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Taking my car to Dr Auto electric as Bosh is over priced. From what I have been told after asking around, it is too much fuel being pumped in or the turbo breather, also known as the ERG. Let see what the diagnostic shows. Will keep everyone updated 
For those who what to change their turbo filter (DIY) I found this website
http://www.bmwland.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=51724
For those who what to change their turbo filter (DIY) I found this websitehttp://www.bmwland.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=51724
netercol
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mike_sa said:Taking my car to Dr Auto electric as Bosh is over priced. From what I have been told after asking around, it is too much fuel being pumped in or the turbo breather, also known as the ERG. Let see what the diagnostic shows. Will keep everyone updated
http://www.bmwland.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=51724
turbo breather?? what is that?? gotta love todays mechanics.. you mean crankcase breather..
Dear Mike,
This is a "been there done that" scenario with my first e46 320d fl.. Stop wasting good money on small parts hoping that the problem will go away,
White smoke=oil being burnt in the combustion chamber..
Black smoke=overfuelling... However the Ecu will retard fueling extensively if there is a lack of boost from the turbo so that almost always is caused by leaky injectors...
Your turbo is failing or already failed... Remove the outlet pipe from the turbo to the inter cooler and you will find significant amounts of oil, not just smearing... This oil is also collecting in your intercooler and soon enough will also start coming out your exhaust from the damaged turbo, worse case scenario is the amount of oil coming through the turbo into the intake will cause the engine to "run away" and then you will cause some major damage...
The presence of oil in your exhaust will also clog up your cats and that's more expense to replace or decat, the crankcase breather that the mechanics speak of will need to be changed as well with the turbo or the replacement will be doomed to failure as well, this is probably the reason that the turbo failed anyway. be sure to change to a "vortex" type and the part number for such can be found by searching the forum or using realoem.com
Find a good mechanic, ask him to quote labour to remove and replace and get the replacement turbo from turbodirect.co.za
They had the turbo for your car for approx R7500 for a genuine replacement unit, do not try and service the old unit as there is no replacement parts or kits available from Garrett who manufacture the turbo...
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but its the reality with the 320d motor and must be catered for in its maintainence, lastly, if you find "cheaper" fong kong replacement parts for cheaper on gumtree or so on, stay away from it like the plague! They don't last and some don't even boost properly...
Keep us updated as things unfold...
This is a "been there done that" scenario with my first e46 320d fl.. Stop wasting good money on small parts hoping that the problem will go away,
White smoke=oil being burnt in the combustion chamber..
Black smoke=overfuelling... However the Ecu will retard fueling extensively if there is a lack of boost from the turbo so that almost always is caused by leaky injectors...
Your turbo is failing or already failed... Remove the outlet pipe from the turbo to the inter cooler and you will find significant amounts of oil, not just smearing... This oil is also collecting in your intercooler and soon enough will also start coming out your exhaust from the damaged turbo, worse case scenario is the amount of oil coming through the turbo into the intake will cause the engine to "run away" and then you will cause some major damage...
The presence of oil in your exhaust will also clog up your cats and that's more expense to replace or decat, the crankcase breather that the mechanics speak of will need to be changed as well with the turbo or the replacement will be doomed to failure as well, this is probably the reason that the turbo failed anyway. be sure to change to a "vortex" type and the part number for such can be found by searching the forum or using realoem.com
Find a good mechanic, ask him to quote labour to remove and replace and get the replacement turbo from turbodirect.co.za
They had the turbo for your car for approx R7500 for a genuine replacement unit, do not try and service the old unit as there is no replacement parts or kits available from Garrett who manufacture the turbo...
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but its the reality with the 320d motor and must be catered for in its maintainence, lastly, if you find "cheaper" fong kong replacement parts for cheaper on gumtree or so on, stay away from it like the plague! They don't last and some don't even boost properly...
Keep us updated as things unfold...
D
Dippies
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turbo breather?? what is that?? gotta love todays mechanics.. you mean crankcase breather..
:biglol: :bangdesk:
Ja some macie
Kish summed it up nicely :thumbs::thumbs:
mike this is not the worst thing in the world. Think of it this way, once it replaced the car will def go again, and its not the end of the world. No need to sell the car.
Don't get discouraged. Good luck. :thumbs:
:biglol: :bangdesk:
Ja some macie
Kish summed it up nicely :thumbs::thumbs:
mike this is not the worst thing in the world. Think of it this way, once it replaced the car will def go again, and its not the end of the world. No need to sell the car.
Don't get discouraged. Good luck. :thumbs:
netercol
New member
just fyi, there is replacement parts available from garret, the reason garret does not want VNT turbo's rebuild is because of it taking a flowbench to properly calibrate the vnt mech.. but the point is most of the major parts, including bearings is freely available from garrett..
have a look at this thread, the member in post 8 has a turbo for sale.. worth contacting him for a price..
http://www.bmwfanatics.co.za/showthread.php?tid=24931
http://www.bmwfanatics.co.za/showthread.php?tid=24931
I took my car to a friend that owns his own garage, he works on bmws mostly and identified the problem immediately, he said it was not my turbo, luckily, but rather the injectors that were faulty. Now my bmw has 4 injectors… He will have to lift my car to see how many are gone as I was pressed for time and he did a quick check. He could not give me a quote as such, but on Friday I will take it too him to service and fix. I called bmw to find out the cost per injector, the quoted me R7800.00… as much as a turbo from Turbo dynamics… Can anyone please give me a proper price for what an injector goes for???
netercol
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mike_sa said:
and he knows this for a fact.. how?? ive had 3 bmw turbo diesels and have NEVER had to replace a injector on any of them, nevermind all four, and my current one has 250k on the clock with original injectors..
so now you want to escape having to maybe change a turbo for +/- R9k, by replacing four injectors for R32K??? (that is the price for new injectors btw)
have you had the error codes read like was sugested? that will tell you what the fault is, and will lead to you not having to fork out cash left right and center because of guesswork..
mike_sa said:
I am with Netercol on this one... This sounds absurd! I have had 2 e46 diesels and my last 330D I drove the crap out of and sold on 234000km on the clock and it ran better than some e90s... Was no diagnostic done? No smooth running tests? Any error codes? As you stated there was white smoke present, that will not be caused by injector/s being faulty...
Anyways, Diesal electric/Bosch in Durban has genuine injectors for 2300 a piece.. If you insist on changing them then give it them a call..
For a little amusement give bmw a call and ask how much will they cost to buy one injector through them........:fencelook: but yes that is the problem, like i said i still have to do a full check on the extent of the damage... If i am not mistaken, do you not always replace all 4 at once? I will give diesel electric a call today for a quote. I did a diagnostic and the only error code that came up was that i had to replace the glow plugs, other than that, nothing else came up. Look either have to trust your mechanic or not, and the smoke is grey not white, well hard to tell... We did have a look at the turbo and it is fine...
