New Grille design language

Peter@AEW

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This is how far back they went for the new grille design language.
It was not good enough back then and it still remains the case
 

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MKE PAIZES

New member
Fully agree, they need a new head designer as all models are looking the same.
Even the front headlights are looking like golfs.
Pitty bmw going through a bland time.
Best looking models today are the m2 and M8.

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GoCart

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The new design language is such that I am glad there are other manufacturers to choose from.
 

FiRi@Rennzport

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Peter@AEW said:
This is how far back they went for the new grille design language.
It was not good enough back then and it still remains the case
Where is the Vomit emoji?

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WianF30

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FiRi@Rennzport said:
Peter@AEW said:
This is how far back they went for the new grille design language.
It was not good enough back then and it still remains the case
Where is the Vomit emoji?

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Here you go Firi

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TBP88

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legitimate question, when is the last time a new BMW was considerably better looking than it's predecessor? Release of E46? Maybe the Z4 over the Z3? You're talking 20yrs now of generally cars looking either the same level, or slightly worse, or *MUCH* worse... BMW have lost the plot.

That said, I would *love* an individual spec M2comp to be offered.
 

GravityLee

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TBP88 said:
legitimate question, when is the last time a new BMW was considerably better looking than it's predecessor? Release of E46? Maybe the Z4 over the Z3? You're talking 20yrs now of generally cars looking either the same level, or slightly worse, or *MUCH* worse... BMW have lost the plot.

That said, I would *love* an individual spec M2comp to be offered.


F10 was a huge visual upgrade to the E60. G20 much better than the F30 mediocrity. New 7 (not sure of the code) much better than the F01.

All of this is very subjective though.
 

FILV

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I think the evolution from an E90 LCI Msport to a F30 M sport was minimal. Even interior wise,not worth selling an E90 for n F30.

But now a G20 M sport is just something else. A huge leap in evolution, in both interior and exterior.
Every time i see one, i think wow, that is stunning!

In terms of exclusively grill design.. some models they got rite, some not.
the new 4 Series grill? i don't know

It succeeds in being different, and adding wow factor to the car. whether it looks good or not, im not sure.
im interested to see what i think of the design in 5 years time, when other manufacturers and car design in general evolves and gets more 'futuristic'
 

zama

Active member
I never really liked the previous M5 design, however, the F90 M5 competition is  :inlove:
 

UpNcOmiNg!

Events Organiser
I honestly cannot deal with the new "design language". Perhaps it is supposed to be Braille because it isn't appealing to the eye.

I can't deal with the interior because of the stupid guages.
Exterior just has way too much going on and not much of it says BMW.
4 Series grill. FFS. Just die.
5 series and the 3 series are same same but different.

Honestly, Mercedes CLA and A class have them taped quite badly in terms of looks, interior and exterior.
 

WianF30

Member
What do you guys think of this? Possible wide body kit solution for the M4...
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TurboLlew

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Your job should not be to buy a 1.5M car and then spend another 100 or 200K fixing it.

The current 5 remains 'good' if still a bit anonymous because it is a hybrid of the old F-series and the new G-series (certainly far better on the interiors). To some degree the F10 had design cues from the old E-series (certainly if you look at the tail lights, less angular front etc) coupled with F-series improvements and game changing on the power front. I am very biased here of course, but I feel like the F10 has aged well and will not date badly. Even next to the F90 it is not one of those situations where you immediately feel like you need to switch.

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I find it VERY hard to justify spending R2M for an F90 (although the M8 pricing makes this look like a bit of a bargain) BUT at the prices they are now coming down to (R1.2-1.4M range) they are amazing value. I know there are owners who will agree or disagree on this, but the F90 feels so different to the F10 that you could justify having both for the right price (assuming you already have a paid-off F10). The somewhat muscle car character is lost in the precision/clinical execution of the F90.

The 1 is an absolute disgrace - in whatever form you choose it - IMHO.

The 3 is very good if you spend a LOT of money kitting it out (all the good looking ones are 750K+ with many cosmetic boxes ticked.). We have a W205 facelift Merc at home and as much as it made the F30 look prehistoric, the G20 puts it to shame! Totally outclassed on space, tech, finishes, infotainment, quality etc. Pricing on the upper models though is astronomical and totally unjustified... despite the leaps in interior and infotainment. Why would you buy an M340i (xdrive and all) if you could buy an AWD M5 very lightly used (20000km odd) for R1.3M? There was a much bigger differentiation between the 3 and 5 in the F-series generation both in terms of pricing and size/styling.

BMW on the 6 vs 8 - they are really trying to see how far they can push marketing (as they have destroyed M to the degree that the 'most powerful letter in the world' now means nothing if not paired with "Competition" or "CS" or "GTS" or "DTM" etc). Wait until CSL is resurrected & destroyed too (this one is coming). The 8 is just the replacement of the 6. What is different vs. the previous 6 series in terms of concept? It is an M5 powertrain, widened and with 2 doors. Ditto Gran Coupe... just this time because they call it the 8 and pretend it is a totally different concept, they feel like they can charge R1.1M more instead of R200-300K more that it cost last generation.

There really are only 4 BMWs I would like to buy and none of them have that god-awful grill: M5C (This I will buy at some point), M8C (Maybe if it dips below R1.5M in the next couple of years), X5M (unlikely I would buy it, but I like it) and M2C (doesn't make sense if you have another M F-series already).
 
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