My experience at Joburg City Auto

EdIMean

New member
Hi all,

I'd like to share my recent experience at Joburg City Auto.

My E90 323i A/T failed to start on 29th September. I had the car towed to Joburg City Auto for repairs. They ran the diagnostic test and came back a week later with the following:
* Starter motor failed, needs replacement

I agreed to have it replaced, and they went ahead. Three days later, got a call:
* The engine is misfiring badly, all ignition coils need replacement

I gave them the go-ahead. A week later, I collected the vehicle. The idling is very bad and it appears to be misfiring still. There's a lot of vibration on the steering wheel, the rev counter is "dancing" uncontrollably and the exhaust pipe clanks a lot. The exhaust fumes smell very badly and everything is very wrong!
A km away from their premises, the car stalls (very uncommon for an automatic transmission).

I called Wayne (service advisor) and informed him about the issue. I then decided to drive the car for a week and check if anything changed. The problem persists. The stalling is gone, but the vibrations and erratic idling still continue. The car is smoking, the fumes are unpleasantly strong and bad!

I finally take the car back to them, and they run another diagnostic test. Wayne calls me, informing me that the following items need replacing:
* VVT e-motor
* 2 Lambda regulators
* 2 Oxygen sensors
* Vent Hose
* Coolant Hose
* Profile Gasket
* Oil Filter
* Oil needs replacement
The cost R51 455.96

I asked Wayne not to do the work because of the ridiculous quotation. Thankfully, I couldn't afford to pay for this so the decision was easy to make.

I took the car to Tune Tech in Bez Valley for a second opinion. Their diagnosis:
* Incorrect wiring on the oxygen sensors

They fixed the wiring, and the cost? R2 450. The result? Everything is back to normal. No more vibrations and clanking. The smell coming from the exhaust has returned to normal and the idling is very smooth.

I now wonder if the starter motor really needed replacing in the first place. Imagine what would have happened if I had the money, and I'd asked them to do the R51k work? They would have replaced everything, messed up the wiring and probably asked me to replace the engine!

Incompetence at its finest!!
 

lebofa

Active member
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out of interest, did they give you the old parts back? Good thing to always get a second opinion, glad you are sorted
 

MR_Y

Well-known member
Not just BMW. Audi also have these types at most dealerships.

I have owned a few different brands over the years and experienced this type of nonsense with almost every brand.

The only brand/dealership that knew their arse from their elbow was Mazda Midrand. They actually tested stuff the old fashioned way first.
 

husaindindar

///Member
The cost R51 455.96


What the actual f**k.

I had bmw almost replace both vanos units (E90 325i). 20K worth of work.

Got me a cheap obd scanner and googled the codes.
Turns out it was a bad vanos solenoid. Replaced and fixed!


Dealer mechanics are not close to being mechanics...
 

VinceM

Well-known member
Incompetence is really costing us
So sorry you had to go through this (replace parts unnecessarily)
 

EdIMean

New member
out of interest, did they give you the old parts back? Good thing to always get a second opinion, glad you are sorted
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You know that feeling you have when you think someone’s got your back? I didn’t ask for the old parts. It did say on the invoice though that the old starter was “bought” from me for R1 500. This was subtracted from the total bill. I can’t find this original invoice.


husaindindar said:
The cost R51 455.96


What the actual f**k.

I had bmw almost replace both vanos units (E90 325i). 20K worth of work.

Got me a cheap obd scanner and googled the codes.
Turns out it was a bad vanos solenoid. Replaced and fixed!


Dealer mechanics are not close to being mechanics...

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sash

///Member
yush1 said:
I cant understand how BMW can misdiagnose like this. Chancers. :dunnoanymore:

Like many have said, the BMW techies are replacers not mechanics, they do diagnostic, get error code, replace everything that is related to code, hope the code disappears....if not rinse and repeat, charge customer
 

MikeR

Well-known member
:dunnoanymore: so you wonder how much the dealers scam BMW Motorplan for work done under motorplan, we dont question it then.

its seems to be a disease that has corrupted almost everyone - a rot that is slowing infiltrating the world and this is going to implode one day, I hope Im not around to see it. :thumbdo:

Glad you got sorted out though.
 

EdIMean

New member
husaindindar said:
Can OP elaborate the highlighted feedback from Tune Tech.

"keep tank above 1/4.... pump overheats"


What is the issue?

I have a bad habit of driving until the fuel range indicator shows 50km remaining, before refuelling

The feedback was that I must avoid driving with the reserve warning light on for an extended period. Apparently the fuel pump has to work extra hard to pump the little fuel that remains, causing it to overheat.
 

Thami4u

Active member
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Sorry about that however, this is actually not uncommon. I've heard many similar stories from other brands especially VW (which is why i would never own one).
Getting a second opinion is always the best whether you are still on Mplan or not.
Just this past wkend, a guy also shared his not so pleasant experience with Joburg City Auto but it was with the sales department, he actually wanted to buy a new car from them.
I have taken the X3 for service there in the last 2/3 occasions, it went ok I think, maybe it is bcos it is still on Mplan.
 

SMN325

Member
Report them to BMW SA.

I have reported dealerships in the past and it has worked out for the better.
 

yush1

Active member
They just opened the dealership not long back and already the service is so bad. I cant imagine how it will be in a few years time.
 

tman

Well-known member
Let this thread serve as a reminder to others, NEVER to take your BMW to a BMW dealership post motorplan.
 

SMN325

Member
tman said:
Let this thread serve as a reminder to others, NEVER to take your BMW to a BMW dealership post motorplan.

From personal experience, this is not true for all dealerships - but unfortunately it is for most.
 
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