E46 M3 *No longer Supercharged :)

Tareeq

Active member
:clapper: Andy I've got nothing but mad respect for you and the work you do on your cars, I cant even begin to imagine how rewarding it must be for you when you get to sort something like this out :praise:

Please keep us updated with the "testing" results :cartel:
 

Andy1GP

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So I removed the vanos yet again to try and find a gremlin that has been haunting me. Everything checks out except for the Timing. Seems that following the Beisan procedure after all isn't correct.

The car is now error free and seems to pull better, with one problem though. It started pinging and is more noticeable when on operating temperature. This leads me to believe the car is in fact running healthier but also hotter causing pre ignition. Combined with the fact that it's still on OEM DCPR8 NGKR plugs doesn't help.

I'm going to get DCPR9 plugs asap and if that doesn't cure it, add even more octane. I'm pretty sure that will cure it, if not we will modify the map to pull ignition timing.

When this is fixed a rerun with the C63 and K04 GTI is in order :rollsmile:
 

Andy1GP

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Guys If anyone can help me find DCPR9 EIX plugs I'd really appreciate it.

NGK south africa has stock but getting someone to order them is proving quite difficult.
 

Nikhil

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Ideally you want a set of copper plugs, I know the boosted E36 guys prefer them over the platinum because they better conductors and they burn cooler. They also set the plug gap relatively tight so look into that as well as factory gap specs aren't ideal for boost
 

Andy1GP

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444YYY@TheFanatics said:
Andy, you may have seen it but here is the BMW TIS for timing.. I don't know much about the detail, but you can compare for your own info...

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Nikhil@TheFanatics said:
Ideally you want a set of copper plugs, I know the boosted E36 guys prefer them over the platinum because they better conductors and they burn cooler. They also set the plug gap relatively tight so look into that as well as factory gap specs aren't ideal for boost

Thanks for the input guys :thumbs:

Niks, they are copper core at the end of the day. Merely the tip that is coated. Standard gap is 0.8 and I will set them to 0.6mm as the boosted S54 guys are doing in the states and EU. Will give some feedback once they are in and car is running.
 

Andy1GP

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Pics of the old and hot burning stock plugs. They were at 0.9mm when I checked them

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New ones in :)

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sash

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Your fault finding astounds me..... well done Andy

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Andy1GP

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Mini update

Not sure if i posted this before but I want to make a larger cooler reservoir for the charge cooler. Thats not happened yet but I have solved the compressor surge issue.

Removed the hks blow off valve (no more choo choo noises) and fitted another Kayser bypass valve in its place. So now the system has 2 of them. One on the discharge pipe and one further down on the intake manifold.

Seeing as the car stood for a month while I was otherwise engaged I assumed the fuel would have degraded a little bit. My reason being is that the car started pinging slightly again. NF sorted that out though :) and I'll be driving the car for a bit now. It feels Mega compared to the NA ones.

It sounds NA now as well. Sleeper!

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Andy1GP

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Oh yes I forgot to mention that I also repaired the solenoid pack. No longer getting the vanos intake retard error when reading codes :joy:



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Crash_Nemesis

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Could have been that the spring on the HKS was set up for Turbo and Not supercharger. You need a softer spring for supercharger because of the difference in PSI delivered between the two types of compressors. The softer spring will allow the BOV to release sooner whilst the turbo hard spring will hold more pressure. If your BOV had a turbo spring, which is most probably did, it would of been the cause for it not releasing fast enough and thus building too much pressure in the intake which in turn ends up sending the air back towards the compressor.

Very well documented problem on M3forum with guys trying different style of BOVs on their supercharged e46's. The TialQ50 which I had was known for being too loud, so guys installed harder springs to lower to volume of the choo choo, but then started getting compressor surge.

Anyway, glad you got it sorted.
 

Andy1GP

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Yip that HKS is a tough cookie to crack open. It's such a lovely looking and sounding thing though. Pity it will no longer live in the engine bay. Going to rock the Sleeper look now :)
 

Crash_Nemesis

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Andy1GP@TheFanatics said:
Yip that HKS is a tough cookie to crack open. It's such a lovely looking and sounding thing though. Pity it will no longer live in the engine bay. Going to rock the Sleeper look now :)

Sleeper is always good Andy. The BOV on my car was way too loud and often scared off the competition :ninja:
 

Xack

Active member
Crash_Nemesis said:
Andy1GP@TheFanatics said:
Yip that HKS is a tough cookie to crack open. It's such a lovely looking and sounding thing though. Pity it will no longer live in the engine bay. Going to rock the Sleeper look now :)

Sleeper is always good Andy. The BOV on my car was way too loud and often scared off the competition :ninja:

:roflol: you guys,lol...sleeper supercharged //M3's....love it
 
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