R14 000 outstanding on expired licence

[Antwerp]

Hi everyone, can someone please advise me on what to do in a situation where my dad registered his BMW on my name 12 years ago and had an accident in 2012 where the car been a complete write-off. He then sold it as is, I've got no idea to who and never removed the car from name. Now that I want to buy my own car I found out I still have a BMW on my name and have to pay 14k in outstanding license fees. How do I get this to be written off, Please help?

 

[Gordvisr]

You have to pay that first unfortunately then you can remove it from your name

 

[TurboLlew]

There are missing elements in this story.

The car was probably not written off as in "paid out" by the insurance and scrapped. He either had no insurance or opted not to be paid out by insurance for whatever reason. Either way it was likely never scrapped. They would likely not have bothered with documentation assuming it was already deregistered.

The easiest way to find this out is just to speak to your dad? Either way you need to pay those fees. You may need to go and get an affidavit done explaining the details to then have it scrapped.

 

[Kyle]

Yup, basically the first step is paying whatever outstanding fees are applicable... Unfortunately there's no way around this.

If you have no idea who has possession of the car currently then the next step would be to get a reprint of the NATIS doc and de-register the car so you don't have issues going forward.

 

[Mytfine]

Yup you gotta pay. Alot of people dont realise it is the seller of the vehicle who is responsible to transfer the ownership of the vehicle. Doesn't help that a reprint of natis docs can take up to six weeks these days.

 

[Antwerp]

Yup you gotta pay. Alot of people dont realise it is the seller of the vehicle who is responsible to transfer the ownership of the vehicle. Doesn't help that a reprint of natis docs can take up to six weeks these days.

Hi, thanks but the thing is this vehicle was put on my name without my consent. This was my dad's doing. I never made use of this car, nor did I smash it and sell it. How can I be held responsible ? Surely there must ba a way around clearing my name

 

[Mytfine]

Hi, thanks but the thing is this vehicle was put on my name without my consent. This was my dad's doing. I never made use of this car, nor did I smash it and sell it. How can I be held responsible ? Surely there must ba a way around clearing my name

Without opening a criminal/fraud case against your Dad you have no legal standing to dispute the fees.

 

[Antwerp]

Without opening a criminal/fraud case against your Dad you have no legal standing to dispute the fees.

Well then that's what I got to do...

 

[Mytfine]

Well then that's what I got to do...

Its quiet a serious offence , you might want to sit down and talk to your dad 1st no matter what issues you have with him, i am sure you dont want him to see any jail time.

 

[Morribiscuit]

heeeeeectic

 

[individj]

bought a new car and when it was time to collect we couldn't take it ... had to pay an outstanding license fee before we could take the new car ... ex commissioner of traffic friend told me to pay the fee which included a penalty and then try and recoup an amount after (R8k)... he agreed that I shouldn't pay the penalty ... anyways I wrote the money off ... I knew what the chances were of getting it back or sorting the issue. A friend sold a car and also has the same issue now with about R12k owed...he is going to collect the car after paying the R12k

 

[Nukleuz]

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[modocrat]

Sorry to hear about your predicament. Hopefully it can be sorted out without calling Mr. Plod.

 

[PsyCLown]

So perhaps this is a little off topic however it seems a few people have been burnt when selling cars and the previous owner does not process the change of ownership.

What would be the correct or best way to go about removing the vehicle from your name once it has been sold?

 

[Coisman]

Do you have any proof in the form of paperwork (even a foetstoots letter) stating when and to whom it was sold??

 

[modocrat]

So perhaps this is a little off topic however it seems a few people have been burnt when selling cars and the previous owner does not process the change of ownership.

What would be the correct or best way to go about removing the vehicle from your name once it has been sold?

Complete the NCO form with your (sellers) and buyers details and drop off at your local licensing office.

 

[Nick]

 

[PsyCLown]

Complete the NCO form with your (sellers) and buyers details and drop off at your local licensing office.

Does one not need to make payment when doing the change of ownership and submit a road worthy certificate?
Or is the payment & road worthy only necessary to get the new disc & vehicle license document?

I feel as if there is often that element of distrust here in SA, handing over money and not getting the vehicle license at the same time would not leave me feeling comfortable.
Even if the previous owner (seller) says it is for them to do the change of ownership. On the flip side, as a seller handing over the forms and documents after getting money is fine but then there is the risk of the buyer not doing the change of ownership and you being left with a mess to clean up.

 

[modocrat]

Does one not need to make payment when doing the change of ownership and submit a road worthy certificate?
Or is the payment & road worthy only necessary to get the new disc & vehicle license document?

I feel as if there is often that element of distrust here in SA, handing over money and not getting the vehicle license at the same time would not leave me feeling comfortable.
Even if the previous owner (seller) says it is for them to do the change of ownership. On the flip side, as a seller handing over the forms and documents after getting money is fine but then there is the risk of the buyer not doing the change of ownership and you being left with a mess to clean up.

Handing-in the NCO form does not transfer the vehicle onto the new owner's name, It is merely to absolve the seller from any issues that may arise before the purchaser can transfer the vehicle onto their name.
The purchaser would then need to take the vehicle for COR. Once COR is done, the purchaser needs to take the original natis, ID and POA together with the RLV form to the transfer the vehicle onto their name.

 

[PsyCLown]

Handing-in the NCO form does not transfer the vehicle onto the new owner's name, It is merely to absolve the seller from any issues that may arise before the purchaser can transfer the vehicle onto their name.
The purchaser would then need to take the vehicle for COR. Once COR is done, the purchaser needs to take the original natis, ID and POA together with the RLV form to the transfer the vehicle onto their name.

This makes a lot more sense to me and from what I recall when I sold my first bike many many years ago is the process I followed.
Although I was starting to think I had maybe submitted the form to deregister my bike and maybe I had screwed over the buyer by mistake without knowing it.

So provided the NCO form is submitted, it is as good as off your name. Even if the buyer ends up never putting it under your name, no worries about fines coming back to you?