X3 xDrive 30d M-Sport – 2013

[Dr KW]

Hi Good People

Hope everyone is well this morning,

I require some guidance/assistance from any X3 owners.

A mate of mine is in the process of immigrating and is contemplating selling his X3 xDrive 30d M-Sport, which I am considering purchasing.

The specs in broad strokes are as follows:

Model 2013
Millage: 115 000 km
M-Sport
Auto start/stop function
Reversing camera
Electric panoramic roof
Driving experience switch incl. ECO PRO
Park Distance Control (PDC)
Xenon Light
Navigation system Professional
M Aerodynamics package
M Leathr. wheel+shi

 

[KPM3_30]

If the price is right and the car has been looked after, its a no brainer... Make sure it is priced in line with market values.

That mileage is nothing for a diesel engine, so don't be put off.. They are awesome, reliable cars!

 

[Dr KW]

Snap, it appears as though part of my post has been omitted:

Essentially my questions in relation to the top half were:

1 - What is a fair and reasonable value that one would expect to pay for something with the specs detailed above. I have checked Autotrader and the likes and they average between the R270k to R300k mark. Obliviously with this being a private sale, I would expect a slight reduction on this premium ?

2 - With the vehicle being out of motor plan, what are the expected maintenance costs that one would incur over the next say 3 years / 20 000km ?

3 - Is this a wise decision ? Considering that a variant in another brand could be sought for similar money, with a year or 2 left on a warranty of some sort ?

Any further insights or comments would be greatly appreciated

Thanks guys!

 

[KPM3_30]

If the price is right and the car has been looked after, its a no brainer... Make sure it is priced in line with market values.

That mileage is nothing for a diesel engine, so don't be put off.. They are awesome, reliable cars!

Sentiment is still the same as the above, despite your additional questions. It is the wisest decision, the 30d is the pick of the bunch from the F25 X3 diesel models, arguably it is the pick of the entire model range.

Depending on mileage, condition and spec level, the price will vary. I expect your mate will give you a small discount, based on the market values. This car has the spec that most people would consider, msport with xenons and sunroof (everything else is a bonus, IMO).

The biggest cost factor will be brakes and rear tyres, due to the torque of the 30d diesel motor. These cars are really not that expensive to maintain, especially with BMW partnering with Auto Bavaria Midrand (discounts on just about everything). Service the car every 10k and keep trucking, at around 150k mileage, change the dampener pulley + belts and you should be good to go.

If you decide you don't want the car, please feel free to share details :thumbs:

Edit: Based on the values (Trade Value 255970.00 & Retail Value 307250.00), anything under R300k is a sweet(er) deal.

 

[///Avi]

If you can get the car under 300k then this is a very good buy.

You won't go wrong with these motors as well. Brakes are a regular wear item but they aren't prohibitively expensive. It is within reason.

 

[sash]

more importantly, check the service history under motorplan and out of plan. This will give you an initial indication of whether it might be a problematic car or not. It will also give you an idea of what was already replaced and what will need replacing in the near future.

Things to consider;
rear brakes
tyres
dampner pulley (+-150k km)
front suspension (+-150k km)
engine mountings (+-150k km)
gearbox mounts (+-150k km)

It is not to say that things break at those mileage, but it is better to keep an eye on them and possibly cater for replacement financially so that it is not a shock

 

[zaheer]

Its an excellent all rounder vehicle and indeed the pick of the bunch.
Took me a long long time to find a clean example as there are plenty 2.0d variants all over in M-Sport.
Purchased a 2011 X3 xDrive 30d M-Sport with 115000kms on the clock a few months back from a gentlemen who coincidentally was also relocating.
Vehicle had a fresh set of runflat tyres and new windscreen when I collected.
Spec was exactly the same as you have listed above albeit the xenon headlights. Landed me just above R240k.
So far she has received an oil change and a set of rear brakes. The rears tend to wear faster than the fronts due to anti-nose dive.
Up next is to inspect damper pulley and replace accordingly if required.

 

[Solo Man]

I also agree with the above advice as i also am of the opinion that the 3l diesel is the pick of the crop. I also drive a 2011 3l d F25 X3 but the plain Jane one and am very very happy with my purchase. Got it in Jan this year and have since removed the flaps and cat and disable the egr, which is a simple process by removing a wire from the plug connector going to the egr actuator. Car is a pleasure to drive in standard form (mine is mapped). Averaged 14km/l on a 4000kms plus trip up country earlier this year, which i am very happy with. You won't go wrong by buying this especially if you can get it under R300k. Don't hesitate any longer, just buy it and be happy!!

 

[Dr KW]

Thanks Everyone for your comments and feedback on this, always appreciated !:blowheart:

Apologies if these follow up questions have been asked elsewhere, I have searched and could not find anything:

1 - Regarding services and maintenance going forward, I see that there are split views as to whether an aftermarket warranty should be taken out or not ? What are your views on this ?

2 - What would be your best estimate of the cost of services over the next, say 3 years / 20 000 km's ?

3 - Regarding the servicing of the vehicle, the current owner has only done this through BMW. Would it be advised to maintain this going forward ? Or would there be any potential downside to not service through BMW but rather through a reputable mech ?

4 - On that note, I am from Durban and depending on the answer to the question above, would you recommend any mech in the area that currently takes care of your vehicle/s ?

Thanks again guys !:blowheart:

 

[KPM3_30]

Thanks Everyone for your comments and feedback on this, always appreciated !:blowheart:

Apologies if these follow up questions have been asked elsewhere, I have searched and could not find anything:

1 - Regarding services and maintenance going forward, I see that there are split views as to whether an aftermarket warranty should be taken out or not ? What are your views on this ? It isn't necessary on the diesel cars but paying R350 a month for a warranty is worth it, IMO. I have already claimed for my dampener pulley which was a year's worth of premiums, so it pays for itself and it is some peace of mind.. The big BUT, the limits are fairly small, so you can look at a top up or accept it for what it is.


2 - What would be your best estimate of the cost of services over the next, say 3 years / 20 000 km's ? Service every 10k (R1.2k or less @ BMW), Brakes should be less than R10k for all 4 discs and pads. Other than that, I don't see you spending much else on the car, since the mileage is low. Also budget for a Down Pipe to allow the turbo to breathe a bit better and save yourself from costly repairs later on, depending how long you plan to keep the car for (around R2k in Durban)

3 - Regarding the servicing of the vehicle, the current owner has only done this through BMW. Would it be advised to maintain this going forward ? Or would there be any potential downside to not service through BMW but rather through a reputable mech ? I would keep the oil services at BMW and all other maintenance done through an independent workshop.

4 - On that note, I am from Durban and depending on the answer to the question above, would you recommend any mech in the area that currently takes care of your vehicle/s ? My car currently goes to the BMW Workshop (Phoenix), been using them since 2017 and they have a good relationship with warranty companies.

Thanks again guys !:blowheart:

My answers above.

You have a lot of questions, which is only natural but don't overthink the diesel cars if they have been looked after, which I assume is the case with your mate's car.

Did you ever buy that F30 335i, you asked for advice about..?

 

[Dr KW]

Thank you kind sir, always appreciate the feedback !

No, unfortunately things didn’t pan out on that specific deal. But fingers crossed I’ll be posting a thread in the ‘showroom’ section in the coming days:fencelook:

Thanks again to everyone for the positive feedback on this :blowheart:

 

[WIDEOPN-X5]

If you don't want this car share your mate's details here cos someone will snap it up for sure :fencelook:

Jokes aside I had a 2013 20d X3 which did 270 000 trouble free kms before I traded it in.... The 30d is even better with the common view being that 30d motor is virtually indestructible if looked after from day 1. The fact that the car likely only came out of MP last year would suggest that unless your mate drove it like a wild man from cold start everyday and ignored service lights then it's highly unlikely that from a mechanical perspective that car will give you any trouble for the next 200 000 km.

In terms of the trim and interior mine was like a new car after 270k km with the only exception possibly being the drivers seat base which was SLIGHTLY compressed from the seat time of my fat ass.

As someone above said the 30d is the pick of the X3 range and a superb safe comfortable long distance vehicle.

Don't over think this. If the car is well looked after buy it even if your mate doesn't discount it. You'll not regret it.

:=):

 

[byaru1]

If you don't want this car share your mate's details here cos someone will snap it up for sure :fencelook:

Jokes aside I had a 2013 20d X3 which did 270 000 trouble free kms before I traded it in.... The 30d is even better with the common view being that 30d motor is virtually indestructible if looked after from day 1.

On the diesel quality question. Which of the BMW diesel engines cam safely drink 500ppm once in a while? I was under the impression that 30d is fine with that dirty stuff as long as there is frequent oil changes?

For the ocassions when one drives tha car into other territories without assurance of low sulphur diesel.

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[byaru1]

If you don't want this car share your mate's details here cos someone will snap it up for sure :fencelook:

Jokes aside I had a 2013 20d X3 which did 270 000 trouble free kms before I traded it in.... The 30d is even better with the common view being that 30d motor is virtually indestructible if looked after from day 1.

On the diesel quality question. Which of the BMW diesel engines cam safely drink 500ppm once in a while? I was under the impression that 30d is fine with that dirty stuff as long as there is frequent oil changes?

For the ocassions when one drives tha car into other territories without assurance of low sulphur diesel.

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Ah found the answer on BMW site.

On the X5, the xdrive30d on F15, E70 is EU3, so no DPF and it can guzzle 500ppm.

Unfortunately the 40d and 25d, and M50d are not, so those have the DPF. It also looks like the G05 is EU6, so no luck there.

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[Cornel]

That's some proper specs on a X3. I tried to get one with Nav but there was non available when i searched for one.

Maintenance I haven't done much yet. These motors is pretty solid.
When I bought the car @132k km, they serviced it and replaced the brakes at BMW plus a new set of tyres all round.
8 Months later, I replaced the tyres in the rear and 2 months later the fronts. I've also done brakes again. This was after i put around 25-27k on the car.

Also note that I've done DP and SW.

If you looking adding a little extra to the car, give me a shout or read my project thread.