E46 M3 TOTAL REBUILD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rooi_Willie

///Member
zaleonardz@DentDocVPS said:
Shoo, Dont even know where to start...

K lets think

On the e46
The HVAC, Audio, Rain sensor, light module ect on the e46 works on K-Line.

The only can in the car is the DSC, IKE (cluster) and DME.

On the E60, it is totally can and MOST

Stuff that runs on MOST would be the entertainment stuff, so that you can actually scratch out, and use the E46 audio stuff ect.

Safety systems, such as the airbag, head restraints, seatbelt stalk on the E60 runs byteflite, which is optical and not part of MOST, which means, you must run the ASR module from the E46

Your challange is going to be that you probably need a WOL signal from the DME or at the very least the CAS, waking up the other modules... and thats exactly, where you are going to start poo-ing yourself.

Now since you will be running the S85 DME, you can no longer run EWS, but you must run CAS. Which means, you will have to change a great deal of things.

Do you have the diamond shaped key (I HOPE) on the E60, cause if so then you can transplant the key section onto the e46 key. If you have an FOB on the E60 "Your going to have a bad time"

Are you going to be using the gearbox out of the M5, if so, your going to have a bad time.

Simply because, the DSC will be feeding the gearbox with information, along with the DME,but then you will need the DSC controller and pump out of the E60, which again is CAN, so you would have to break out the can to it.

But if you run the E60 DSC, which is not really a problem, you are going to have to extend brake pipes and all kinds of bits, the booster you can use out of the E60, thats not an issue, but inputs on wheel sensors ect, I cannot even begin to fathem.

Next issue is going to be the configurable diff and sports suspension...

Shooo, your major issue here is the incompatible bus versions....


You need to call me or buy lunch, I will come visit.

This project of course is entirely doable, has been done, so it can be done.

But the master task is so that everything in the car still works, everything must work, right down to the last ashtray light....

Fun and games....

Dafuq did you just say...? :rollsmile:

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zaleonardz

Well-known member
Naw screw that...

I shall help ya.... Awesome project this, and it has to be do-able,

Give me a call and I shall come and help you plan, really exciting project this.

What ya doing on saturday morning...


M3M5POWER@SOUNDSGOOD said:
zaleonardz@DentDocVPS said:
Shoo, Dont even know where to start...

K lets think

On the e46
The HVAC, Audio, Rain sensor, light module ect on the e46 works on K-Line.

The only can in the car is the DSC, IKE (cluster) and DME.

On the E60, it is totally can and MOST

Stuff that runs on MOST would be the entertainment stuff, so that you can actually scratch out, and use the E46 audio stuff ect.

Safety systems, such as the airbag, head restraints, seatbelt stalk on the E60 runs byteflite, which is optical and not part of MOST, which means, you must run the ASR module from the E46

Your challange is going to be that you probably need a WOL signal from the DME or at the very least the CAS, waking up the other modules... and thats exactly, where you are going to start poo-ing yourself.

Now since you will be running the S85 DME, you can no longer run EWS, but you must run CAS. Which means, you will have to change a great deal of things.

Do you have the diamond shaped key (I HOPE) on the E60, cause if so then you can transplant the key section onto the e46 key. If you have an FOB on the E60 "Your going to have a bad time"

Are you going to be using the gearbox out of the M5, if so, your going to have a bad time.

Simply because, the DSC will be feeding the gearbox with information, along with the DME,but then you will need the DSC controller and pump out of the E60, which again is CAN, so you would have to break out the can to it.

But if you run the E60 DSC, which is not really a problem, you are going to have to extend brake pipes and all kinds of bits, the booster you can use out of the E60, thats not an issue, but inputs on wheel sensors ect, I cannot even begin to fathem.

Next issue is going to be the configurable diff and sports suspension...

Shooo, your major issue here is the incompatible bus versions....


You need to call me or buy lunch, I will come visit.

This project of course is entirely doable, has been done, so it can be done.

But the master task is so that everything in the car still works, everything must work, right down to the last ashtray light....

Fun and games....

You seem to have it all planned out as to how I am gonna suffer hey:cry::cry::argh::argh::bangdesk::bangdesk:
maybe I should just ship the car to Germany and let them do the whole transplant for me :idea::idea:
 

M3M5POWER

Active member
zaleonardz@DentDocVPS said:
Naw screw that...

I shall help ya.... Awesome project this, and it has to be do-able,

Give me a call and I shall come and help you plan, really exciting project this.

What ya doing on saturday morning...


M3M5POWER@SOUNDSGOOD said:
zaleonardz@DentDocVPS said:
Shoo, Dont even know where to start...

K lets think

On the e46
The HVAC, Audio, Rain sensor, light module ect on the e46 works on K-Line.

The only can in the car is the DSC, IKE (cluster) and DME.

On the E60, it is totally can and MOST

Stuff that runs on MOST would be the entertainment stuff, so that you can actually scratch out, and use the E46 audio stuff ect.

Safety systems, such as the airbag, head restraints, seatbelt stalk on the E60 runs byteflite, which is optical and not part of MOST, which means, you must run the ASR module from the E46

Your challange is going to be that you probably need a WOL signal from the DME or at the very least the CAS, waking up the other modules... and thats exactly, where you are going to start poo-ing yourself.

Now since you will be running the S85 DME, you can no longer run EWS, but you must run CAS. Which means, you will have to change a great deal of things.

Do you have the diamond shaped key (I HOPE) on the E60, cause if so then you can transplant the key section onto the e46 key. If you have an FOB on the E60 "Your going to have a bad time"

Are you going to be using the gearbox out of the M5, if so, your going to have a bad time.

Simply because, the DSC will be feeding the gearbox with information, along with the DME,but then you will need the DSC controller and pump out of the E60, which again is CAN, so you would have to break out the can to it.

But if you run the E60 DSC, which is not really a problem, you are going to have to extend brake pipes and all kinds of bits, the booster you can use out of the E60, thats not an issue, but inputs on wheel sensors ect, I cannot even begin to fathem.

Next issue is going to be the configurable diff and sports suspension...

Shooo, your major issue here is the incompatible bus versions....


You need to call me or buy lunch, I will come visit.

This project of course is entirely doable, has been done, so it can be done.

But the master task is so that everything in the car still works, everything must work, right down to the last ashtray light....

Fun and games....

You seem to have it all planned out as to how I am gonna suffer hey:cry::cry::argh::argh::bangdesk::bangdesk:
maybe I should just ship the car to Germany and let them do the whole transplant for me :idea::idea:

Eish i will keep intouch with you bud ,thanks for your input and help and concern will PM you ,:thumbs::thumbs:
 

zaleonardz

Well-known member
Drop me a PM, I shall help you think.



M3M5POWER@SOUNDSGOOD said:
zaleonardz@DentDocVPS said:
Naw screw that...

I shall help ya.... Awesome project this, and it has to be do-able,

Give me a call and I shall come and help you plan, really exciting project this.

What ya doing on saturday morning...


M3M5POWER@SOUNDSGOOD said:
zaleonardz@DentDocVPS said:
Shoo, Dont even know where to start...

K lets think

On the e46
The HVAC, Audio, Rain sensor, light module ect on the e46 works on K-Line.

The only can in the car is the DSC, IKE (cluster) and DME.

On the E60, it is totally can and MOST

Stuff that runs on MOST would be the entertainment stuff, so that you can actually scratch out, and use the E46 audio stuff ect.

Safety systems, such as the airbag, head restraints, seatbelt stalk on the E60 runs byteflite, which is optical and not part of MOST, which means, you must run the ASR module from the E46

Your challange is going to be that you probably need a WOL signal from the DME or at the very least the CAS, waking up the other modules... and thats exactly, where you are going to start poo-ing yourself.

Now since you will be running the S85 DME, you can no longer run EWS, but you must run CAS. Which means, you will have to change a great deal of things.

Do you have the diamond shaped key (I HOPE) on the E60, cause if so then you can transplant the key section onto the e46 key. If you have an FOB on the E60 "Your going to have a bad time"

Are you going to be using the gearbox out of the M5, if so, your going to have a bad time.

Simply because, the DSC will be feeding the gearbox with information, along with the DME,but then you will need the DSC controller and pump out of the E60, which again is CAN, so you would have to break out the can to it.

But if you run the E60 DSC, which is not really a problem, you are going to have to extend brake pipes and all kinds of bits, the booster you can use out of the E60, thats not an issue, but inputs on wheel sensors ect, I cannot even begin to fathem.

Next issue is going to be the configurable diff and sports suspension...

Shooo, your major issue here is the incompatible bus versions....


You need to call me or buy lunch, I will come visit.

This project of course is entirely doable, has been done, so it can be done.

But the master task is so that everything in the car still works, everything must work, right down to the last ashtray light....

Fun and games....

You seem to have it all planned out as to how I am gonna suffer hey:cry::cry::argh::argh::bangdesk::bangdesk:
maybe I should just ship the car to Germany and let them do the whole transplant for me :idea::idea:

Eish i will keep intouch with you bud ,thanks for your input and help and concern will PM you ,:thumbs::thumbs:
 

M3M5POWER

Active member
zaleonardz@DentDocVPS said:
Drop me a PM, I shall help you think.



M3M5POWER@SOUNDSGOOD said:
zaleonardz@DentDocVPS said:
Naw screw that...

I shall help ya.... Awesome project this, and it has to be do-able,

Give me a call and I shall come and help you plan, really exciting project this.

What ya doing on saturday morning...


M3M5POWER@SOUNDSGOOD said:
zaleonardz@DentDocVPS said:
Shoo, Dont even know where to start...

K lets think

On the e46
The HVAC, Audio, Rain sensor, light module ect on the e46 works on K-Line.

The only can in the car is the DSC, IKE (cluster) and DME.

On the E60, it is totally can and MOST

Stuff that runs on MOST would be the entertainment stuff, so that you can actually scratch out, and use the E46 audio stuff ect.

Safety systems, such as the airbag, head restraints, seatbelt stalk on the E60 runs byteflite, which is optical and not part of MOST, which means, you must run the ASR module from the E46

Your challange is going to be that you probably need a WOL signal from the DME or at the very least the CAS, waking up the other modules... and thats exactly, where you are going to start poo-ing yourself.

Now since you will be running the S85 DME, you can no longer run EWS, but you must run CAS. Which means, you will have to change a great deal of things.

Do you have the diamond shaped key (I HOPE) on the E60, cause if so then you can transplant the key section onto the e46 key. If you have an FOB on the E60 "Your going to have a bad time"

Are you going to be using the gearbox out of the M5, if so, your going to have a bad time.

Simply because, the DSC will be feeding the gearbox with information, along with the DME,but then you will need the DSC controller and pump out of the E60, which again is CAN, so you would have to break out the can to it.

But if you run the E60 DSC, which is not really a problem, you are going to have to extend brake pipes and all kinds of bits, the booster you can use out of the E60, thats not an issue, but inputs on wheel sensors ect, I cannot even begin to fathem.

Next issue is going to be the configurable diff and sports suspension...

Shooo, your major issue here is the incompatible bus versions....


You need to call me or buy lunch, I will come visit.

This project of course is entirely doable, has been done, so it can be done.

But the master task is so that everything in the car still works, everything must work, right down to the last ashtray light....

Fun and games....

You seem to have it all planned out as to how I am gonna suffer hey:cry::cry::argh::argh::bangdesk::bangdesk:
maybe I should just ship the car to Germany and let them do the whole transplant for me :idea::idea:

Eish i will keep intouch with you bud ,thanks for your input and help and concern will PM you ,:thumbs::thumbs:

Thanks bud will do so:thumbs:
 

Crash_Nemesis

///Member
Leonard really does know what he is talking about Yusef. I would take him up on the offer. Really great guy and has helped me a lot. LIKE... A LOT!!!
 

M3M5POWER

Active member
Crash_Nemesis said:
Leonard really does know what he is talking about Yusef. I would take him up on the offer. Really great guy and has helped me a lot. LIKE... A LOT!!!
:ty::ty:
I can see that from the respond ,like i said will be intouch with him,:thumbs::thumbs:
 

M3M5POWER

Active member
@leonard , would it be rather a better option to put a aftermarket management and adapt only the engine harness ?
Or any suggestion out there as to what would be the best option to get the V10 going in the M3:fencelook::fencelook::fencelook:
 

zaleonardz

Well-known member
Aftermarket management would be so much better,

It would really make your life a lot easier.

1. You dont need to worry about CAS, keys, you can use the standard diff from the M3

You would need to change the gearbox to a manual out of a E92 M3, or perhaps an E34 540/6 speed.

Thing is, if you do not integrate the diff and the gearbox, the DME might "sense" there is an issue, and put you into protection mode, which is going to suck, as you will then have a V10 that wont rev past 3k or something..

Aftermarket management would just be so much easier,

What management is going to run that engine though


M3M5POWER@SOUNDSGOOD said:
@leonard , would it be rather a better option to put a aftermarket management and adapt only the engine harness ?
Or any suggestion out there as to what would be the best option to get the V10 going in the M3:fencelook::fencelook::fencelook:
 

M3M5POWER

Active member
zaleonardz@DentDocVPS said:
Aftermarket management would be so much better,

It would really make your life a lot easier.

1. You dont need to worry about CAS, keys, you can use the standard diff from the M3

You would need to change the gearbox to a manual out of a E92 M3, or perhaps an E34 540/6 speed.

Thing is, if you do not integrate the diff and the gearbox, the DME might "sense" there is an issue, and put you into protection mode, which is going to suck, as you will then have a V10 that wont rev past 3k or something..

Aftermarket management would just be so much easier,

What management is going to run that engine though


M3M5POWER@SOUNDSGOOD said:
@leonard , would it be rather a better option to put a aftermarket management and adapt only the engine harness ?
Or any suggestion out there as to what would be the best option to get the V10 going in the M3:fencelook::fencelook::fencelook:

Any suggetions on a management to use :fencelook:
 

M3M5POWER

Active member
the management need to control 10 cylinders and 4 vanos and launch control etc etc ,and I doubt any available local.


thanks for the link ,need to do some serious research and consider the various options.
:thumbs::thumbs:

how does the diff pikup at the ecu as there is no sensors on the diff or linked to it bud.
 

M3M5POWER

Active member
spawn616 said:
haltech motec link.........


although the cost will be rough:thumbdo:

but this build must go on:thumbs:



Thanks bud.But i see no link present here ,
its very difficult as this is a v10 and would have to find the right one that is trailed and tested without any hassles,i will get in touch will them and see what they offer :thumbs::thumbs:
:ty::ty:
 
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