tuning e36 M3

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Burgy@ProjectShift said:
Small sc or big sc, when youre talking ablout small gains, it doesnt matter the size of the sc. The boost is determined by the pulley wheel.

you going to pay about 30k for a Vortech, Paxton etc, just the unit itself.

I also would advise against doing a 'cheap' sc..

I did not say cheap.

I’m talking about a value alternative to the obvious “con” of chip tuning normally aspirated cars.

The advantages of forced induction is undeniable, and one do not need build a 500HP monster, some may be happy with the 17% odd we are robbed by the drop in air pressure at the reef, no arguing these M cars run like stink at the coast, in stock form…

I think it is clear where I am going with this. I’ll leave it there.
 

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Herman, I definitely agree, but unfortunately the costing of the units in question are just too high to make an affordable kit
 

///Shaun

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You biggest gain on the car will be exhaust and by removing the snorkels from inside the airbox.

Feed a cold air pipe into the stock airbox for it to breathe more freely.

The likes of unichip etc will work but all you really doing is allowing the motor to rev by removing the limiter.

Next mod I would look at is a DIFF change. This is a poor mans version of a supercharger. Your biggest wins will come from this mod , not KW ratings.

I can go on with mods but the above is basic mods that will keep the car looking like its still stock as you requested.

If you need help PM me, I will send you lots of pics.

Enjoy the car and be safe out there with this animal

:thumbs:


B16A4 said:
my car is also a stock 3.2 but i have always been scared of taking on a healthy E46 m3 topend because they seem too strong:fencelook:

Never , hardware changes and you will easily run with E46M3s.

one word = DIFF

3.2 with 6speed box loves topends

:thumbs:

My ex E36M3 vs Lumina SS on topend :

http://www.clipmoon.com/videos/2023606/m3-vs-lumina-ss.html


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BaruschS

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i have heard of guys using sc units from the merc kompressor range, would this not be possible to do such a conversion for running small boost to compensate for the loss of power at the reef?
 

bex-ed

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I'm normally weary of supercharger or turbo conversions... they tend to be unreliable, especially for a daily driver. However, they are perfectly fine on a track toy or if you have deep pockets.

For those working on a budget, you're better off avoiding such. It's not worth the hassle.
Such conversions normally require a lot of changes in the engine bay, and maintenance intervals are drastically reduced e.g. a car serviced at 15 000kms tends to drop to about 7 to 8 000kms - or less.

Rather put that money towards keeping your car in tip-top shape and making it the best example it can be... original parts - and all that jazz. :thumbsup:
 

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E30 Freak said:
Myself & Fiekie_M3 did some research on this matter & there are no gains to be made from an Exhaust change other than sound.

The stock system is optimum for the S50 motors.

When I got mine there was a chip on, we removed it & the car drove smoother after that.

Car was at APS & I was advised that I could expect a 5kw gain which was not worth the effort & I agreed.

I would suggest making sure that your Vanos works 100s coz that seems to be where alot of E36 M3's lose their power over the years. Speak to Moranor about a vanos repair kit.

FYI, my car is bone stock besides decat & I can outrun E46 M3's on top as well as modded G6 GTI's....proof is in the pudding

What he said :thumbs:

I've also researched this like crazy and on the 3.0 it's not really that beneficial. Most expensive systems promise around 3-4hp increases, but to me, the cost vs gain was not warranted...

If you want better acceleration and response, my suggestion is do the lightened flywheel mod :thumbs:


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Rodney///Marsh

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thank you guys for all the feedback. it is really appreciated. now I know exactly what I need to do.. Leave it as is.. LOL:roflol::roflol:
 

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Rodney///Marsh said:
thank you guys for all the feedback. it is really appreciated. now I know exactly what I need to do.. Leave it as is.. LOL:roflol::roflol:

Fit a wing and an art car wrap:

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Best mod ever :rollsmile:


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Fuzz said:
Rodney///Marsh said:
thank you guys for all the feedback. it is really appreciated. now I know exactly what I need to do.. Leave it as is.. LOL:roflol::roflol:

Fit a wing and an art car wrap:

uqede4et.jpg


Best mod ever :rollsmile:


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Why you don't do that?!
A little birdie told me you bought a 2JZ for the yellow M? :fencelook:
 

B16A4

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E30 Freak said:
http://www.europeancarweb.com/tech/0301ec_bmw_e36_exhaust_testing/

Tests done on US car but you can see how the various outputs of the exhausts compare to stock
There are guys on the forum who have done tests previously and saw some gains on the exhaust, so i would rather recommend the local tests. OP can try search on the old threads and decide from there.
all i can see is that the older generation have moved on from the E36 m3 discussions to x35i, hence this discussion cant be as strong as it use to be:fencelook:
 

Burgy

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bex-ed said:
I'm normally weary of supercharger or turbo conversions... they tend to be unreliable, especially for a daily driver. However, they are perfectly fine on a track toy or if you have deep pockets.

For those working on a budget, you're better off avoiding such. It's not worth the hassle.
Such conversions normally require a lot of changes in the engine bay, and maintenance intervals are drastically reduced e.g. a car serviced at 15 000kms tends to drop to about 7 to 8 000kms - or less.

Rather put that money towards keeping your car in tip-top shape and making it the best example it can be... original parts - and all that jazz. :thumbsup:

Not all forced induction aftermarket cars are unreliable. I have built a few supercharged cars that have not had a days issue.

They must be mapped correctly, have the right hardware (no chinese junk) and be built correctly.

If you are using the correct oil and filters etc, why would you need to service it every 8000km? Does the oil get more dirty when force is applied?
 

bex-ed

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Burgy@ProjectShift said:
bex-ed said:
I'm normally weary of supercharger or turbo conversions... they tend to be unreliable, especially for a daily driver. However, they are perfectly fine on a track toy or if you have deep pockets.

For those working on a budget, you're better off avoiding such. It's not worth the hassle.
Such conversions normally require a lot of changes in the engine bay, and maintenance intervals are drastically reduced e.g. a car serviced at 15 000kms tends to drop to about 7 to 8 000kms - or less.

Rather put that money towards keeping your car in tip-top shape and making it the best example it can be... original parts - and all that jazz. :thumbsup:

Not all forced induction aftermarket cars are unreliable. I have built a few supercharged cars that have not had a days issue.

They must be mapped correctly, have the right hardware (no chinese junk) and be built correctly.

If you are using the correct oil and filters etc, why would you need to service it every 8000km? Does the oil get more dirty when force is applied?

Does the oil get more dirty when force is applied?
To address this: Changing oil on any car regularly, even between service intervals, is recommended. It keeps your engine performing optimally for longer.
I do so every 3 to 4 000kms.

As for forced induction conversions, even the best done ones sometimes have niggly bits to remedy after the initial installation. And often such work comes with many changes to the car i.e. the brakes, clutch kit, etc.
But then again, proper execution is dependent on what the client can afford or is willing to spend.

Like I wrote, for someone working on a budget, that's too much. Most people who want fast street cars don't have the funds to cover any sudden issues that arise during the process of such modifications. The one thing they focus on is the engine bay, and even then, some want to skimp on certain components.

This is in no way doubting your experience, but mine has been such.
 

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Kimeran said:
Fuzz said:
Rodney///Marsh said:
thank you guys for all the feedback. it is really appreciated. now I know exactly what I need to do.. Leave it as is.. LOL:roflol::roflol:

Fit a wing and an art car wrap:

uqede4et.jpg


Best mod ever :rollsmile:


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Why you don't do that?!
A little birdie told me you bought a 2JZ for the yellow M? :fencelook:

Eish, I'll do my conversion when you gut your iS and fit a 1Jz :roflol:


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Rodney///Marsh

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guys.. I am feeling a guttered.. the deal may not be going through.. so its back to the drawing board. If anyone knows of a e36 Coupe M3 up for grabs, please give me a shout
 
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