135i Idling issues

LFC

Member
Been noticing an erratic idle lately especially pronounced with A/C on.

N55, DCT, currently on 84k km.

As I approach a stop or robot, the idle drops very low then bounces up to around 1.5 RPM

Car switched off once as well in Traffic, in D.

Haven't noticed much idle issues with A/C off. Was at the dealer last week but all they did was the Vanos bolt recall. The issue still persists.

Any ideas?
 

Drama

Member
When I come to a stop in traffic or at the traffic light, the idle drops below 1k then picks up a bit then stabilizes. 2013 DCT now with 20k on the clock. Assumed it's normal although it bugs me.


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Mpcheshire

New member
Mine does the same, cuts out when cold when I shift from R to D, and If I shift from R to D sometimes it jumps to N.
 

Johnny135i

///Member
Drama said:
When I come to a stop in traffic or at the traffic light, the idle drops below 1k then picks up a bit then stabilizes. 2013 DCT now with 20k on the clock. Assumed it's normal although it bugs me.


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This happens to my car also.not very often though.maybe once a week.but still is very annoying!its a 2010 DCT @ 60k mileage
 

SKYF

Member
My car is a 2011 DCT,24000kms.
Never once it stalled or jumped gears.
Even whe plug n plays were fitted, it never happened.
That is not normal at all
 

akash

Well-known member
Maybe be a software issue on the gearbox i assume.

Could the dealer not just load the latest software if available?
 

LFC

Member
Sending it back next week, will update, can't be normal as its fine when the A/C is off.

Drama said:
When I come to a stop in traffic or at the traffic light, the idle drops below 1k then picks up a bit then stabilizes. 2013 DCT now with 20k on the clock. Assumed it's normal although it bugs me.
Yeah same here, although with the A/C on its alot 'rougher' to stabilize if that makes sense?

Kind of dangerous at a stop, if your foot is not firm on the brakes the car tried to jump forward.

Le Clue said:
Sounds like a gearbox issue? Anyone on the 1Addicts forum experiencing the same?
Yep similar issues, do definitive answers though!

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=611157

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=675318


SKYF said:
Check to see if latest DCT software has been installed.
akash said:
Maybe be a software issue on the gearbox i assume.

Could the dealer not just load the latest software if available?
Thanks guys, will ask them to check.


njabulosky said:
I'm scared now wanted to by a 2012 135i Dct early next year....[CRYING FACE][CRYING FACE][CRYING FACE]
Sorry bud, maybe i'm just OCD :cry:

No car is perfect! Just get it, its an awesome car especially with MP :hammerhead:


From 1addicts
I was told the 'injectors in this car are known to leak. The rough idle is from excess fuel in the combustion chambers which burns off' etc.

I'm thinking this could be the issue.

Already had the HPFP replaced, which caused a rough idle at cold start.

With the new HPFP, cold starts are fine, but the idle is rough when properly warmed up to 120 or just under.


tranzit said:
could be a boost leak
:thumbs:
This sounds like a boost / vacuum leak. Something on the intake has popped off letting unmetered MAF air in (N55) or wild MAP readings (N54). The closed loop idle system is trying to regain control over the leak but doesn't have enough control (strangle rev'ing, low RPMs, jerking). Perhaps the leak is small and without the AC the system can cover up the issue, but when the AC is on, the control system is pushed over the edge (no more room to adjust). This is the first thing I would suspect on any turbo car. If thats not the case, then look into (log) the incoming air count and see how that compares to expected values (if you can do this, otherwise BMW can do this). I am shocked you don't have error codes.

Perhaps there is something wrong with the AC, but these system have so many pressure checks (switches) and contol logic that usally if there is an AC problem it just won't turn on.

Could be the above as well
 

Drama

Member
Just to clarify, I won't consider mine a "rough idle"
And I checked today, it only sometimes does this. It drops to 500rpm then slightly up to 1000rpm then stabilizes at 600rpm. No jumping gears etc.

I'll get it checked out when it goes in for its first service next year.
 

akash

Well-known member
Drama said:
Just to clarify, I won't consider mine a "rough idle"
And I checked today, it only sometimes does this. It drops to 500rpm then slightly up to 1000rpm then stabilizes at 600rpm. No jumping gears etc.

I'll get it checked out when it goes in for its first service next year.

I think the term used is called "hunting for revs"
 
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