Real Msport or just a badge

[CliftonH]

Hi Guys , I need some help please, I bought a 2005 E90 320D msport, but here is my dilema, I think I was fooled, I dont know if it is a real Msport, how can I be sure, here are the pro's, it has the leather seats with full adjustable, its lowered, it has BMW side rails when you open the door, it has a lip on the boot,

cons, it doesnt have the bumpers, both front and back, it doesnt have an msport gear nob,

is it an msport or not, I uploaded a pick as well,

 

[dvst8]

Not an MSport dude.
:nonono:

 

[CliftonH]

thats what I though, dam idiot lied to me, how come its lowered with the booth lid and also the door, is it just add ons, now I have another problem, I heard it is not nyc to drive with an msport sign if it is not an msport, should I take the sign off, or just change the bumpers

Not an MSport dude.
:nonono:

 

[dvst8]

thats what I though, dam idiot lied to me, how come its lowered with the booth lid and also the door, is it just add ons, now I have another problem, I heard it is not nyc to drive with an msport sign if it is not an msport, should I take the sign off, or just change the bumpers

Not an MSport dude.
:nonono:

If you like it, keep the badge. Its your car. Dont worry what other people say.

BTW - My 320d MSport does not M badge on the boot.

Do you have the Sport seats ?

 

[tcal69]

don't worry about it bud, those ///M badge adds extra kw's for sure:rollsmile:

 

[Sendhur]

sorry to hear of you misfortune, please post pictures of the seats and steering wheel

Hope you get sorted :thumbs:

 

[Pho3niX90]

thats what I though, dam idiot lied to me, how come its lowered with the booth lid and also the door, is it just add ons, now I have another problem, I heard it is not nyc to drive with an msport sign if it is not an msport, should I take the sign off, or just change the bumpers

Not an MSport dude.
:nonono:

Those are all cheaper to do than replace the front and rear bumpers, go to http://www.rubmw.ru/vincode/eng/

and enter your vin, it will also tell you if it is one or not, this is just for your piece of mind.

If you want to keep the badge on, then do so, it's your car and you need to be happy with it. Otherwise you can just spend the cash and convert it, I don't think the MSport and Normal has any dif between engine components, just the suspension, sterring wheel, gearknob ect. But I could be wrong.

 

[CliftonH]

thats what I though, dam idiot lied to me, how come its lowered with the booth lid and also the door, is it just add ons, now I have another problem, I heard it is not nyc to drive with an msport sign if it is not an msport, should I take the sign off, or just change the bumpers

Not an MSport dude.
:nonono:

If you like it, keep the badge. Its your car. Dont worry what other people say.

BTW - My 320d MSport does not M badge on the boot.

Do you have the Sport seats ?

its got the sport seats, the door has BMW plates, just I financed it so papers is with the bank, so I cant see what it is registered as, Bu tI feel so dam fooled, I intend the change the front bumper, but I dont really like the msport back bumper, I will make it look 90% msport, lol

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thats what I though, dam idiot lied to me, how come its lowered with the booth lid and also the door, is it just add ons, now I have another problem, I heard it is not nyc to drive with an msport sign if it is not an msport, should I take the sign off, or just change the bumpers

Not an MSport dude.
:nonono:

Those are all cheaper to do than replace the front and rear bumpers, go to http://www.rubmw.ru/vincode/eng/

and enter your vin, it will also tell you if it is one or not, this is just for your piece of mind.

If you want to keep the badge on, then do so, it's your car and you need to be happy with it. Otherwise you can just spend the cash and convert it, I don't think the MSport and Normal has any dif between engine components, just the suspension, sterring wheel, gearknob ect. But I could be wrong.

trying the VIN now, will let you know

 

[tcal69]

thats what I though, dam idiot lied to me, how come its lowered with the booth lid and also the door, is it just add ons, now I have another problem, I heard it is not nyc to drive with an msport sign if it is not an msport, should I take the sign off, or just change the bumpers

Not an MSport dude.
:nonono:

If you like it, keep the badge. Its your car. Dont worry what other people say.

BTW - My 320d MSport does not M badge on the boot.

Do you have the Sport seats ?

its got the sport seats, the door has BMW plates, just I financed it so papers is with the bank, so I cant see what it is registered as, Bu tI feel so dam fooled, I intend the change the front bumper, but I dont really like the msport back bumper, I will make it look 90% msport, lol

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thats what I though, dam idiot lied to me, how come its lowered with the booth lid and also the door, is it just add ons, now I have another problem, I heard it is not nyc to drive with an msport sign if it is not an msport, should I take the sign off, or just change the bumpers

Not an MSport dude.
:nonono:

Those are all cheaper to do than replace the front and rear bumpers, go to http://www.rubmw.ru/vincode/eng/

and enter your vin, it will also tell you if it is one or not, this is just for your piece of mind.

If you want to keep the badge on, then do so, it's your car and you need to be happy with it. Otherwise you can just spend the cash and convert it, I don't think the MSport and Normal has any dif between engine components, just the suspension, sterring wheel, gearknob ect. But I could be wrong.

trying the VIN now, will let you know

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Is alright man, I think you can tick the sport seats as optional extra... but check out another thread by steven liao where he turn is 323i? to a sports pack:thumbs:

 

[CliftonH]

thats what I though, dam idiot lied to me, how come its lowered with the booth lid and also the door, is it just add ons, now I have another problem, I heard it is not nyc to drive with an msport sign if it is not an msport, should I take the sign off, or just change the bumpers

Not an MSport dude.
:nonono:

If you like it, keep the badge. Its your car. Dont worry what other people say.

BTW - My 320d MSport does not M badge on the boot.

Do you have the Sport seats ?

its got the sport seats, the door has BMW plates, just I financed it so papers is with the bank, so I cant see what it is registered as, Bu tI feel so dam fooled, I intend the change the front bumper, but I dont really like the msport back bumper, I will make it look 90% msport, lol

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thats what I though, dam idiot lied to me, how come its lowered with the booth lid and also the door, is it just add ons, now I have another problem, I heard it is not nyc to drive with an msport sign if it is not an msport, should I take the sign off, or just change the bumpers

Not an MSport dude.
:nonono:

Those are all cheaper to do than replace the front and rear bumpers, go to http://www.rubmw.ru/vincode/eng/

and enter your vin, it will also tell you if it is one or not, this is just for your piece of mind.

If you want to keep the badge on, then do so, it's your car and you need to be happy with it. Otherwise you can just spend the cash and convert it, I don't think the MSport and Normal has any dif between engine components, just the suspension, sterring wheel, gearknob ect. But I could be wrong.

trying the VIN now, will let you know

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hi it is saying Unfortunately, the search returned no results.

 

[Pho3niX90]

I don't think the papers state if its a msport or not :? Will check mine tonight

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Just type the last 7 digits of your vin

 

[CliftonH]

thats what I though, dam idiot lied to me, how come its lowered with the booth lid and also the door, is it just add ons, now I have another problem, I heard it is not nyc to drive with an msport sign if it is not an msport, should I take the sign off, or just change the bumpers

Not an MSport dude.
:nonono:

If you like it, keep the badge. Its your car. Dont worry what other people say.

BTW - My 320d MSport does not M badge on the boot.

Do you have the Sport seats ?

its got the sport seats, the door has BMW plates, just I financed it so papers is with the bank, so I cant see what it is registered as, Bu tI feel so dam fooled, I intend the change the front bumper, but I dont really like the msport back bumper, I will make it look 90% msport, lol

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thats what I though, dam idiot lied to me, how come its lowered with the booth lid and also the door, is it just add ons, now I have another problem, I heard it is not nyc to drive with an msport sign if it is not an msport, should I take the sign off, or just change the bumpers

Not an MSport dude.
:nonono:

Those are all cheaper to do than replace the front and rear bumpers, go to http://www.rubmw.ru/vincode/eng/

and enter your vin, it will also tell you if it is one or not, this is just for your piece of mind.

If you want to keep the badge on, then do so, it's your car and you need to be happy with it. Otherwise you can just spend the cash and convert it, I don't think the MSport and Normal has any dif between engine components, just the suspension, sterring wheel, gearknob ect. But I could be wrong.

trying the VIN now, will let you know

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hi it is saying Unfortunately, the search returned no results. is there another website

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[calypso]

Alot of guys believe they have MSport cars because for example, the service manual will say 320 (M), guys wanna believe that the M is for Motorsport, when actually it's just for manual transmission.

 

[dvst8]

I don't think the MSport and Normal has any dif between engine components, just the suspension, sterring wheel, gearknob ect. But I could be wrong.

Correct, The engine spec is exactly the same.

:thumbs:

 

[CliftonH]

Alot of guys believe they have MSport cars because for example, the service manual will say 320 (M), guys wanna believe that the M is for Motorsport, when actually it's just for manual transmission.

you made me laugh, no its got the proper sign, also its lowered a lot,

 

[Crash_Nemesis]

Only ///M cars have an ///M badge on the back.

Msport does not put ///M badges on the back of their cars. They only have ///M badges on the gear knobs, door sills and mags.

 

[CliftonH]

sorry to hear of you misfortune, please post pictures of the seats and steering wheel

Hope you get sorted :thumbs:

I will go take lots of pics and post it in about 30mins, must see and let me know, I am a passionate BMW Lover, but I am so dissapointed,

 

[Pho3niX90]

Only ///M cars have an ///M badge on the back.

Msport does not put ///M badges on the back of their cars. They only have ///M badges on the gear knobs, door sills and mags.

Mine doesn't have on the door sills, but individual, but it has also comments from factory that it should say individual, so not sure if that is the reason.

Except for that everything else is M, gearknob, steeringwheel ect.


I hope you come right buddy :thumbs:

 

[CliftonH]

I don't think the papers state if its a msport or not :? Will check mine tonight

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Just type the last 7 digits of your vin

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okay it worked, but doesnt say msport, but says everything that I mentioned about the sport suspension and everything

see below,
Type code VC36
Type 320D OL (EUR)
E series E90 ()
Series 3
Type LIM
Steering RL
Doors 4
Engine M47/T2
Displacement 2.00
Power 120
Drive HECK
Transmission MECH
Colour ARKTIS METALLIC (A34)
Upholstery LEDER DAKOTA/SCHWARZ (LCSW)
Prod.date 2005-08-02


Sports suspension settings
Multifunction f steering wheel
Sports leather steering wheel
BMW LA wheel ellipsoid spoke 162
Alarm system
Exterior parts in vehicle colour
Windscreen, green-tinted upper strip
Trailer coupling
Glass roof, electrical
Floor mats velours
Warning triangle and first aid kit
Smoker package
Sports seat
Interior trim strips, brushed aluminium
Description (EPC)
Fog lights
Automatic air conditioning
Cruise control
Kilometre speedo
Preparation f tel.installation universal
Radio BMW Professional
HiFi system Professional DSP
Provisions for BMW 6 CD changer
Hot-climate version
NATIONAL VERSION SOUTH AFRICA
Data record without EOBD
Dealer List Overseas
Omission of non-combined operation
On-board literature, English
Underride protection, national variants
Description (EPC)
Car ident. number visible from outside
Maintenance interval encoding

 

[dvst8]

Interesting.