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F30 320i M-Sport Opinions...
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RAArmstrong
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RR001 said:
Because torque
RR001 said:
Having driven both, I can tell you that there is just about nothing to choose between the two as far as pure performance in the sense of acceleration and top speed is concerned. They are so closely matched that the skill of the driver will probably determine who wins any type of race.
The WAY the power is delivered is vastly different though. It just depends on your point of view which you will enjoy more.
For me and other diesel fans the diesel power delivery feels smooth and effortless and refined. Especially when overtaking at medium cruising speeds 120-160, the diesel feels especially lively, accelerating so effortessly and powerfully that that the driver has to be really disciplined to not drive at speeds which could possibly get him into serious trouble with the law.
The "i" fans will say that they don't enjoy the low revs. I still don't quite understand that....but hey let's humour them.
To me the "i" feels like it is labouring to match the "d", like the engine has to work double as hard. It does not have the "effortless" feel of the "d".
Sort of conjures the image in my mind of a 50cc 2 stroke motorcycle "screaming" down the road at 90 km/h.
I don't really get people preferring the "i" because of revs. We are talking luxury sedan here. Compared to cheaper cars, the feel is quieter ad more refined. It's not like the "i"'s motor has any "grand prix" like sound or feel. You dont get to "feel" the revs anyway.
To diesel haters the "d" feels dead because there is no sense of "revs" or effort from the engine, to diesel fans the "i" seems to be working it's proverbial "ass" off just to keep up. In the end performance is the same.
The "d" is a lot lighter on fuel, but costs more....so I guess each to his own....
I must say the thing that gets to me a bit is that invariably when I speak to someone who is considering buying a 320i, and I ask them why not the "d" ? They usually say that they have this or that dislike of diesels.
So far so good, no problem. Then I suggest they just for the "hell-of-it" test drive a "d'". And just about every single time they don't. That is a bit frustrating. How can you compare or have an opinion if you have never even driven the car?
On the one occasion someone (a colleague) did test the "d" (by taking a spin in mine), the response was very predictable: " a few minutes of driving in stunned silence. Then "shit....bloody hell...I see now what you mean..."
You test both and you still prefer the "i"....then sure...go for it. It's not gnna happen often though.
Meh....no bad of yours :=):
Freedom of speech, I say. :rollsmile:
So far so good, no problem. Then I suggest they just for the "hell-of-it" test drive a "d'". And just about every single time they don't. That is a bit frustrating. How can you compare or have an opinion if you have never even driven the car?
On the one occasion someone (a colleague) did test the "d" (by taking a spin in mine), the response was very predictable: " a few minutes of driving in stunned silence. Then "shit....bloody hell...I see now what you mean..."
You test both and you still prefer the "i"....then sure...go for it. It's not gnna happen often though.
Gbmw said:
Meh....no bad of yours :=):
Freedom of speech, I say. :rollsmile:
Gbmw
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yeah I hear you, just different strokes for folks. Look I think deep inside diesel is better....for someone else that is :rollsmile:. My Boet has a X5 30.D, my ex had the E91 320d touring, Pop's 730d and ol'lady E60 530d. So in honesty I know from driving them that the are somewhat better (in my opinion) especially the fact that when I had my E60 530i I could direct compare with my moms E60 530D.
BUT..... I just can't bring myself to OWN a diesel....sooooooooooooo "i's" are better!! :tease:
BUT..... I just can't bring myself to OWN a diesel....sooooooooooooo "i's" are better!! :tease:
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SP33DYV
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Devon, just remember one thing, it will never sound like a six cylinder. 
But it will almost run with your 330i and will use less fuel.
:idea:
Rather look for a late model e90 335i. Will cost you similar money.
My 2 cents.
But it will almost run with your 330i and will use less fuel.
:idea:
Rather look for a late model e90 335i. Will cost you similar money.
My 2 cents.
Iceman007
Active member
Vicus said:
:thumbs:
I was one of those people and said never will I drive a diesel I love my 6 cylinder and has the best soundtrack :fencelook:
As I mentioned before that I had an F30 320i for an week and it was like ok compared to my 325i
Sales guy convinced me to go and drive the diesel eventually and yes it was sold :inlove:
Ok it does not have the sound of a 6 cylinder but man it pulls better than both my 325i e46 end e90 ihave owned. and the F30 320i I had for a week :thumbdo:
Ok like i say proof is in the pudding and all the F30 320i Ihave taken on since I have my 320d from robot to robot they just stay behind. (Hence the reason im at 25 000km and tyres not much left on them :fencelook: )
I agree dont shoot down another car if you have not driven or experianced that Cars performance. Go drive both and then you decide and if you like the 320i just because of the sound then so be it but it will not win in consumption and performance against the diesel. I have driven both and my choice was the diesel after saying never in my life will I drive a tracktor :rollsmile:
Xeqtr
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SP33DYV said:Devon, just remember one thing, it will never sound like a six cylinder.
But it will almost run with your 330i and will use less fuel.
:idea:
Rather look for a late model e90 335i. Will cost you similar money.
My 2 cents.
Thanks for your 2 cents bro
.My whole thing is I want to buy smart... a car in plan, that's not gonna cost me unpredictably. I need to start worrying about buying a place, I am definitely going to test drive the diesel after the opinions of so many. I have driven a few diesals and I LOOOVE the power delivery. So I don't have a biased opinion of "i don't like the diesals cause they smoke and they drink the devils fuel haha". But I just prefer non diesel motors, just a preference.
RAArmstrong
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Smoke is goooood :inlove:
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Shiny
Member
My mum actually made the change from an e90 330i (A)-normal with 17's to a F30 320I (A) m-sport with 19's. I’ve driven them enough to give my opinion
F30 Pros
- A more comfortable ride
- The car doesn’t get as rattled by bumps. I hated this on the E90.
- The car just feels more balanced, so you can carry more speed into corners.
- The auto is a lovely gearbox
- New motorplan
- doesn’t feel slow. So you don’t miss the power on a daily drive (might be the gearbox and reef to blame here)
- The steering feels better weighted (e90 was too heavy)
- The difference between eco-pro and sport means you have a bipolar car...two nicely different personalities
F30 Cons
- It doesn’t have that wonderful straight six wail
- It is slower
- Depreciation
- BMW doesn’t even give you map lights as standard
F30 Pros
- A more comfortable ride
- The car doesn’t get as rattled by bumps. I hated this on the E90.
- The car just feels more balanced, so you can carry more speed into corners.
- The auto is a lovely gearbox
- New motorplan
- doesn’t feel slow. So you don’t miss the power on a daily drive (might be the gearbox and reef to blame here)
- The steering feels better weighted (e90 was too heavy)
- The difference between eco-pro and sport means you have a bipolar car...two nicely different personalities
F30 Cons
- It doesn’t have that wonderful straight six wail
- It is slower
- Depreciation
- BMW doesn’t even give you map lights as standard
Karthik
New member
F30 either way. 320i or d you won't go wrong but I recommend the 320d. 135i is an older vehicle and I liked the speed but wouldn't want to be stuck in one for 4 years. F30 feels nicer and is a comfort cruiser. E87 hmm , Good but not great and definitely not gonna be a 325is of the future. Its not rare and they's lots of them out there.
