The E46 M3 Chip test, courtesy of Ary

Sherwin@xcede

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You know, sometimes in life you fail. And sometimes you succeed. I am pleased to report that today I succeeded. I am sitting here in my lounge typing this & thinking, "It's good when you are right & the naysayers are wrong."

Because you see, let me tell you why I am as pleased as punch. When there is a fight on this or any other forum, the neutrals are seeing people arguing. It does tend to get heated & name-calling & the like ensues.

But the neutrals that don't know both camps, don't know who is right & who is wrong. They don't know who it lying & who isn't. They just reading an argument on the internet & it's hard to decide who is telling the truth.

Well I can tell you that I am right & NSane, Boned (still love you tho) & Anal (no comment) are wrong. I was tasked with flashing a new spec, strong M3 and see if we can gain over 20whp. I was asked by Anal to ensure there is no correction. I was asked if this here gain, can be proven to be repeatable.

Well, check, check & check. All done.

We gained over 20hp on Ary's car. The dyno is a Dastek loading dyno totally uncorrected identical to ODR's, and the the gain was the same on Rowen's car which we dyno'd tonight as well.

Tonight Ary made 255hp under load (didn't print that run, but everyone saw it). Stock s/w Ary made 231hp under load on the same dyno. That's a 24hp gain ON THE WHEELS UNCORRECTED!

After running Ary's car, we put Rowen's on the rollers & I fine-tuned it on the dyno from 249hp to 254hp & about 12-13NM gain as well. So both cars are within 1hp of each other & both gained around 25 wheel hp.

And this time we took a strong stocker, not a weak one. This dyno has no correction & so it reads lower than KAR, Snail etc. A stock CSL dyno'd 225hp under load there. So Ary's car was not weak for the 231hp run. Obviously he had his decatt or whatever else, Ary can elaborate on what he had hardware-wise for his stock run. But the point is that nothing changed besides the tuning.

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And below are some comments from which now, in hindsight, are actually quite funny. I did exactly what I said I would do. I took Ary's car & gained 24hp on the wheels, & he was there the whole time to see what I was doing. There is no smoke & mirrors. This is real. Next time don't mock something because you or your crew cannot do it. There may well be others that can.

NsaneM3 said:
u can take the title as the m3 tuning god....cos nobody can come close to your tuning skills....lets wait and see the results of your power gains on the newer 4pipes.....and dude u guys also produce weak results on the 4pipes,must i get the customer to post?at least we try to better our gains, we dont offer refunds and pretend we are tuning gods.....

bmw should hire u dude, u the man when it comes to tuning m3s....your chip tuning skills alone will save them billions cos they are also idiots who cant gain power from their own technology...
word on the street is that god personally trained u to tune these m cars.....hence the miracles....all hail Sherwin the M3 tuning god...

....i personally would love to see a late model m3 make 25whp......proof is in the pudding, do it again Danny......

anal8-zn said:
Ok so in fact xcede is a diagnostic outlet .
Helping problem cars make the power BMW promised .

gains like this should be repeatable on 99 percent of the cars you do, i have not heard of one after craig.

Nice going there

anycase do it again just for an encore
get ary a 24hp atw gain

Stupid will be found out when u attempt to gain 24hp atw on a stock car.
How about u use zero correction for both runs ?
And let's get some witnesses there
 

Wild BMW

New member
Lol :thumbsup:
Awesome gains there.
There is a blue e46 M3 with Xcede software and some mods that did a 13.1 at matuba, Sherwin do you know that guy?
Car performs well!
 
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anile8-zn

Guest
This is where comprehension comes in
it is possible to gain power out of a car which has had a decat.
The tuner can advance the timing and the car will make more power.
Your claim was making 24 kw on a STOCK m3.
Which part of that don't you understand ?
Running a car with mods that is untuned and then running it again to take advantage of said mod is hardly the same as tuning a STOCK car.
Also alot has been written on tuners who manipulate the fuel air temp maps to show gains on the dyno. Hell after reading up , I bet you ten grand I can make 20 hp on the dyno aswell.
Anyone could really.
So please once again you haven't put your claim to the test .
No one cares what gain u got On a modified m3
decat is a mod.
 

tashen

Member
omg you take pathetic to whole new level dont you???
My car gained 24kw and nobody really gives a fark whether u believe it or not. Zeemax and the employees saw it including the owner of Zeemax so thats really all that matters.
No dude. How about you fark off and die please. Keep your ten grand to buy yourself a nice casket or something. Please dont post here. Thank you very much.

anile8-zn said:
This is where comprehension comes in
it is possible to gain power out of a car which has had a decat.
The tuner can advance the timing and the car will make more power.
Your claim was making 24 kw on a STOCK m3.
Which part of that don't you understand ?
Running a car with mods that is untuned and then running it again to take advantage of said mod is hardly the same as tuning a STOCK car.
Also alot has been written on tuners who manipulate the fuel air temp maps to show gains on the dyno. Hell after reading up , I bet you ten grand I can make 20 hp on the dyno aswell.
Anyone could really.
So please once again you haven't put your claim to the test .
No one cares what gain u got On a modified m3
decat is a mod.
 
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anile8-zn

Guest
How much u made at last zermax dyno day?
Threats and hostile attitude won't enlighten the forum to what is going on.
Pleas post up your result also note your gain was on the fly
 

RowenS

///Member
The point is the gain.................. irrespective what mods was done, it is the same mods on the before and after runs...the mod to the car has not changed. BTW only a decatt...
 

AryM

Member
Shew, my car feels like a rocket after Exede.
Thanks and well done Sherwin.

The decat was done the same week I bought the cab as 1 of my cats were blocked and with the car coming out of plan next January, my dealers told me to do it anyway. No other hardware.

Modded or not: My car made 231HP before Exede, then 252 afterwards.
This is how it happened and if you think I talk sh1t, you know from my posts on the pother forums, I'm not into bullsh1t.

Met Sherwin @ Motronix @ 3:40pm, he read my stock file, went to his laptop, wrote my file in front of my eyes, within 5 minutes, we went & loaded the software on my car.
2 minutes later, software complete, we ran the car again on the rollers, time was about 3:55pm
No adaptation, PUMP fuel and the car made over 250Whp........

My Leon Cupra was a full FRC racing cab, you can ask Praga/ Preggie and they'll tell you.
Give credit where its due, Sherwin does BMW best.....

& BTW - Boned was on the phone with me last night after we finished my cab....
I told as it is, and he knows it....He was impressed
 
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anile8-zn

Guest
I am not arguing about the gain
the car ha a decat and was untuned , as soon as u tune to correct mixtures and so forth the car will gain power.
That is surely the gain u are feeling ary.
As to gaining 24 kw on a factory stock car , that claim as not been tested here.
 

Sherwin@xcede

BMWFanatics Advertiser
Official Advertiser
Anal8, I don't have the capacityy to argue with you. To date we haver done 22 E46 M3's. 8 of them had the catts in. Wer gained over 20hp with those as well.

We did a CSL on the same dyno. It is bone stock with catts. It gained 26hp. The car was run stock, & then tuned without leaving the dyno. I can get the graph if you want.

Anyway, continue with your crusade, whatever makes you happy. Doens't make a difference to me what you say. Cheers & good luck with the argument.
 

tashen

Member
my power was 20kw down coz my battery needed to be replaced. (over 4yrs old)
No Dude i'm not threatening you. I'm just making it clear how annoying you are. So it was actually more of a suggestion...
No dude go and use the search function to find my dyno graph i'm sure you can do that as you seem rather bright.

anile8-zn said:
How much u made at last zermax dyno day?
Threats and hostile attitude won't enlighten the forum to what is going on.
Pleas post up your result also note your gain was on the fly
 
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Mike1

Guest
Anile you missing the point.

Excede has made it known from the start that they base their results on the GAINS they get.

Therefore. Modded/stock. Coast/Central. This is all irrelevant.

The car made gains of X amount and that is fantastic. The gains are what Excede brag about and so they should as the GAINS they get on any car, modded or stock is always fantastic.

Sherwin has posted graphs and customers who are loyal and extremely happy with Excede have posted their feelings. At the end of the day. Excede has proved itself as a reputable tuning company and you need to deal with that.

Please take your negativity elsewhere. You do this on every forum. VW, BMW etc.

Move on. :thumbsup:
 
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anile8-zn

Guest
no mike , he claimed to do it on a bone stock m3
and he refferenced my post , so please u should consider understanding the inital claim .
u cant claim x and then use y to prove it.
this is an open forum i am free to voice my opinion , if u want a closed exede supportes section , by all means create one.
rather u move on from reading my posts if the negativity brings u down

@tashen , convenient that a dyno day your car doesnt make power and now all the excuses about battery this and that come out.
pathetic
 

tashen

Member
yes i'm a liar and so is xcede.
We bullshit customers so we can take their money from them. Daylight robbery.
I dyno'd my car after a tune on the same dyno and made 24kw but on the dyno day i couldnt find octane booster so i made 20kw less on the same dyno. Sorry about the battery excuse it was quite pathetic. Thanks for pointing that out.
We are in fact inferior to all the other tuners out there. Our mods we sell are also cheap and bad quality.
Our 1/4 mile times are all fraudulent as well we send a special gas into the air that puzzle the spectators and make them believe our times are that low when its acually alot worse. we also known to strip the car completely as in even remove the engine to make those ridiculously claimed times.
Anile69-Zn is completely 100% correct we are frauds so there you have it so please guys dont support us. You guys should thank Anal28-zn for pointing this out you before you made the mistake to support us!
I'm so embarrased and ashamed of myself i will no longer post in the thread. Thank you and good bye...:bawling:

anile8-zn said:
no mike , he claimed to do it on a bone stock m3
and he refferenced my post , so please u should consider understanding the inital claim .
u cant claim x and then use y to prove it.
this is an open forum i am free to voice my opinion , if u want a closed exede supportes section , by all means create one.
rather u move on from reading my posts if the negativity brings u down

@tashen , convenient that a dyno day your car doesnt make power and now all the excuses about battery this and that come out.
pathetic
 
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anile8-zn

Guest
so , need higher octane fuel to make your claimed numbers?
why didnt u say your car was mapped for high octane fuel from the begining , we were under the impression that you got your gains on pump fuel!!! thanks for clearing that up.
 

tashen

Member
anile8-zn said:
so , need higher octane fuel to make your claimed numbers?
why didnt u say your car was mapped for high octane fuel from the begining , we were under the impression that you got your gains on pump fuel!!! thanks for clearing that up.

Yes sir i only made 4kw. I added the octane booster to get another 20kw.
I say this with much respect to you and with my head between my legs...ouch...I'm sure with all your experience and knowledge you would know octane booster adds 20-30kw to any car.
So sorry. I hope you'll find it in your heart to forgive me for lying to you and everyone for so long. I'm ashamed really. :dunno:
Ary please come clean...we threw some octane booster in your car and rowans car and all the other E46 m3's we did. Please apologise to Anal-zn and restore your worth! Please guys we must stop lying now.



Dude dont lie now. Please tell Anal and everyone about that magic octane booster we use that doesnt need any adapting and gives you that extra power on the fly. Please dude i think the game is over now. We've been spotted by anal.
I repeat the ladies are dirty! We've been spotted! Game Over!

AryM said:
Shew, my car feels like a rocket after Exede.
Thanks and well done Sherwin.

The decat was done the same week I bought the cab as 1 of my cats were blocked and with the car coming out of plan next January, my dealers told me to do it anyway. No other hardware.

Modded or not: My car made 231HP before Exede, then 252 afterwards.
This is how it happened and if you think I talk sh1t, you know from my posts on the pother forums, I'm not into bullsh1t.

Met Sherwin @ Motronix @ 3:40pm, he read my stock file, went to his laptop, wrote my file in front of my eyes, within 5 minutes, we went & loaded the software on my car.
2 minutes later, software complete, we ran the car again on the rollers, time was about 3:55pm
No adaptation, PUMP fuel and the car made over 250Whp........

My Leon Cupra was a full FRC racing cab, you can ask Praga/ Preggie and they'll tell you.
Give credit where its due, Sherwin does BMW best.....

& BTW - Boned was on the phone with me last night after we finished my cab....
I told as it is, and he knows it....He was impressed
 
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