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anile8-zn

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Ok so in fact xcede is a diagnostic outlet .
Helping problem cars make the power BMW promised .
Nice going there
 

tashen

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nsaneM3 said:
......dyno figure mean jack, lets see how the car performs on the road

Precisely! Which is why i'm so baffled as to why the other FRC boys are so hung up on our dyno figures...Are they feeling like they made the wrong choice or perhaps threatened? Why?
 

nsaneM3

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hey Sherwin, here is a simple one u claim u can make about 20 hp on a stock m3, can it be done to darrens car that already makes the same power as your tuned cars.....darren makes 256hp at snail stock, if i am reading correct u can gain another 20hp , so the car will make 276hp with software alone, i will give u free dyno time ,lets see u do this ............it seems to me that u are only tuning e 46 m3s that make below 230hp and get them running like darrens 1kw gain chipped e46m3......have u chipped a late model e 46 m3 like darrens which makes 250+whp from the factory??? with the exeception of Rads cos he has a fully loaded m3 with all the hardware..........miracle gains on an aspirated car like the m3 up here is farking amazing..........have u guys done any e36 m3s pushing more than 237hp, cos mine does that with software, exhaust and home made induction.....
 

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nsaneM3 said:
now Sherwin, why get your panties in a knot, i was simply asking a question, 229hp for a stock 4 pipe is damn weak, stock e36 m3s make that on our dyno.....and last time i checked our dyno reads lower than KAR...

What are you trying to imply? That's what it made. I just put Anile8 in his place by showing him that stock E46's (old spec) make about 270hp at ODR. So then 229 is right. But you as a tuner (haha), should know. A dyno is a tool to measure the gain. If the car comes in with 229hp, then that's the power it makes. You guys keep forgetting the pre-LED's have inferior hardware.

nsaneM3 said:
tuning an m3 is not about making more ponies it also about were u make that power......

People who can't tune say that. It's like people who can't drive or can't sing or whatever. D&G twins can't make power out of an M3 so I expect them to say that. Let's adjust the (already perfect) fuelling, make 1kw and put a strong stock car to race pre-LED cars with inferior hardware. You see where this is going buddy? You on a hiding to nothing arguing with somebody posting gains. I will take you down everytime. It's like a 1 legged man in an azz-kicking contest.

nsaneM3 said:
u not going to get huge gains from that car without hardware......unless u really have a magic stick that can produce miracles......

We do. Especially on pre-LED cars. And even on LED ones like Tashens. There are significant gains. Almost turbo gains is what the ODR guys told us.

nsaneM3 said:
we all are in our learning phase with the M cars,

I know. It shows. 1kw is not bad for leaners.

nsaneM3 said:
trust me if i was here for bragging right i will post graphs of turbo cars that we do everyday with huge gains......

have you seen our 335 gains at KAR? but yeah, well done to you.

nsaneM3 said:
dyno figure mean jack, lets see how the car performs on the road

Yeah I say the same thing everytime we break a record at Matuba.

anile8-zn said:
Ok so in fact xcede is a diagnostic outlet .
Helping problem cars make the power BMW promised .
Nice going there

Oscar, don't take this as an insult. But are you really that stupid. I don't think you are. I hope not.

These cars we did are PRE-LED. I shall go onto realOEM and post the HARDWARE differences. They have much heavier cams as well, and with the heavier valvetrain and more reciprocal mass comes less power up top.

Please, pretty please, tell you go get that through your thick skull.

We overcome inferior hardware to make MORE power than the newer cars. yes we do.

nsaneM3 said:
hey Sherwin, here is a simple one u claim u can make about 20 hp on a stock m3, can it be done to darrens car that already makes the same power as your tuned cars.....darren makes 256hp at snail stock, if i am reading correct u can gain another 20hp , so the car will make 276hp with software alone, i will give u free dyno time ,lets see u do this ............it seems to me that u are only tuning e 46 m3s that make below 230hp and get them running like darrens 1kw gain chipped e46m3......have u chipped a late model e 46 m3 like darrens which makes 250+whp from the factory??? with the exeception of Rads cos he has a fully loaded m3 with all the hardware..........miracle gains on an aspirated car like the m3 up here is farking amazing..........have u guys done any e36 m3s pushing more than 237hp, cos mine does that with software, exhaust and home made induction.....

No thanks bra, we will be going Arshad's car at KAR. He will go dyno without me being present tomorrow. Please don't blame me for whatever power it makes.
 

tashen

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anile8-zn said:
Ok so in fact xcede is a diagnostic outlet .
Helping problem cars make the power BMW promised .
Nice going there


ag shame u so cute...lets hope whatever kickback you're getting from your tuner gods involve getting a life lol
 

Sherwin@xcede

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nsaneM3 said:
hey Sherwin, here is a simple one u claim u can make about 20 hp on a stock m3, can it be done to darrens car that already makes the same power as your tuned cars.....darren makes 256hp at snail stock, if i am reading correct u can gain another 20hp , so the car will make 276hp with software alone, i will give u free dyno time ,lets see u do this ............it seems to me that u are only tuning e 46 m3s that make below 230hp and get them running like darrens 1kw gain chipped e46m3......have u chipped a late model e 46 m3 like darrens which makes 250+whp from the factory??? with the exeception of Rads cos he has a fully loaded m3 with all the hardware..........miracle gains on an aspirated car like the m3 up here is farking amazing..........have u guys done any e36 m3s pushing more than 237hp, cos mine does that with software, exhaust and home made induction.....

Another thing, stop sprouting what your D&G N75 bra's say like gospel. You know nothing about what you post. It's evident in your posts. I am making a new post showing exactly how ignorant you guys are.

We gained over 20kw ON THE WHEELS with Tashen's car. 24kw on the flywheel. With s/w only.

And after doing some invetsigations I see over 8 companies around the world getting the same. I am busy posting.
 
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anile8-zn

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Sherwin I am stupid , and u are a tuning god.
Take the challenge stop being a moffie and take the challenge .
U and your clowns think we are all thick.
I am done arguing , prove me wrong , no one cares about your previous cars
Do it again
 

nsaneM3

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Sherwin i am new to the tuning game and learning, and so are you, u are the biggest hypocrite of our times, dude b4 u started this company u used only have good things to say about frc ....

fark your records , we have some of our own, have u not heard of our g6 running a 13.08 at tarlton and not on your farm tracks.....hope this sounds familiar to you....

still to see any of your tuned cars run that times at tarlton.....even your mighty V8....trust me what i have been doing with cars for the past year with my own hands u will never dream of doing.....come take a drive to FRC pta, maybe u think we running a micky mouse operation, u will be surprised dude as to what we do here with our own hands, tuning , dyno.....give us some time , we will seperate the men from the boys soon, we dont only tune M3s here, we do a variety of cars with huge gains.......pity that this business has gone to your head, before excede u were an frc man , most of u clowns were, Preggie has been tuning cars for 7years and dude he is still as humble as they come....i personally would love to see a late model m3 make 25whp......proof is in the pudding, do it again Danny......
 

Sherwin@xcede

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anile8-zn said:
Sherwin I am stupid

I know. It's obvious.

anile8-zn said:
and u are a tuning god.

Not really, but we getting better. Got a few records with the Beemers. Must we do it again? You can bet your bottom dollar we will baby!

anile8-zn said:
Take the challenge stop being a moffie and take the challenge .
Do it again

Refer back to the 1st line where you say you are stupid. You are. Because I have taken the challenge of doing Ary's car. It starts tomorrow.

anile8-zn said:
U and your clowns think we are all thick.

I don't "think" it bra. You will see shortly. Don't edit your posts. I will show you how thick you are.

anile8-zn said:
Take the challenge stop being a moffie and take the challenge .

I will take up any challenge after you accept to race your M3 against my M3.
 
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anile8-zn

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No problem my stock m3 vs your worked m3
why not wait till next Tuesday I will have my xpipe then .
What u say ?
Hell wait till end of next week And I will have the sw done .
Then it's modded vs modded .
What u say ? Then u can say u raced a modded frc v8?
Stupid will be found out when u attempt to gain 24kw atw on a stock car.
How about u use zero correction for both runs ?
And let's get some witnesses there
 

Sherwin@xcede

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nsaneM3 said:
still to see any of your tuned cars run that times at tarlton.....even your mighty V8....

I ran 13.2 at Tarlton. In a full car. And I WILL run faster. My car is miles faster than when I ran you. MILES. Ask you bra's about the highway runs coming back from Hillfox.

But anyway, we have run at Tarlton and will run again. Watch this space, the times they will be tumbling whether you like it or not.


nsaneM3 said:
Sherwin i am new to the tuning game and learning, and so are you, u are the biggest hypocrite of our times, dude b4 u started this company u used only have good things to say about frc ....

I still say good things about FRC. They are a good company. You guys are idiots though.


nsaneM3 said:
still to see any of your tuned cars run that times at tarlton.....even your mighty V8....trust me what i have been doing with cars for the past year with my own hands u will never dream of doing.....come take a drive to FRC pta, maybe u think we running a micky mouse operation, u will be surprised dude as to what we do here with our own hands, tuning , dyno.....give us some time , we will seperate the men from the boys soon, we dont only tune M3s here, we do a variety of cars with huge gains.......pity that this business has gone to your head, before excede u were an frc man , most of u clowns were, Preggie has been tuning cars for 7years and dude he is still as humble as they come....i personally would love to see a late model m3 make 25whp......proof is in the pudding, do it again Danny......

Nice speech, and we will do it shortly. What you gonna' do WHEN I do it again. You guys will shut the fark up or carry on blaggin on like cray-baby losers that you are. Why don't you leave us alone and let us get on with proving it on Ary's car? Is this hurting you so much you have to carry on moaning?
 
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anile8-zn

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Sherwin u are the forest gump of tuning .
U might get some results but still come across as being retarded.
 

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anile8-zn said:
What u say ? Then u can say u raced a modded frc v8?

OMG. I just JIZZED. OMG! WHOAH. You have no idea how happy that makes me. That is EXACTLY what I want.

So here's the deal. End of next week you say. I will come down Friday night. We can race on Sunday.

So here on this here BMW fanatics forum I am making the challenge. My modded M3 against yours at the toll. From the toll to the bend. Sunday the 4th of April at 11pm. No togbags allowed, both cars to be scrutineered by Andre.

Do you accept?

anile8-zn said:
Stupid will be found out when u attempt to gain 24kw atw on a stock car.
How about u use zero correction for both runs ?
And let's get some witnesses there

Listen retard, you just proved how stupid you are again. We already "attempted" that. And did it. I showed you. On ODR dyno.

Why are yous shutting your stupid trap after I proved to to you what an E46 M3 makes on there. You make a big fuss and kick up facts that are wrong because you know nothing. And then I post the truth and you shut up without comment. Can you comment on the ODR E46 M3's now?

Twinz@Rennzport said:
Damn guys what is happening to this thread...:thinker: :)

Twinz, this is getting out of hand. As a neutral, what do you see going on here? We post independent dyno's and it gets shot down. Cars are to slow stock. Zeemax dyno reads flywheel.

This just smacks of jealousy. But hey, what's your neutral opinion on people mocking Zeemax's dyno?
 

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anile8-zn said:
Sherwin u are the forest gump of tuning .
U might get some results but still come across as being retarded.

Actually after investigating overseas gains, our tuning is maybe about average or slightly above average. What does that say about 1kw gains then?

Dam I'm loving this thread! Bring it on. Maybe go get some guys with more IQ on your team though. Might help. Use it, don't use it, your choice.

:clap: Peace, till the next round, I'm here all week and ready to rock and roll.
 
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anile8-zn

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I will race u on my terms .
If all goes well Sunday is no problem.
If for some reason I can't , then he'll we will reshedule I am not going anywhere
and as too odr I posted about that already
perhaps reading is not your strong point :
and boss tog bags are a way of life in dbn
u come with what u got
 

Garron ah

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Are ODR the same guys that, on the same day, dyno'd Oscar's 335 20something hp less than his brother's Z4? The same car Oscar then drove away from at a rapid rate of knots? Makes sense that the heavier, less powerful, less revvy car won.
 

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anile8-zn said:
I will race u on my terms .
If all goes well Sunday is no problem.

State your terms now on the forum.


anile8-zn said:
and as too odr I posted about that already
perhaps reading is not your strong point :

I didn't see your response to the old spec M3's making about 270hp.

anile8-zn said:
and boss tog bags are a way of life in dbn
u come with what u got

So you want to race my Stg1 M3 with your M3 with gas? And what does that prove? I though this thread was about the gains with the chip? I accept your challenge anyway. I'll probably beat you even with your gas. Hell I'm not even joking.

Garron ah said:
Are ODR the same guys that, on the same day, dyno'd Oscar's 335 20something hp less than his brother's Z4? The same car Oscar then drove away from at a rapid rate of knots? Makes sense that the heavier, less powerful, less revvy car won.

Ok so the FRC supports have another dyno to add to the list:

- Zeemax
- KAR
- ODR

What do you want me to do Garron? No dyno is right? Are your records at Matuba, Tarlton and ODI fine then? Or is that also wrong.

You know on the road the driver determines the win. There is nothing wrong with ODR or any other dyno.

When we did Radz car, we spent a lot of time on the road. And Andre & I found the holy graille of S54 tuning. I don't think it's a secret. I think the Europeans also have a grip on it.

Garron ah said:
Are ODR the same guys that, on the same day, dyno'd Oscar's 335 20something hp less than his brother's Z4? The same car Oscar then drove away from at a rapid rate of knots? Makes sense that the heavier, less powerful, less revvy car won.

Do I also need to add that a race is not determined by peak power on a dyno but area under the curve, gearing, powerband, driver, gear-changes, not to mention the type of race.

Are you this deperate to discredit us that you diss ODR's dyno? What do you have to gain from dissing us? We got a customer. We gained 30hp on the dyno HE CHOSE. He drove the car on the road and it was miles faster than it was, and against the crew he nornally races as well. Do you know Craig?
 
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