V8 M3 Software Upgrade

[///Shaun]

Chat to Sherwin from Xcede.

All you need to unleash HP from the V8M is

1) Map
2) Xpipe

Map alone on a V8M works. I personally know a few V8s that have map alone and the cars have run 12.9sec on the strip , so YES map alone works but i would suggest to go point 1 and 2 together to really see the difference.

You will be shocked at how the XPIPE works wonders on this car. I have driven and been in cars with these mods. Its shocking how small mods work when done CORRECTLY.

If you really want faster accerleration : DIFF ratio mods is what is required.

Im in the same boat as you and Im currently saving for a proper Xpipe then im going GTI hunting :lol:

On a side note , i have said it before and i will say it again , i really hope there are tuners out there that can actually give useful info to users. All i see is tuners selling products instead of offering advise.

The reason i suggest Sherwin from Xcede is cause of the great service and advise he offers over and above , he has owned E90 M3 and now E92 M3 Supercharged. The development of his software was done on his own cars before marketing it. For me thats KEY ! Its not software being tuned overseas etc its software being written specifically for you car right here in SA. I do agree there are other tuners that can do the same but i would highly suggest looking at aftersales services ( that what counts the most)

Example car out of the many they have done :

Video is a must watch , done at WRC Dyno and many will agree its no happy dyno so to say , so what you see is very realistic. (This is my mates car)

http://www.xcedeperformance.co.za/2011/03/xcede-e9x-m3-exhaust-exceeds-expectations/


Hope this helps

:thumbs:

 

[moranor@axis]

Hi Guys

Looking to upgrade the software on my E90 M3. Want to hear from owners which vendor they used and why. Please PM details.

Thanks
:=):

ok i see what you guys are saying... the guy was asking about tuners not what mods to do to his car...

soo im going to say chiplogic seeing as Devtri is in JHB and i know they do good work :fencelook:



on the other hand Devtri seemed interested in the charger so maybe it was not irrelevant :rollsmile:

Starter Kit SK-I with 60KW / 125Nm is R80k ex warehouse

is that wkw and what is the price including delivery and fitting ?

 

[dvst8]

Yep, there are a few good tuners in jhb for the M. Chiplogic and Motronic have done some good work as I mentioned earlier.

My personal choice will be Xcede. Having had my cars tuned by Sherwin and racing my Cupra under the Team Xcede banner, I can only speak on the awesome service and on how happy I am with the way th car runs.

At the end of it, no matter where Devtri gets the car tuned, provided its a reputable tuner there will be gains and it wont be a waste IMHO.

 

[Devtri]

Thank you everyone for the advice, it will all be taken into consideration.

I have the decatt already thus was asking about the software. Have heard loads of stories about mp's being cancelled due to the maps loaded therefore I specifically asked about software.

Basically, I will go with any tuner who is prepared to prove to me that their software will not get picked up as my car has very low mileage and not prepared to lose the mp on it. So how would one you prove it in my opinion, load the software in front of me and lets drive it to a dealership for a check. I know I am asking a lot but I have a lot to lose too. :sorry:

 

[moranor@axis]

i dont think any tune is impossible to find if they look hard enough, but they not going to spend hours checking every M3 that comes in so if you dont give them a reason to look you should not be caught...

it is however taking a risk, but that said there are plenty tuned cars running with MP intact

 

[Rolf]

Basically, I will go with any tuner who is prepared to prove to me that their software will not get picked up as my car has very low mileage and not prepared to lose the mp on it. So how would one you prove it in my opinion, load the software in front of me and lets drive it to a dealership for a check. I know I am asking a lot but I have a lot to lose too. :sorry:

Mission Impossible!

 

[dvst8]

Basically, I will go with any tuner who is prepared to prove to me that their software will not get picked up as my car has very low mileage and not prepared to lose the mp on it. So how would one you prove it in my opinion, load the software in front of me and lets drive it to a dealership for a check. I know I am asking a lot but I have a lot to lose too. :sorry:

Mission Impossible!

Dont think any tuner will guarantee your MP.

 

[Rolf]

Anyone who believes in some Mod and Motorplan story lives in Fairy land and is a daydreamer!

It's been discussed a 1000 times so please use the seach function as its getting anoying :argh:

 

[Devtri]

Anyone who believes in some Mod and Motorplan story lives in Fairy land and is a daydreamer!

It's been discussed a 1000 times so please use the seach function as its getting anoying :argh:

You would be surprised Rolf as to what you can get promised to you these days. Sorry to waste your time but I did ask for pm's and not a discussion.

 

[Rolf]

I made it a discussion as its of interest to ALL members!

Furthermore it is of interest WHO makes such promises which in my eyes are fraudulent.

Don't know what othermembers think so that as well should be discussed in open public

 

[Devtri]

That is exactly what I am trying to ascertain. Is it true that I can get my software updated even with the anti tuning on my car and not have issues at service time ? I know this may have been discussed previously but technology and expertise increase over time so maybe it is possible now like I have been told.

 

[Rolf]

Do you believe me when I tell you that the odo reading is stored in your key?

So if you believe me in that do you believe me that certain other data -one might call it anti tune- are also stored in that very same key?

Do you also believe me that when accessing the ECU only certain areas of the ECU can be read by "non BMW people"?

And if you believe me that then you should believe me that BMW can store data in hidden places where "non BMW people" would never ever think they are stored.....

However I do agree in the saying that what one man can do, another man can undo!
But this takes time, knowledge and last but not least "connections" to the right places and they are definitively NOT in South Africa.

Wish you best of luck if someone makes that promise, you believe him and you have a claim later from your MP!

Better get it in writing! :idea:

 

[Rennzport]

Just a question... If you have that much to lose if your mplan is cancelled, why are you looking to mod?
Everyone that modifies their cars knows that there are risks when it comes to mplan/warranty and nobody can guarantee you anything unless its mplan approved.
You are either prepared to take this risk or not... ?

(My opinion)

 

[tcal69]

Just a question... If you have that much to lose if your mplan is cancelled, why are you looking to mod?
Everyone that modifies their cars knows that there are risks when it comes to mplan/warranty and nobody can guarantee you anything unless its mplan approved.
You are either prepared to take this risk or not... ?

(My opinion)

+1:thumbs:

 

[Devtri]

Just a question... If you have that much to lose if your mplan is cancelled, why are you looking to mod?
Everyone that modifies their cars knows that there are risks when it comes to mplan/warranty and nobody can guarantee you anything unless its mplan approved.
You are either prepared to take this risk or not... ?

(My opinion)

I would like to make an informed decision about the software mods as I have heard various information on the topic and yes, i don't want to risk mp, hence the thread. Does that answer your questions ?

 

[George Smooth]

Just a question... If you have that much to lose if your mplan is cancelled, why are you looking to mod?
Everyone that modifies their cars knows that there are risks when it comes to mplan/warranty and nobody can guarantee you anything unless its mplan approved.
You are either prepared to take this risk or not... ?

(My opinion)

I would like to make an informed decision about the software mods as I have heard various information on the topic and yes, i don't want to risk mp, hence the thread. Does that answer your questions ?

Stick to a stock limiter and speed governor and you 99.99% safe if for some reason they have to scrutinize your car.

 

[Mike1]

If you cannot afford the maintenance on the car without motorplan, then you cannot afford to modify the car.

Any modification to your vehicle will suspend your Motorplan. It is that simple, you signed a Motorplan agreement and CPA Motorplan agreement prior to delivery and all the requirements and rules were there.

Anyone that tells you that modifications to the vehicles Ecu won't be detected immedietly by the dealer is lying to you.

You have to pay to play, if you can't pay then you have bought the wrong car.

 

[Rolf]

Stick to a stock limiter and speed governor and you 99.99% safe if for some reason they have to scrutinize your car.

This is by far the best contribution to the whole thread and I wonder why I didn't post that :idea:

 

[Devtri]

Stick to a stock limiter and speed governor and you 99.99% safe if for some reason they have to scrutinize your car.

This is by far the best contribution to the whole thread and I wonder why I didn't post that :idea:

I agree. That is exactly the kind of information I need. I am not going to get drawn into conversations over how many cars I have or if I can afford to maintain my cars.

Thanks George and Rolf, this gives me a good inference as to the answer to my question. :thumbs:

I most probably won't do the mod as it is easier to trade in a car to bmw with a mp than without when I upgrade to the new spec in a year or so.

 

[dvst8]

Just a question... If you have that much to lose if your mplan is cancelled, why are you looking to mod?
Everyone that modifies their cars knows that there are risks when it comes to mplan/warranty and nobody can guarantee you anything unless its mplan approved.
You are either prepared to take this risk or not... ?

(My opinion)

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