TBP88's last car

TBP88

Well-known member
So, after having been without a car for nearly a year now (maybe 8mo?) I've finally taken delivery of my new car, a 2023 Porsche 718GT4. A few members predicted this for me! I don't know if it's good or bad that my car tastes are *THAT* transparent, but anyway. Here we are.

Spec wise, relatively simple (well, still north of R100k worth, fun), Gentian blue, colour matched interior, reverse camera+sensors, extended leather, silver wheels, steel brakes, sportchrono (this shit is so dumb but apparently to retain it's value I have nearly no choice and it's relatively inexpensive) leather gearknob and steering wheel and bose sound.

Why a 718GT4? In 2020, around July after the worst of covid restrictions lifted Porsche Cape Town had a yellow demonstrator model 718GT4 that I came along to have a look at, sit in etc. I was smitten. The size was perfect, the car was manual, naturally aspirated and 2 door, 2 seat. All things that were (nearly) non negotiable in my next car. At the time though, the reality was, even with low rates, the car was outside of my affordability (I could probably have just about managed the finance but it'd have meant massively sacrificing other interests of mine - something I wasn't happy or comfortable with).

Roll around 2022, Covid had ended. I had 2 years more saving done and Z4M prices had steadied so I let my car go and placed the deposit for a 718GT4.

Prior to all this I considered a *LOT* of cars:

996 C4S and 996 Turbo
997.1 C2S, C4S and GT3
997.2 C2S, C4S and GTS
Yaris GR
Supra
M2Comp
A45/CLA45
TTRS
and of course just keeping the Z4M.

Of the above the only two I actually got to test drive was a 997.1C4S and an M2Comp (last gen). Audi, Merc and Toyota all said I couldn't test drive their cars - something I considered non-negotiable on spending upwards of R700k on a car. I'm doing decently financially but I simply can't afford to spend half a mil (or more, as it turns out) on a car I haven't driven and just trust reviewers and youtubers.

What turned me was having the chance to test a 2nd hand GT4 around mid-22. After that I did my sums and finally pulled the trigger.

The Porsche order process is painful and expensive. You spec a car, and essentially spend R200k to join the queue for an allocation. This money sits in Porsche's bank account and accrues no interest for you. If you are not given an allocation, you are refunded the R200k.

Around last November (so +-5mo) my allocation was confirmed for a build date mid February this year and I had around 4-5days to confirm and sign on. This is your 2nd last exit point at best. At this point you sign on for a price and if the car arrives for that price or less you are compelled to buy it, or forfeit your R200k.

As the car was on a boat, in early March, a price increase was confirmed. Again I had 3-4 days to work out if I was still happy (if I was unhappy with the new price I then had the allowance to walk away and recieve my R200k back - though I suspect this also essentially terminates any willingness Porsche SA will have to deal with you in future).

Finally this last week the car arrived in Cape Town and I collected this morning. I think the spec came out great, the final decider to pull the trigger was going to Porsche CT and seeing a convertible 992 in Gentian Blue. The colour pops something crazy and I love the silver rims against it.

The car will head off for some front + partial side PPF as well as a full paint correction, and then off on a running-in road trip towards the end of the month. I'll post a proper driving assessment at that moment.

I suppose most people will say "why" and "is this worth it" and the truth is that, objectively, no. Spending the thick end of R2m more than my Z4M was worth will *never* give that much more driving experience. Even now as the good Z4Ms start tipping into the R400k mark I think they're the best smiles+performance per R car you can get. But since I was a teenager I had dreamt of a Porsche GT car. The 996GT3RS was my mid-teens dream car, and as I've aged, learnt to drive and enjoyed some cars the Porsche brand has worked it's way into my mind in a way that perhaps only BMW has as well. I've put here that this is my last car, and I intend on that, failing some massive career upswing, some lotto wins or some other unlikely event that lands me 10s of millions of rands, this is my intended final car. The next one will be some boring towncar when my partners Jimny gives out. So, yeah. I had the opportunity to do so and did and to be honest, as much of a mission as it's been, as much as this will be a depreciating car over the next 5 or 10 or 20 years I own it. This is the *exact* spec I wanted, in the exact car I wanted - we all work hard and to be honest I'm fortunate enough that I've been able to save and this is one of *the* material desires I had dreamt of. To satisfy it is immensely gratifying, and at the end of the day - we all buy cars to make us smile, beyond a few hundred grand it's all just a question of what makes you smile - and this makes me smile plenty.

Sole downer is the dunlop delivery tyres - I knew it *MIGHT* come with these instead of Michelins (Porsche essentially picks whatever is cheapest and more available at the time of construction), it's fine. When replacement time comes I'll switch to a brand of tyres I prefer.

Pics below (note my difficulty pulling in! Fortunately reversing and going slowly using some scrap wood we had managed to make it up the drive with no scrapes, though I am certain that plastic lip will eventually get eaten!):
 

Attachments

  • front.png
    front.png
    1.4 MB · Views: 296
  • in garage.png
    in garage.png
    1.7 MB · Views: 288
  • interior.png
    interior.png
    2.8 MB · Views: 287
  • pulling in.png
    pulling in.png
    1.1 MB · Views: 292
  • side.png
    side.png
    2.8 MB · Views: 292

CK4LIFE

Active member
The Porsche order process is painful and expensive. You spec a car, and essentially spend R200k to join the queue for an allocation. This money sits in Porsche's bank account and accrues no interest for you. If you are not given an allocation, you are refunded the R200k.
This is very insightful... Congratulations, that's a beauty of a beast.. safe miles ahead
 

MR_Y

Well-known member
Excellent 👍 choice and perfect for Cape Town roads. In JHB, that front lip would have been disintegrated by now ;)

With the beautiful and pristine roads in the Cape, you will surely get the max satisfaction out of this car. Will be an awesome experience on Chapman's Peak.

Looking forward to your write ups and pictures.

Welcome to the Porsche family. With a car like that, you must join the Cape Chapter of the Porsche Club.

PPF and ceramic coating will be a must on this car. Also consider Porsche's very comprehensive tyre insurance (much better than BMW), since it is relatively affordable and will cover you 100%.
 

Eust

Well-known member
Nicely done! That's an upgrade of note!
It ain't a Porsche if it doesn't have "GT" in the badge 😎👌
 

TurboLlew

Honorary ///Member
Congratulations and many happy miles!

I'd take this car over many, many more expensive things. Love the colour too! Thank you for sharing on the actual order process as well. Buying a car like this must be a daunting exercise given R/Euro and other transient changes that may arise at any time in SA. It does definitely beat the BMW experience of "oh well we can't get allocations so take what we have - it's nearly the same." It sounds odd, but at least they will 'take your money' as opposed to the attitude that I'd gotten in the past. Seems this has changed with the incoming M2 owner describing his experiences though.

Audi, Merc and Toyota all said I couldn't test drive their cars

Ah so nothing new here :rolleyes:.

Toyota can jump - As much as I was very interested in the GR Yaris and Corolla, I didn't (and won't) waste my time going to see them. I know there are Supra owners that have had good experiences. My experience at launch (with cash in hand) was an absolute JOKE. Wouldn't let me drive it, made out like they brought the car for me to see and that somehow obligated me to buy it. Wanted to (I kid you not) show that I actually had the money for it... and despite all that care in making sure nobody 'unapproved' was going to drive it, had a video they were proudly sharing of them reving the pants off it cold, downstairs with zero km on it.

I could show up in a GT3 RS and Merc would tell me they don't have anything in my price range... The only time I've successfully driven AMG cars is on the Gerotek days with the supercar club - The higher end GTs are very nice but everything else is meh so you aren't missing anything much. A regular dealer will barely let you get in which is bizarre. I genuinely don't think they realise how many people they have pissed off (in Merc's case including my die-hard fangirl wife) with their overall experience. Most recently we test drove an X3M for her. Went to Porsche: Test drove Macan. Went to Alfa: No problem, here's a Stelvio - go drive it yourself. Show up at Mercedes (in an F90 M5 - at a dealer that knows we are clients- walk around the whole area - nobody cared. Went to ask for keys to a GLC - salesman disappeared, unlocked it, then had to rush back to his desk. I give up - maybe in my next life I will be the right profile to get good service at merc LOL

Audi... just doesn't care about anything. I had to educate the salesperson on the ONE car I was interested in in the whole place.

Anyway Porsche is definitely next level and CONGRATULATIONS again! This is the one to have. SO JEALOUS!
 

TBP88

Well-known member
Congratulations and many happy miles!

I'd take this car over many, many more expensive things. Love the colour too! Thank you for sharing on the actual order process as well. Buying a car like this must be a daunting exercise given R/Euro and other transient changes that may arise at any time in SA. It does definitely beat the BMW experience of "oh well we can't get allocations so take what we have - it's nearly the same." It sounds odd, but at least they will 'take your money' as opposed to the attitude that I'd gotten in the past. Seems this has changed with the incoming M2 owner describing his experiences though.



Ah so nothing new here :rolleyes:.

Toyota can jump - As much as I was very interested in the GR Yaris and Corolla, I didn't (and won't) waste my time going to see them. I know there are Supra owners that have had good experiences. My experience at launch (with cash in hand) was an absolute JOKE. Wouldn't let me drive it, made out like they brought the car for me to see and that somehow obligated me to buy it. Wanted to (I kid you not) show that I actually had the money for it... and despite all that care in making sure nobody 'unapproved' was going to drive it, had a video they were proudly sharing of them reving the pants off it cold, downstairs with zero km on it.

I could show up in a GT3 RS and Merc would tell me they don't have anything in my price range... The only time I've successfully driven AMG cars is on the Gerotek days with the supercar club - The higher end GTs are very nice but everything else is meh so you aren't missing anything much. A regular dealer will barely let you get in which is bizarre. I genuinely don't think they realise how many people they have pissed off (in Merc's case including my die-hard fangirl wife) with their overall experience. Most recently we test drove an X3M for her. Went to Porsche: Test drove Macan. Went to Alfa: No problem, here's a Stelvio - go drive it yourself. Show up at Mercedes (in an F90 M5 - at a dealer that knows we are clients- walk around the whole area - nobody cared. Went to ask for keys to a GLC - salesman disappeared, unlocked it, then had to rush back to his desk. I give up - maybe in my next life I will be the right profile to get good service at merc LOL

Audi... just doesn't care about anything. I had to educate the salesperson on the ONE car I was interested in in the whole place.

Anyway Porsche is definitely next level and CONGRATULATIONS again! This is the one to have. SO JEALOUS!
I've mentioned previously quite how poorly treated we were at Merc. Maybe I'm old fashioned but if you're facing clients, you treat them with respect, even if they cannot afford your product (1) because how are you going to get them excited about your brand and (2) isn't the point of working in a car dealer to see people passionate about the brand. I get that it's just a job - and everyone has off days, but wow, if we shared the experience clearly there's an issue.

I've been visiting dealers for literally years, and only at Merc have I been made to feel like I actually didn't belong there. Sure we pulled up in my partners Jimny and I was wearing jeans and sneakers, but so? Do I need to come in a 3 piece suit for good service? Unacceptable.

Anyway, after a look around and some reading it was clear the A45/CLA45 aren't for me personally - capable and amazingly equipped as they are.

The toyota thing for me was bizarre, I still love the look and think they seem like amazing vehicles, but I just can't come to the party without getting at least a 10minute seat moment.

For that BMW are the best. I simply put my name down, when they had a car for me to drive I was contacted and they had a pretty good driving route mapped out too. I'm no Lewis Hamilton but it was nice that they had some twisties in their route. If the M2comp was available in the final production year with better interior options and more colourways I'm 95% sure I'd have bought that and saved a huge chunk of money.

Nicely done! That's an upgrade of note!
It ain't a Porsche if it doesn't have "GT" in the badge 😎👌
Haha, I do love a basic 911, even today as I collected I was admiring some 997.2s - almost inch for inch the exact same size as a 718! While there I also saw the new(er) 718GTS 4.0, and to be honest, I can't see why you'd order one unless the stiffer and lower suspension was an absolute deal breaker. The GT4 looks far more exciting from almost all angles and it's not a huge jump in price.

Congrats. Porsche is next level. M cars used to be close to Porsche performance and excitement for ALOT less money. Now the money is almost similar and I will always rate Porsche over BMW. Proper proper sports car you got there. Colour looks amazing.
I love BMW as a brand, the current styling (and pricing!) has made me extremely sad, but I do have some hope for the new M2. I think it's ugly but capable and that all it needs is a new front and rear bumper to become this generations defining sportscar. But the prices are steep, the differentiation between an M3 and a 911 was always that an M3 was yours for 30-50% cheaper, that's not the case anymore.

In terms of the order process, it is long and painful but most importantly it's transparent. Upfront they said "there might be price changes in the interim, if you're not happy you can walk away and we refund". So, you give up 6-12mo of interest on your deposit for the chance you can get the car you want. I respect that openness. In terms of options, I hadn't locked in but the buckets were on my original spec sheet, but they were NLA on GT4s for my alloc slot. So it was either base seats or 18way sports seats. the 18ways are a lot heavier and have even more electronics (more stuff to break), so I opted for the base seats. The buckets certainly add to the experience but I'm not sure they're worth the substantial (talking nearly R150k) premium. If I had to spec again I think I'd land exactly where I am.

Anyway, I'll still be here on this forum as my primary form of car contact. The advise and active community here have been welcoming and helpful throughout my BMW owning years, and I do hope one day to have another BMW. I'll keep posting updates in this thread of my time, enjoyment and issues with the car :) Stay tuned!
 

Dr Evil

Active member
Congratulations on a brand of car that has been my childhood as well adulthood dream. I wish you many happy and safe km's.

Please share your experiences with it from time to time.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 

Razz

Well-known member
Congrats on an awesome ride. May she give you miles of smiles


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 

Allpaw

Member
Congratulations! What a beauty you've chosen. Thats an amazing car and I wish you'll have many joyful miles in it.

Thanks for sharing the Porsche purchase process, that was very interesting. It seems with Porsche one needs to have absolute commitment to the purchase and to be posssessed of a great deal of patience. It adds, in a way - probably unintentionally - to the exclusivity of the brand.

I was very suprised to hear that Audi, Merc and Toyota wouldnt let you test drive their cars. That is baffling - its a known critical and reasonable step in the buying journey for most people - especially when they are laying out a significant sum of money. Does anyone know why they take this stance?
 

r0ckf1re

Well-known member
Congrats, beauty of a car. The GT4 is an Awsome car and tons of fun to drive. Great buy.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 

cRed001

Active member
Congrats this is an epic car and it's a huge achievement to buy something like this brand new. Keen to read your reviews on what it's like to live with on a day to day basis. Most of the online reviews focus primarily on the performance aspect.
 
Top