This thread was closed for good reason. You all need to go back and read what you have typed, think about it guys, we are grown men fighting like teenage girls!
Discussions are what keep the forum alive, but name calling and hair pulling will not be tolerated. Lets try to keep this clean shall we? I will re-open this thread in 1 week, if there is anymore of this childish behaviour, this thread will be removed. (which is not something that should ever have to happen here.)