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MP Cancelled - E90 M3
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Karthik
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They can prove the car was over revved, when our E92 M3 was being run in, they complained that we revved higher than the claimed run in revs, they provided a graph showing the engine RPM's for about two weeks prior with time and date and rev meter showing 5800RPM at the time. We got lucky, and they told us not to do it again. Don't go legal, you will lose.
Also over revving of an M3 doesn't mean you went over 8400RPM, it could mean the vehicle was cold and the lights were on the dash and you went over the lights. This happened to our DCT.
Also over revving of an M3 doesn't mean you went over 8400RPM, it could mean the vehicle was cold and the lights were on the dash and you went over the lights. This happened to our DCT.
ASH M
Active member
The vehicles electronics won't allow it to rev pass the lights when cold. If yours does that, then there's a glitch in the system.Karthik said:
If it over revved, then well and good. But I shouldn't be held liable. If they can't prove I did something to over rev the car, then I shouldn't be responsible for the over rev. If their limiters in place didn't stop the revs, I don't see why it's my fault.
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momo1
Well-known member
I'd Understand the over revving if the MP claim was for engine damage.
But to me it seems they just looking for a loophole not to approve the claim, same with all "good" insurance companies.
I mean who buys and M3 not too drive it hard???
I can understand your annoyance mate!
But to me it seems they just looking for a loophole not to approve the claim, same with all "good" insurance companies.
I mean who buys and M3 not too drive it hard???
I can understand your annoyance mate!
Fordkoppie
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I also don't understand how it can be over revved with a DCT and if the limiter is still set at 8400 RPM.
I did notice when I drove other stock M3s, that the needle actually goes just past 8500 before it physically cuts. I simply dismissed it as gauge error and also because most BMWs have a limiter set at X +\- 50 RPM.
So now I wonder if those cars also "over revved" ?
I did notice when I drove other stock M3s, that the needle actually goes just past 8500 before it physically cuts. I simply dismissed it as gauge error and also because most BMWs have a limiter set at X +\- 50 RPM.
So now I wonder if those cars also "over revved" ?
Nastaliq
Well-known member
in my experience, very often BMW will fine tooth a car if there is major work to be done under MP, which is clearly the case at this time. and So, the only thing they could accuse you of is over-revving even though they cant prove such.
Have you considered getting BMW AG involved to provide the proof, as supposedly, they picked it up.
Have you considered getting BMW AG involved to provide the proof, as supposedly, they picked it up.
pimpassdaddy
Well-known member
Ag ASH, I'd personally cut my losses. Chances are that after all that effort, they will diagnose your car and find that there's nothing wrong with most of t he components like the diff etc, and won't be replaced anyway.
Trick is to do the big stuff in stages. BMW is very vigilant of massive repair bills like a month before expiry. Also, remember you have super low mileage, that too would make them raise an eyebrow as to why the diff & clutch needed replacing so quickly. Makes it smell of abuse.
Don't allow yourself to live in fear. Nothing wrong with your car, except the stuff that actually needed fixing... Move on, and enjoy it.
Trick is to do the big stuff in stages. BMW is very vigilant of massive repair bills like a month before expiry. Also, remember you have super low mileage, that too would make them raise an eyebrow as to why the diff & clutch needed replacing so quickly. Makes it smell of abuse.
Don't allow yourself to live in fear. Nothing wrong with your car, except the stuff that actually needed fixing... Move on, and enjoy it.
BMW MP has become very sticky about what they replace and how they feel about it ...
we have a dispute with the front shocks on the e90 as theres a rattle going over bumps .. asked if shocks could be replaced ... " only if we pay for a shock test report and it shows if a shock has failed " .. same story with brake disc's shuddering .. they will only replace once they hit the ware marker ..
its not even worth fighting because they throw out claims all day everyday ...
we have a dispute with the front shocks on the e90 as theres a rattle going over bumps .. asked if shocks could be replaced ... " only if we pay for a shock test report and it shows if a shock has failed " .. same story with brake disc's shuddering .. they will only replace once they hit the ware marker ..
its not even worth fighting because they throw out claims all day everyday ...
Sabretooth tiger
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Teezy_F30 said:
Glad I got out, such brilliant cars, but its let down by the poor service from the manufacturer.
ASH M
Active member
I've requested proof numerous times, the one time I did get a response. I was told to contact their legal department. Still waiting from their legal department.
From what I hear, you have to get a lawyer involved to get proof. Then once this is issued to you, you have to take it further legally if you wish to dispute it.
For me it's more money thrown down the drain.
But now, I think getting BMW AG involved won't be a bad idea.
Even if they lift the cancellation, my MP is finished. Will I still be able to send the car back for like the breaks and maybe for a full inspection which they never conduct according to me?
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From what I hear, you have to get a lawyer involved to get proof. Then once this is issued to you, you have to take it further legally if you wish to dispute it.
For me it's more money thrown down the drain.
But now, I think getting BMW AG involved won't be a bad idea.
Even if they lift the cancellation, my MP is finished. Will I still be able to send the car back for like the breaks and maybe for a full inspection which they never conduct according to me?
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Nastaliq
Well-known member
you should be able to, the right thing for them to do, would be to reinstate the MP and conduct whatever repairs were supposed to have been done while it was still under MP.
but we know they will not do whats right, so you have to decide with what you will accept and what you will let go of, should they reinstate the MP, which at this point seems unlikely, even if you get BMW AG involved.
but we know they will not do whats right, so you have to decide with what you will accept and what you will let go of, should they reinstate the MP, which at this point seems unlikely, even if you get BMW AG involved.
graan13
Active member
Interesting thread - Sorry to hear how they have schnied you out of the loot you put down for MP. It sounds to me like a feeble excuse not to pay for items that could/would need replacing more than anything.
Another interesting point would be - do they cancel all the motorplans on the cars given to the press/journo's at launches where they are revved to kingdom come, or for the cars that are used for the high speed driving courses and then sold as 'demos'...... I think not!
Just an excuse in my view......
Another interesting point would be - do they cancel all the motorplans on the cars given to the press/journo's at launches where they are revved to kingdom come, or for the cars that are used for the high speed driving courses and then sold as 'demos'...... I think not!
Just an excuse in my view......
Ratslaaf
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Ash, if you want proof of the stats they pulled off your car then I can assist with pulling the same stats for you, off your car. But they are confusing over revving and top speed. Either way, if you passed 270km/h it proves to them the limiters were taken off and this gives them ground to cancel plan.
