Had to be Done

TurboLlew

Honorary ///Member
Congrats on both the cars! Makes perfect sense in terms of reasoning. I feel like they always use the 7 as the test mule for tech and you pay the price in terms of reliability and integration. Still, those are excessive volumes of visits to the dealer.

I am busy with a mini project now on an older car and I think having had the 4C which is fairly exotic as well as the M5 that has modern car prices and complexity (albeit with reliability and performance attached to it), you often forget just how inexpensive and simple it is to bring an older girl up to snuff as opposed to new things that need coding/special tools/parts replaced as whole sub-systems, no parts shared with anything else etc. It is also a reminder (and confirmation to me anyway) of what I say about the 'tech' distracting from the experience. A beautiful set of clocks, no RGB interior colour scheme and no giant infotainment screen in your field of view is just 'better' in many ways. I know I would be in the minority on this... I have found myself paying a heck of a lot more attention.

... but to the point I'm trying to make these giant displays and all this tech is powered by CPUs/SOCs, GPUs and RAM/VRAM/Flash storage, associated cooling in that hot humid and vibration-laden environment etc etc etc It is connected to the mothership via tech as well. It is a mini server blade... a remote node sitting in your vehicle waiting to die. An excuse for HQ to charge you for whole systems being replaced at great cost or to make you give up in frustration and just buy a new one or a different one. I want to know what happens when eg: the full OLED displays and LEDs with all the proprietary tech inside vehicles like the new G90 dies... AND THEY WILL DIE. In fact they are already dying or at least malfunctioning regularly in all manufacturers that have adopted them.

The F90 already has too much for my liking and it is not as connected as this current generation of cars which have gone too far. IMHO. Recently Ford patented tech to automatically tell the traffic department you were speeding... Toyota also pings HQ without you knowing as soon as you go over 85MPH... they will deny your warranty claim on a Corolla GR, This is a car that already has issues so severe that is almost appears designed to fail and owner complaints are being astroturfed everywhere (like almost all modern Toyotas except the one with a BMW motor... even the Yaris GR had many failures).

The reason? Because you abused the car marketed as a bulletproof blue-collar track weapon by going over 85MPH.
How do they know? It tattles.
How do you stop it? You can't!

This is a car that is sold with a track experience as part of the deal so you could void your warranty by taking delivery at the track...
 

Bugger

///Member
Congrats on both the cars! Makes perfect sense in terms of reasoning. I feel like they always use the 7 as the test mule for tech and you pay the price in terms of reliability and integration. Still, those are excessive volumes of visits to the dealer.

I am busy with a mini project now on an older car and I think having had the 4C which is fairly exotic as well as the M5 that has modern car prices and complexity (albeit with reliability and performance attached to it), you often forget just how inexpensive and simple it is to bring an older girl up to snuff as opposed to new things that need coding/special tools/parts replaced as whole sub-systems, no parts shared with anything else etc. It is also a reminder (and confirmation to me anyway) of what I say about the 'tech' distracting from the experience. A beautiful set of clocks, no RGB interior colour scheme and no giant infotainment screen in your field of view is just 'better' in many ways. I know I would be in the minority on this... I have found myself paying a heck of a lot more attention.

... but to the point I'm trying to make these giant displays and all this tech is powered by CPUs/SOCs, GPUs and RAM/VRAM/Flash storage, associated cooling in that hot humid and vibration-laden environment etc etc etc It is connected to the mothership via tech as well. It is a mini server blade... a remote node sitting in your vehicle waiting to die. An excuse for HQ to charge you for whole systems being replaced at great cost or to make you give up in frustration and just buy a new one or a different one. I want to know what happens when eg: the full OLED displays and LEDs with all the proprietary tech inside vehicles like the new G90 dies... AND THEY WILL DIE. In fact they are already dying or at least malfunctioning regularly in all manufacturers that have adopted them.

The F90 already has too much for my liking and it is not as connected as this current generation of cars which have gone too far. IMHO. Recently Ford patented tech to automatically tell the traffic department you were speeding... Toyota also pings HQ without you knowing as soon as you go over 85MPH... they will deny your warranty claim on a Corolla GR, This is a car that already has issues so severe that is almost appears designed to fail and owner complaints are being astroturfed everywhere (like almost all modern Toyotas except the one with a BMW motor... even the Yaris GR had many failures).

The reason? Because you abused the car marketed as a bulletproof blue-collar track weapon by going over 85MPH.
How do they know? It tattles.
How do you stop it? You can't!

This is a car that is sold with a track experience as part of the deal so you could void your warranty by taking delivery at the track...
You're right on many of these points, there's nothing quite like an analogue car is there? That feeling of being connected to a machine, now we're just the fleshy part in the driver seat pointing it in the right direction, and even then it can still do most of the job without you. May as well open a mini bar in the centre console and just enjoy the view.

The 7, yeah, great car, but I am not sad to see the back of it. The X4 does feel a lot simpler and tactile, and my god is it quick. I was caught off guard this morning with a "spirited" bit of driving around Randburg, and I was very impressed. The tech is enough not to bore me, and as we progress more and more and our cars become more IoT focused, I sense that this X4 is just on the cusp of being not too much. The problem is that cars nowadays are detracting from the very reason they're build, for the enjoyment of driving. I still love to drive, other than pissing my wife off it's my favourite thing in the world to do, to feel the momentum of pressing on, to feel the butterflies whirling up like a turbo in my stomach. Finding that though is becoming increasingly difficult. Yes, I turned down a 500HP M car to go with the little brother, and I am actually very glad I did. And the only thing that's going to be telling on me about how fast I'm going is about 4 foot tall and runs his mouth all the time (although I know the nanny systems in the car do anyway, he's just an added nanny).

I do think I have copped onto a winner here with the X4.
 

maleven-GP

Well-known member
Congratulations sir.. most importantly, despite the scary bills, albeit under plan, you still remained true to the brand that matters 😉 😀
 

Bugger

///Member
Glad that your nads didn't find themselves under the meat tenderizer :ROFLMAO:
Luckily they survived to fight another day, they were hurting a bit when we were at BMW in anticipation of being extricated from my body with violent force. So there was a collective sigh of relief.

I was wondering if you still called Bugger or if you are now referred to as Bella. Told you she would love it.
All good thankfully. And she really does love it, so do I, that B48 is quite a peppy engine (is it the B48?) and with 180kws it has some decent poke. Much better than the MINI.

The X4 is a brilliant car, I am REALLY impressed with it.
 

Nürburgring'R_ZA

Active member
Thanks guys for all the kind words. So, my nut sack is still in tact! She LOVES the car, so the little fellas are spared another day! Will post pics of the 128 soonest.
A Bell's for the gentleman! Had it gone the other way, it surely would have "balls please" for the gentleman. Congratulations!!
 
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