Jezebel sick... again + Supa Quick RANT

[Andy1GP]

I see, Neesh managed to find "jammed exhaust vanos" on Brett's Z4M using Inpa. Hopefully BMW will be able to fix and identify what the exact issue was.

I thought for the meantime maybe you could read the codes with Inpa? Maybe it leads you closer to a solution...

I would think the next step is to try understand exactly how the intake and exhaust vanos works. And then figure out if they maybe installed it incorrectly. Hopefully Lee can sort it out for you.

 

[Crash_Nemesis]

Have read it with INPA and DIS. INPA says internal index 242. Which when you look at that thread you posted earlier, means Exhaust Vanos Adaptation error. DIS says exactly that.

I think you right about me now needing to figure out how exactly the exhaust Vanos works. Been reading about the Degree's that it gets advanced by and when an error is thrown. Will post more info here once I find out.

 

[Hotclutch]

Suggest you take it to BMW for a diagnostic test and let them quote on the repairs needed. Once you know what needs fixing you can decide where or by whom you want to have it done.

 

[Crash_Nemesis]

We all know what will come of that HotClutch, tonnes of Cash spent with little to no solution. BMWSA are well known for not being able to sort out e46 M3 problems on the first try, they start replacing parts left right and centre, causing the owner to pay a massive bill in the end. Read some of the e46 M3 motorplan stories on here. The dealers have little to no clue how to fix these problems. THey replace the entire engine or the entire Vanos. They do not do repair jobs. Looks like I might have to import doctor vanos from the States, and that will be still ten times cheaper than getting a new Vanos from BMW.

The tools I used to Diagnose the car (INPA and DIS) are both BMW tools used for BMW cars. The codes we received are no different to the codes BMW use. I am 90% sure they will tell me to replace the whole Vanos. Which I replaced 7000km ago. I recently did an entire engine rebuild on this car, and my suspicion is the Vanos was not installed correctly. My issue now is, who to take it to, that knows how to install it correctly, so that the adaptation for the exhaust cam is within spec.

 

[B16A4]

an ohm meter can come in handy as i believe the e46 double vanos is somehow similar to E36 double vanos. just test the resistance of the exhaust solenoids if its up to spec. i once had the flyback diodes on the plug burnt on my 3.2 and diagnostics showed solenoid fault.

 

[hoosain]

i had a similar problem on my e36 3.2 and it turned out to be a broken exhaust vanos gear

 

[4PipeR]

We all know what will come of that HotClutch, tonnes of Cash spent with little to no solution. BMWSA are well known for not being able to sort out e46 M3 problems on the first try, they start replacing parts left right and centre, causing the owner to pay a massive bill in the end. Read some of the e46 M3 motorplan stories on here. The dealers have little to no clue how to fix these problems. THey replace the entire engine or the entire Vanos. They do not do repair jobs. Looks like I might have to import doctor vanos from the States, and that will be still ten times cheaper than getting a new Vanos from BMW.

The tools I used to Diagnose the car (INPA and DIS) are both BMW tools used for BMW cars. The codes we received are no different to the codes BMW use. I am 90% sure they will tell me to replace the whole Vanos. Which I replaced 7000km ago. I recently did an entire engine rebuild on this car, and my suspicion is the Vanos was not installed correctly. My issue now is, who to take it to, that knows how to install it correctly, so that the adaptation for the exhaust cam is within spec.

Sorry to hear Crash, hope it gets sorted soon. Why dont you ask SAV ?

 

[Andy1GP]

Find out what exactly was replaced Chris. And then what else there still is to the system. I'm sure not everything has been replaced, and as history tells, there should be a new weak link in the system with all the new goodies...

 

[BrettRuthnam]

This is sad .
I'll let you know what BMW says (taking the car in tomorrow morning).
I just hope its not the gear that broke.

See post #7
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=531450

 

[Wes]

Name and shame bud,

Supaquick Cresta is already on my sh*t list because of that incident last year.

Name and shame.


As for your power loss issues, good luck in getting it sorted hey :thumbs:

 

[Nick]

I wouldnt ask a Supa Quik for the time of day!

When it comes to brakes bro, either DIY or if you dont have time get some who knows what they are doing.


Good luck with section 2, I have no clue how Vanos works :bangdesk: :sorry:

 

[moranor@axis]

Crash if it was an install error problem it would have been there from day 1... do you think this is the case?

If you think its an install error talk to TuneTech, Budler and Sav about checking the timing and Vanos for you...

If the problem has come up after the rebuild talk to DrVanos and see what they say about the problem...

 

[SPIDER]

Wow buddy that sucks. Strong's hope it gets sorted soon

 

[GoCart]

Hi Chris,

If you like, you could also try RGMotorsport, they offer good guarantees on their work... BMW is their business... although not everyone share my view.

 

[Crash_Nemesis]

Hey Herman. Maybe I should try out old Rob Green, even though he's expensive as hell.

Thanks Hoosain and B16A4. Will look into those avenues.

I have recently discovered VANOS works on oil pressure. I have since discovered I have an oil leak somewhere, and when checking the levels, the car was pretty low on oil. Have since topped it up. But haven't rechecked if the code has cleared.

Hmmmm

 

[GoCart]

Hi Chris, they are expensive, I know all about that, the work is good though..

Interesting comment in the oil leak, I am not sure though if a “small” leak could cause such a drop in oil pressure that it could impair the VANOS function.. But if the oil level is very low, it might have an effect.

Of course I am not a mechanic, just looking at it logically.

You guys want me to drop my pressure washer at Burg’s to get that puppy cleaned up, to find the leak??

 

[moranor@axis]

if the car feels the same then i doubt the problem is solves by topping up the oil...

I heard word yesterday that Biesan is almost finished development work on S54 solutions this will be way cheaper than the DrVanos route :rollsmile:

 

[GoCart]

True, the seals are good... working tooo nice in my old girl.

 

[Crash_Nemesis]

You guys want me to drop my pressure washer at Burg’s to get that puppy cleaned up, to find the leak??

Any help would be appreciated man!!!

 

[calypso]

The S54 has its only little filter in the vanos. These are normally half blocked with some metal fillings which are assumed to be associated with the running in of a new engine. Considering this engine has been rebuilt, you make have additional crud in the vanos filter. Its a cheap cheap part to replace that doesnt fall part of any service schedules, might be worth a look. The dealer should have stock of this. Just bring a part number, because they probably wont find it on the parts system. Not an item that's commonly ordered.