How much power will the new F30 M3 produce??

[Jerez]

In line 6 turbo producing 430/440 bhp- it's gonna be a tuners dream with these turbos.... A remap alone will add at least 40/50 bhp.there will definitely be 500bhp plus cars on the road in 2014

 

[///MFanatic]

Here's the latest from BMWBlog

"When coming to market in 2014 the F80 BMW M3 will be powered by an inline-six engine. The engine of choice is a newly developed 3.2 liter unit that is rated at 450 horsepower. The new M3 is expected to be slightly faster than the current E90 generation thanks to a lower weight."

I can image BMW are going to be extremely tight with checks for remaps on this motor.

 

[msm]

Did this a while ago. Based on previous models, if you extrapolate a straight line you get the following:

Not entirely accurate, just a projection.

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Here's the "raw" data:

Model Year Power (KW) Torque (NM)
E30 (2.3) 1986 145 240
E36 (3.0) 1992 210 320
E36 (3.2) 1995 228 340
E46 (3.2) 2001 252 365
E90 (4.0) 2007 309 400
F30 (x.x) 2013 351 453 (Projections only)

 

[Fat Tom]

if you talking about the new V8 twin turbo , it makes 412kw as per my connection at BMW.

sorry that V8 is for the M5, M3 is straight 6 with tripple turbo, not sure if that means 3 turbos or just a triple rotar turbo....

 

[Fordkoppie]

Power delivery - Pfft!!:blab:
If they are not concerned about outright power, then why does it have a turbo engine to begin with

 

[Sankekur]

Why would BMW make a car that is a balanced? Who really cares about that, who actually drives their BMWs around corners fast or a track for that matter? Every one want to go fast from robot to robot or on the highway. Personally I will disappointed if it is anything less than 750HP (considering that BMW could get 1250HP out of a 1.5l single turbo engine years ago), ideally it should be mated with a cressida gearbox and a diff from a truck so you can do full throttle launches all day long.

 

[OppositeLockMT]

Power delivery - Pfft!!:blab:
If they are not concerned about outright power, then why does it have a turbo engine to begin with

Emissions, efficiency?

 

[skiet]

Im guessing 320 to 330 flywheel kw... :fencelook:

 

[Fordkoppie]

ideally it should be mated with a cressida gearbox and a diff from a truck so you can do full throttle launches all day long.

raise::roflol:

 

[OppositeLockMT]

Why would BMW make a car that is a balanced? Who really cares about that, who actually drives their BMWs around corners fast or a track for that matter? Every one want to go fast from robot to robot or on the highway. Personally I will disappointed if it is anything less than 750HP (considering that BMW could get 1250HP out of a 1.5l single turbo engine years ago), ideally it should be mated with a cressida gearbox and a diff from a truck so you can do full throttle launches all day long.

It's all about living up to the core values of the manufacturer, straight line speed hasn't always been BMW's priority. Just like outright power hasn't always been Land Rover's priority, different manufacturers represent different things.

If the F80 M3 is a much better car to drive than the E9x generation through saving weight and a great chassis then I won't be complaining. BMW giving in to the power war will result in diluted ///M cars - which sort of has already happened.

It's all about the appeal of the brand, Bugattis reach speeds of up 400kms an hour - no one is going to go that fast. Land Rovers and G wagons can go to the ends of the earth - no one is willing to go that far. Which is why BMW and Porsche hit the nail on the head with the X5 and Cayenne; big SUVs with saloon-like characteristics on the road, space and a higher ride which is what most of us will ever need.

 

[Sankekur]

Why would BMW make a car that is a balanced? Who really cares about that, who actually drives their BMWs around corners fast or a track for that matter? Every one want to go fast from robot to robot or on the highway. Personally I will disappointed if it is anything less than 750HP (considering that BMW could get 1250HP out of a 1.5l single turbo engine years ago), ideally it should be mated with a cressida gearbox and a diff from a truck so you can do full throttle launches all day long.

It's all about living up to the core values of the manufacturer, straight line speed hasn't always been BMW's priority. Just like outright power hasn't always been Land Rover's priority, different manufacturers represent different things.

If the F80 M3 is a much better car to drive than the E9x generation through saving weight and a great chassis then I won't be complaining. BMW giving in to the power war will result in diluted ///M cars - which sort of has already happened.

It's all about the appeal of the brand, Bugattis reach speeds of up 400kms an hour - no one is going to go that fast. Land Rovers and G wagons can go to the ends of the earth - no one is willing to go that far. Which is why BMW and Porsche hit the nail on the head with the X5 and Cayenne; big SUVs with saloon-like characteristics on the road, space and a higher ride which is what most of us will ever need.

BMW's core values is exactly my point....it is not like the average user ever uses all the dynamic capabilities that are designed into the the chassis and suspension setup so why do it? Most people only want an M car as a drag racer, so why not just give them a drag racer, who is going to know it can't go around bends, and who will care? In the same way that the turbo engines supposedly gives both fuel consumption and M performance.....

 

[///MFanatic]

Why would BMW make a car that is a balanced? Who really cares about that, who actually drives their BMWs around corners fast or a track for that matter? Every one want to go fast from robot to robot or on the highway. Personally I will disappointed if it is anything less than 750HP (considering that BMW could get 1250HP out of a 1.5l single turbo engine years ago), ideally it should be mated with a cressida gearbox and a diff from a truck so you can do full throttle launches all day long.

:roflol: :rollsmile: I don't know whether this was a serious post or you taking the piss.

BMW offer the 135 or 335 for what you looking for, for the guys that want balance, well thats what the ///M is made for.

 

[OppositeLockMT]

Why would BMW make a car that is a balanced? Who really cares about that, who actually drives their BMWs around corners fast or a track for that matter? Every one want to go fast from robot to robot or on the highway. Personally I will disappointed if it is anything less than 750HP (considering that BMW could get 1250HP out of a 1.5l single turbo engine years ago), ideally it should be mated with a cressida gearbox and a diff from a truck so you can do full throttle launches all day long.

It's all about living up to the core values of the manufacturer, straight line speed hasn't always been BMW's priority. Just like outright power hasn't always been Land Rover's priority, different manufacturers represent different things.

If the F80 M3 is a much better car to drive than the E9x generation through saving weight and a great chassis then I won't be complaining. BMW giving in to the power war will result in diluted ///M cars - which sort of has already happened.

It's all about the appeal of the brand, Bugattis reach speeds of up 400kms an hour - no one is going to go that fast. Land Rovers and G wagons can go to the ends of the earth - no one is willing to go that far. Which is why BMW and Porsche hit the nail on the head with the X5 and Cayenne; big SUVs with saloon-like characteristics on the road, space and a higher ride which is what most of us will ever need.

BMW's core values is exactly my point....it is not like the average user ever uses all the dynamic capabilities that are designed into the the chassis and suspension setup so why do it? Most people only want an M car as a drag racer, so why not just give them a drag racer, who is going to know it can't go around bends, and who will care? In the same way that the turbo engines supposedly gives both fuel consumption and M performance.....

I totally respect your opinion. Each to their own I guess, I've always viewed ///M cars as track-oriented and AMGs as drag racers or "autobahn stormers" as some may call it. I would prefer it stayed that way, otherwise all cars will start to be the same; we'll have Audi, BMW and Mercedes doing the same thing in the same way - Top Gear's comparison of the RS4, M3 and C63 is a great example of this: three amazing cars with different characteristics that appeal to different people.

 

[moranor@axis]

a good chassis with the right suspension setup can be felt every time you take a corner even if you not trying to be on the raggedy edge...

Its like buying a tailored suit... sure you can buy a cheaper suit with similar or maybe even better material, BUT all the little changes made to the tailored suit just make it that much better... even if you dont know how it was altered you will still look and feel great every time you wear it...

 

[SP33DYV]

Why would BMW make a car that is a balanced? Who really cares about that, who actually drives their BMWs around corners fast or a track for that matter? Every one want to go fast from robot to robot or on the highway. Personally I will disappointed if it is anything less than 750HP (considering that BMW could get 1250HP out of a 1.5l single turbo engine years ago), ideally it should be mated with a cressida gearbox and a diff from a truck so you can do full throttle launches all day long.

Grapgat. :biglol:


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[Crash_Nemesis]

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