1M Time Attack Car

ed_z

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We still have a very little HP left in my wagon but since the WR is 440 stock turbos with our poor quality fuel this will be a battle. One I will test next week again at the dyno.
 

DoC1471

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:thumbs::thumbs:Congrats,300kw on stock snaill is beyond brilliant,no doubt with time youl have the WR as well.
 

ed_z

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12.7s @188kmh 400m with 244 on the KM. I am satisfied but not absolutely convinced or ecstatic to as what my wagon should be doing.
 

DoC1471

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ed_z said:
12.7s @188kmh 400m with 244 on the KM. I am satisfied but not absolutely convinced or ecstatic to as what my wagon should be doing.

Agreed,with the power you are pushing and the fueling you should be pushing alot more esp on the 1km,how was traction?also last i checked your car was set up for track and not strip mr.Ed_z,still though very impressive time and speed there :thumbs::thumbs:


im sure with strip setup that time will be alot less
 

ed_z

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Yeah but I do not do drag racing and don't enjoy it either so my suspension setup is always track. Traction was good.
 

ed_z

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Thanks guys was nice to eventually run the car for the 1st time on a drag strip.


Did not realize there was one, any car can do it but with the correct ingredients. I tend to play around a lot with my car cos of chasing track day times etc so got a better idea of what works than many others do. There is still 20hp in the car which is on the very limit of everything but at the end of the day I just love driving my Wagon. Funny thing is these are stock settings on JB4, anyone can run these settings they are on the N54 tech site I just select various Maps and go. Tuners would hopefully get more out of the setup with fine tuning, lap top and special codes etc.



Stelios with his GTR R35 runs a constant 11.3 quarter mile with 260km/h on KM and 4 runs in a row without cooling the car down or anything. Those GTR's are very impressive if you look at the engineering side being so efficient, cooling, launch, traction and gearing etc yet brutal! All of the rest of the guys are spraying cars coolers off with water and ice.


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Thanks guys! Will be back this week on the dyno to up the HP to see what the max is as this will be the last of the stock turbo runs.
 

///Shaun

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DoC1471 said:
with the power you are pushing and the fueling you should be pushing alot more esp on the 1km

also last i checked your car was set up for track and not strip.

im sure with strip setup that time will be alot less


The tuning GOd has spoken....

:roflol:



Well done ED , a very good time and exits. The car certainly has the potential in and your trial and error is proving to be working well

:thumbs:
 

911 boxer

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ed_z said:
Thanks guys was nice to eventually run the car for the 1st time on a drag strip.


Did not realize there was one, any car can do it but with the correct ingredients. I tend to play around a lot with my car cos of chasing track day times etc so got a better idea of what works than many others do. There is still 20hp in the car which is on the very limit of everything but at the end of the day I just love driving my Wagon. Funny thing is these are stock settings on JB4, anyone can run these settings they are on the N54 tech site I just select various Maps and go. Tuners would hopefully get more out of the setup with fine tuning, lap top and special codes etc.



Stelios with his GTR R35 runs a constant 11.3 quarter mile with 260km/h on KM and 4 runs in a row without cooling the car down or anything. Those GTR's are very impressive if you look at the engineering side being so efficient, cooling, launch, traction and gearing etc yet brutal! All of the rest of the guys are spraying cars coolers off with water and ice.


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Thanks guys! Will be back this week on the dyno to up the HP to see what the max is as this will be the last of the stock turbo runs.


Don't even bother bud,wait till you get your new dryers from Sav.You will gain over 50wkw on his dyno(268wkw@Sav=313wkw@Kar)and you will easily be making over 500whp at Kar!I think with a bit more practice and some heat in the tyres you will run a 12.4-12.5 as is which is great as that is similar to a 08 GTR!Well done for today. :thumbs:
 

Sherwin@xcede

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DoC1471 said:
Agreed,with the power you are pushing and the fueling you should be pushing alot more esp on the 1km.

Not at all. The km is a heartbreaker, you need exponentially more power to run better speeds. Ed's speed are exactly right for his setup. He has a big boost setup making big mid-range torque & all it's power early with a power peak at 4500rpm. With big mid-range boost comes more timing pull up top & more boost taper up top due to pronounced build up of heat during full load in that gear.


DoC1471 said:
also last i checked your car was set up for track and not strip

Do you know what differences that entails? I do as I have done circuit & drag racing for many years.

Looks like his rear camber is pretty decent. So then you need LSD and sticky rubber for straight line traction. Check, Ed has that. He mentioned he felt his traction was pretty good. There is no strip setup that will make a difference. Except maybe runflats & open diff, I reckon that will make a difference.

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ed_z

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There is a slightly decreased footprint of rubber on tar because of the setup nature of the car but nothing as aggressive as per normal track day setup, the rears actually look like they falling into the wheel arches!
 

911 boxer

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Sherwin@xcede said:
DoC1471 said:
Agreed,with the power you are pushing and the fueling you should be pushing alot more esp on the 1km.

Not at all. The km is a heartbreaker, you need exponentially more power to run better speeds. Ed's speed are exactly right for his setup. He has a big boost setup making big mid-range torque & all it's power early with a power peak at 4500rpm. With big mid-range boost comes more timing pull up top & more boost taper up top due to pronounced build up of heat during full load in that gear.


DoC1471 said:
also last i checked your car was set up for track and not strip

Do you know what differences that entails? I do as I have done circuit & drag racing for many years.

Looks like his rear camber is pretty decent. So then you need LSD and sticky rubber for straight line traction. Check, Ed has that. He mentioned he felt his traction was pretty good. There is no strip setup that will make a difference. Except maybe runflats & open diff, I reckon that will make a difference.

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Your photo does not reflect accurately as Ed,s car is running well over negative 2 deg camber on the rears(last time I checked)and that is no good for drags,he was also running semis which have very hard side walls which are also not really suited for drags and they need a lot of heat before they work(I am running both bridgestone and dunlops).He is also running a very very aggressive track suspension and the rears are way to hard for drags,I think with better tyres and a experienced DRAG driver Eds 1M will run low 12's all day long.It takes time to learn how to launch on a drag strip and Eds car has a lot of torque that lights his tires up,I suggest that he brings his laptop next time and adjusts his boost progressively with speed or gear.I think the jb's are all you need in terms of hardware for tuning a 54-55 motor,they are simply brilliant and Ed has done a very good job of setting(and learning)his car up with it.Well done Boet! :bravo:
 

Sherwin@xcede

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ed_z said:
There is a slightly decreased footprint of rubber on tar because of the setup nature of the car but nothing as aggressive as per normal track day setup, the rears actually look like they falling into the wheel arches!


Yeah that's why I said the camber doesn't look too hectic.


911 boxer said:
Your photo does not reflect accurately as Ed,s car is running well over negative 2 deg camber on the rears(last time I checked)and that is no good for drags,

The 135 I was driving was -1.5 deg on it's RUNFLATS! That's not a major problem as the rear squats under hard launching & that sort of camber is not an issue.


911 boxer said:
he was also running semis which have very hard side walls which are also not really suited for drags and they need a lot of heat before they work(I am running both bridgestone and dunlops

I've run the Dunlop Direzza's & the Bridgestones at drag days on 2 different cars & ran 0.3 seconds faster than street tyres. The sidewalls are immaterial to this discussion, they are semi's, thew compound is softer than street tyres, they grip better than a street tyre off the line. I know this because I have used those exact tyres & ran record times.


911 boxer said:
I think with better tyres and a experienced DRAG driver Eds 1M will run low 12's all day long.

Geez, then our little 135 will run 11's then becos it trapped higher on the 1.4 mile & 1km.


911 boxer said:
I think the jb's are all you need in terms of hardware for tuning a 54-55 motor,they are simply brilliant and Ed has done a very good job of setting(and learning)his car up with it.Well done Boet! :bravo:

Yeah OK, if you say so.
 

extreme-eg

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Good job for your first time on the strip with the car

There is still some potential to go quicker than 12.7 with that exit speed

Pic below was me driving a stock hardware, tuned N54 Auto, you'll see I ran a best of 12.68 actually getting on the brakes before the traps due to it being an elimination run

Speeds ranged between 175 - 181kph

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