Need advice regarding huge speeding fines.

MikeR

Well-known member
:skit: damm fella, I would be in the traffic dep checking that out immediately, you dont want to be stopped in a road block as they wont be understanding.
and if you are doing those speeds....get some lighter shoes.
 

Gunner-Win

Member
Kurt Adv said:
Where's Coisman? He can give the best advice....

His reply was on page 1.

:crazylaugh:

Coisman said:
Call up that local Metro Police, and have them check your fines, as Payfine don't have everything listed.

If its AARTO notices then go onto the AARTO website and go read up what exactly you need to do in order to get it sorted.

Like Cape_Tonian said, if there were warrants, then you would have been arrested on the spot, but the mere fact that your speeds were so high, the notices to infor you of the warrants are either on their way, or already there, but delayed due to the Postal strike.

NEVER just sit back and asume it will be ok... this will only make it worse like Dyllan said, best is to maybe get Legal aid on standby, as the offence history, of you having multiple offences will for sure make it worse when pleading your case.

Good luck :thumb:
 

Psypher13

Active member
Hey buddy
Dont stress to much about the fines

remember - they cannot stop you and force you to pay anything on the spot
If they do - you are entitled to ask the for the permit to setup where they have stopped you

regardless - they are not allowed to do so.

As far as warrants and fines go - if they have been issued they need to be served to you in person by an official. until then nothing can happen to you period.

check my PM i sent you
 

Coisman

Administrator
Staff member
Psypher13 said:
Hey buddy
Dont stress to much about the fines

remember - they cannot stop you and force you to pay anything on the spot
If they do - you are entitled to ask the for the permit to setup where they have stopped you

regardless - they are not allowed to do so.

As far as warrants and fines go - if they have been issued they need to be served to you in person by an official. until then nothing can happen to you period.

check my PM i sent you

Thats why they arrest you on the spot, and take you to the office, and print out your warrant, or lately they have a remote station on the road, where they can print it on the spot, serve it on you right there... So best is to make contact with the Traffic Department/Metro Police and get it sorted.
 

Psypher13

Active member
Coisman said:
Psypher13 said:
Hey buddy
Dont stress to much about the fines

remember - they cannot stop you and force you to pay anything on the spot
If they do - you are entitled to ask the for the permit to setup where they have stopped you

regardless - they are not allowed to do so.

As far as warrants and fines go - if they have been issued they need to be served to you in person by an official. until then nothing can happen to you period.

check my PM i sent you

Thats why they arrest you on the spot, and take you to the office, and print out your warrant, or lately they have a remote station on the road, where they can print it on the spot, serve it on you right there... So best is to make contact with the Traffic Department/Metro Police and get it sorted.

Oh Sorry Coisman
I will remember that when i am Drafting Legislation at work for DOT
What did i know in saying that

:hammerhead:
 

iceburn

Member
Pho3niX90 said:
So I was pulled over during the week and was advised that a have a lot of fines along with court cases, I went on payfine earlier and saw the 3 court cases with amounts of 0, and pics.

330 was 154 in a 100km zone in Oct
X5 was 184 in a 100km zone in June
M6 unkown in Nov

All on M1 NORTH BTW MARLBORO DR & WOODMEAD DR

What do you guys suggest I do? Should I see a lawyer asap or wait until I get served?
just a quick FYI. i work parralel to the M1 between marlboro and woodmead.
the trap every single day between those offramps. its the little white box. usually they place it close to the woodmead offramp board. if you look to the left of that camera going north, you will see they sit in a white ford figo.
 

akash

Well-known member
There is always a trap there on the M1. Quite a few in both direction actually.

They are so small, that before you see it its to late.
 

Xack

Active member
Quick Fact: AARTO AKA Administrative Adjudication Of Road Traffic Offences; decriminalise road traffic offences Gentlemen :cartel:

AARTO specifically decriminalises traffic violations and no one can be guilty of a criminal offence for non-payment.
 

Coisman

Administrator
Staff member
Xack said:
Quick Fact: AARTO AKA Administrative Adjudication Of Road Traffic Offences; decriminalise road traffic offences Gentlemen :cartel:

AARTO specifically decriminalises traffic violations and no one can be guilty of a criminal offence for non-payment.

for non payment yes...but for a warrant of arrest for reckless driving ,which is what they charge you for when going more than 30 kms over the speed limit on the highway still means you get arrested
 

Xack

Active member
Its remains a traffic offence, do yourself a favour and read the AARTO ACT; It dont matter what "they are use to doing", the laws have changed...speeding falls within the definition of a traffic offence;

Speeding does not necessarily amount to reckless driving, but might be if it is related to other factors. For example, a motorist travelling at 130km/h along a straight freeway would not normally be guilty of reckless driving (liable maybe to prosecution in terms of speeding regulations, which now is decriminalised according to AARTO). However, a motorist who drove at that speed in a narrow, busy street used by many pedestrians in town, would be guilty of reckless driving.
 

ChefDJ

///Member
Psypher13 said:
Coisman said:
Psypher13 said:
Hey buddy
Dont stress to much about the fines

remember - they cannot stop you and force you to pay anything on the spot
If they do - you are entitled to ask the for the permit to setup where they have stopped you

regardless - they are not allowed to do so.

As far as warrants and fines go - if they have been issued they need to be served to you in person by an official. until then nothing can happen to you period.

check my PM i sent you

Thats why they arrest you on the spot, and take you to the office, and print out your warrant, or lately they have a remote station on the road, where they can print it on the spot, serve it on you right there... So best is to make contact with the Traffic Department/Metro Police and get it sorted.

Oh Sorry Coisman
I will remember that when i am Drafting Legislation at work for DOT
What did i know in saying that

:hammerhead:

Coisman is a metro cop and knows traffic law more than anyone on here.

Nobody likes sarcasm.
 

Kurt Adv

Member
Gunner-Win said:
Kurt Adv said:
Where's Coisman? He can give the best advice....

His reply was on page 1.

:crazylaugh:

Coisman said:
Call up that local Metro Police, and have them check your fines, as Payfine don't have everything listed.

If its AARTO notices then go onto the AARTO website and go read up what exactly you need to do in order to get it sorted.

Like Cape_Tonian said, if there were warrants, then you would have been arrested on the spot, but the mere fact that your speeds were so high, the notices to infor you of the warrants are either on their way, or already there, but delayed due to the Postal strike.

NEVER just sit back and asume it will be ok... this will only make it worse like Dyllan said, best is to maybe get Legal aid on standby, as the offence history, of you having multiple offences will for sure make it worse when pleading your case.

Good luck :thumb:


I stand corrected....never took note of who responded.
 

Chavoos

Active member
I had about 20 outstanding fines and tried to get them voided because they weren't submitted "legally" by registered mail. That didn't work out so well. So after being sent from pillar to post at loveday for a whole day , I went to fox street and spoke to a prosecutor . The guy scraped half of the fines , the most expensive ones , then he scraped half of the half that I had to pay because there was no credit card facility. I ended up paying a fraction of the total bill.
Now my fines are building up again:(


So my suggestion is to go to courts in Fox street, put on a sad face and ask for leniency.
It works .


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M3turbo

Member
But who was the driver at the time of offence? Surely the law cannot assue anything? Is the owner the driver, was the current driver the driver at that time? Can a warrant of aresst be issued on an assumption?

Personally I have over a 100k of fines that have been written off over the years.
I don't mess with NAGs. Had 2. One was written of by prosecutor and I settled one for 2k. My Vehicles are registered in Guateng. Non-Guateng fines get zero consideration from me.

If things get ugly, I am capable of paying my way out.
So don't pay ONLY if you are capable of playing the game.
 

Pho3niX90

///Member
Thanks guys. I have no problem paying for it to "dissappear". I was the driver at all occasions. After talking to my lawyers it's clear that I should not wadte my time on this until I get a summons to appear in court, my address is correct in the system. Once that happens I will take it from there.
 
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