifold). Back in the day it was a major issue, as the heads needed to come off to replace the offending coolant pipe. Nowadays, there is an aftermarket telescopic pipe available which is a much easier repair in case this should ever become a problem.

The way to check for a valley pan leak is to look for signs of coolant leaking from the back of the engine (bellhousing area).

Here is a good read on the M62TUB44 cooling system: http://www.meeknet.co.uk/e31/BMW_M60_M62_M62TU_Engine_Cooling_System.htm
 

Gizmo

Banned
Blue Shirt said:
Ant, it looks like a bargain.

The only potential time bomb with the M62TUB44 engine is that it sometimes develop a coolant leak in the valley pan area (between the heads underneath the intake manifold). Back in the day it was a major issue, as the heads needed to come off to replace the offending coolant pipe. Nowadays, there is an aftermarket telescopic pipe available which is a much easier repair in case this should ever become a problem.

The way to check for a valley pan leak is to look for signs of coolant leaking from the back of the engine (bellhousing area).

Here is a good read on the M62TUB44 cooling system: http://www.meeknet.co.uk/e31/BMW_M60_M62_M62TU_Engine_Cooling_System.htm
I disagree, I have done both my parents 2001 540i models coolant repairs around the valley pan area, the heads stay in place and don't get in the way. Only the intake manifold and water pump have to be removed to repair it.
 

Budleigh

Active member
Blue Shirt said:
Ant, it looks like a bargain.

The only potential time bomb with the M62TUB44 engine is that it sometimes develop a coolant leak in the valley pan area (between the heads underneath the intake manifold). Back in the day it was a major issue, as the heads needed to come off to replace the offending coolant pipe. Nowadays, there is an aftermarket telescopic pipe available which is a much easier repair in case this should ever become a problem.

The way to check for a valley pan leak is to look for signs of coolant leaking from the back of the engine (bellhousing area).

Here is a good read on the M62TUB44 cooling system: http://www.meeknet.co.uk/e31/BMW_M60_M62_M62TU_Engine_Cooling_System.htm
Think the valley pipe issue is only on the N62 motors.
 

Blue Shirt

Well-known member
Budleigh said:
Blue Shirt said:
Ant, it looks like a bargain.

The only potential time bomb with the M62TUB44 engine is that it sometimes develop a coolant leak in the valley pan area (between the heads underneath the intake manifold). Back in the day it was a major issue, as the heads needed to come off to replace the offending coolant pipe. Nowadays, there is an aftermarket telescopic pipe available which is a much easier repair in case this should ever become a problem.

The way to check for a valley pan leak is to look for signs of coolant leaking from the back of the engine (bellhousing area).

Here is a good read on the M62TUB44 cooling system: http://www.meeknet.co.uk/e31/BMW_M60_M62_M62TU_Engine_Cooling_System.htm
Think the valley pipe issue is only on the N62 motors.

Nope, did you read the article I quoted on the M62?


Gizmo said:
Blue Shirt said:
Ant, it looks like a bargain.

The only potential time bomb with the M62TUB44 engine is that it sometimes develop a coolant leak in the valley pan area (between the heads underneath the intake manifold). Back in the day it was a major issue, as the heads needed to come off to replace the offending coolant pipe. Nowadays, there is an aftermarket telescopic pipe available which is a much easier repair in case this should ever become a problem.

The way to check for a valley pan leak is to look for signs of coolant leaking from the back of the engine (bellhousing area).

Here is a good read on the M62TUB44 cooling system: http://www.meeknet.co.uk/e31/BMW_M60_M62_M62TU_Engine_Cooling_System.htm
I disagree, I have done both my parents 2001 540i models coolant repairs around the valley pan area, the heads stay in place and don't get in the way. Only the intake manifold and water pump have to be removed to repair it.

You are correct, I may have remembered incorrectly. The heads stay on but on the N62 the timing covers and chains have to come off if you use the solid OEM pipe. The collapsible pipe is the solution on the N62, then you only remove the intake manifold and water pump like on the M62.
 

splintheter

///Member
Thanks for the advice and prompting to buy guys. I have put in my offer, an owner has promised to let me know by end of play.

BTW it has brand new (and I mean less than 100km) Michelins on, so thats like a R20k saving :)


Petrol price up by R1.60 perfect timing to buy another V8!!!
 

Maljan

Active member
splintheter said:
I have put in my offer, an owner has promised to let me know by end of play.

BTW it has brand new (and I mean less than 100km) Michelins on, so thats like a R20k saving

For some reason I can't help thinking of this song. :rollsmile:

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freakazoid

New member
splintheter said:
AdiS said:
Fordkoppie said:
I think its a bargain.

I am not sure what the difference in weight is between the X5 and the e39 540i, but the 540s are very light on fuel for what it is.

I know someone who had a 4.4 X5 and then sold it to buy a facelift 3.0i X5 (with a manual gearbox nogal)

He claimed the 3.0i was way heavier on fuel than the 4.4i, and the M54 was obviously much slower

Back when we had one, it consistently drank 16L/100 and higher. Not nearly as frugal as a 540i.
That's spot on what the obc was showing on this car.

Hell that is what I do on the 335i - sometimes 17.8L/100km :cry: The 3.7l V6 Jeep I had used to average 16.5L/100km so this is not heavy for a 4.4.

Put me behind the wheel of the 4.4 and I will easily get it into the early 20's :crazylaugh:
 

splintheter

///Member
Guys!!! A complete spanner in the works!!

I now have the opportunity to buy:

2005 4.4i X5 Sport (N62) with 195000km on the clock

very well maintained vehicle, including all bushes, air suspension pump, chain tensioner, rocker cover gasket, coolant overhaul 25000km ago (all pipes, radiator etc) and and and......

Bad bits:

Propshaft (makes a slight pinging noise, he has a report from a driveshaft centre saying that its nothing major and to check at next service)

Oil leak - Looks like a sweat underneath as sump is "moist"

Parking sensors (light on button flashes and makes a noise if you push it, but sensors, both front and rear dont work)

Front left Xennon - Bulb is blown, but guy has receipt for replacement 4 months ago. Is it possible controller is faulty ?

Airbag Light (passenger seat) - airbag light comes on when passenger sits down. Seat Sensor or loose plug under seat ?

Realistically I can get the car for R90k - R100K

WHICH ONE ?????? :ty::smashScreen::YesNo:
 

Maljan

Active member
Cheaper but older one with no issues? Or newer one with lots of issues and miles for more money?

That oil leak could be very expensive to put right. Could be a bearing, meaning gearbox out - 10 hours of labour on an E39 (or so I hear). Goodness knows what sort of complication AWD adds. Even a sump gasket is a big job, the subframe e.a. is in the way.

The other issues could be small or big. Propshaft noises are seldom easy or cheap. Airbag sensors could be expensive. In my experience electrics on a BMW are seldomly "just a loose wire." A xenon box of tricks is big bucks.

Just grab the 2001 and enjoy!
 
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